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Eek! Saint George's Dragon wrote:
> Polychromic Dragon the Unparalleled Pugnacious Pusher of Virtue wrote:
>> Ashikaga wrote:
>>>Eek! Polychromic wrote:
>>><snip>
>>>> I don't put meat in the freezer usually. That whole freeze/thaw cycle
>>>> makes it nasty. Since I go to the store a few times anyhow, I just get
>
> I can honestly say that I can not tell the difference between frozen
> and unfrozen meat once I have cooked it. I tend to by lots of chicken
> and freeze most of it for later use (good deals).
I don't know whether it's the difference between the meat from two
countries, but Taiwanese chicken have more flavor and firmer. I think it
has something to do with how we inject hormones into our chicken and then
kill the chickens when they are still immature. But the point is, they
just don't taste the same!
My family also buy Costco chicken, which is a great deal when you buy in
bulks. I just don't like them as much as fresh ones from regular
supermarket.
>>>> what I need as I need it. Of course, if you live out in the country or
>>>> someplace where going to the store often is difficult, then you'd need to
>>>> freeze stuff.
>>>
>>>You know..., you are really lucky to have so much time on your hand to able
>>>to go to supermarket so often. Of course that's the most healthy way to
>>>eat. Many nutrition value is just lost during the deep freezing process.
>
> I have to question this idea. It may be true but I can not figure out
> how. Freezing should prevent chemical breakdown of nutrients not
> encourage any. Cooking does actually break down some of the nutrients
> and I would bet more than freezing does.
Actually I agree with that part. Overcook your meat does indeed kill tons
of nutrition. But most stores deep freeze them when transit, then let them
sit in warehouses, then deep freeze them again when it arrives in the
supermarket.... The fibre is just so destroyed when you finally get
them....
>>>When we were back in Taiwan, my mom would able to buy freshly butchered
>>>meat everyday. We can no longer afford such luxury here.
>
> It is hard to say but around where I live most supermarkets sell
> unforzen (but refrigerated) meat, I assume they did not freeze it and
> then defrost it at the supermarket.
I hope not.... But if you buy meat from Taiwan's traditional market (not
supermarket and such), what you get is freshly butchered meat from local
butcher houses and never was frozen. They only carry enough to be sold for
the day (and close their stands when things are sold out; leftovers usually
sold to restaurants or become ground meat). When you have high quality
food like that, people don't need to eat as much (and become fat...).
>> Well, which takes more time - 5 minutes to get some groceries or 8 minutes
>> defrosting meat at 30% power level in the microwave? I don't know why you
>> think it takes "so much time" to get groceries. I almost always get the
>> same stuff so I know where it is plus I tend to go when the store is empty
>> and do my own checkout at the self-help registers. It takes hardly any
>> time at all.
>
> Wow, self-help registers how do those work?
I don't know how it works around Zac's place, but in my area, there are
four registers at the end, facing each other sort of like gas station's
formation, that people can swipe their own barcode. There is usually an
attendant around for problems (like certain thing doesn't scan or check
your ID if you bought something alcoholic). Veggies and such that requires
weighing, you just have to find the veggie's name on the touch screen and
weigh it on the station. Then you can swipe your credit card or insert
cash like some vending machine (which I've never tried). It can be faster
than normal lines if you are a very good cashier (which I think I am now
trained)....
Home Depot around here also have those stations now....
> Personally, it takes me about about 20 minutes even under ideal
> conditions, because I have to get my bike out, ride over, lock my bike
> etc. (around 10 minutes both ways all told), find the stuff and deal
> with check out (at least 5 minutes under ideal contions).
For me, I also have to take a shower and groom myself. I can't go out in a
way that's unpresentable, or I'd feel miserable. I guess I am very Asian
that way.... You would never catch me going out in pajamas, like some
people around here would do....
> In practice it takes far longer because I have to procrastinate about
> doing it, figure out what I am out of, figure out what I want to buy,
> and get my backpack ready. Then when I am there I have to buy stuff I
> forgot to put on my list, pick up something on my list I forgot and
> then wait in long lines (I suspect the only time my local market is
> quite is about 3 am). Of course I have to shop at least twice a week to
> get all the food I need because of the limits of my comfortable
> carrying capacity. I could shop more but it is not worth the effort for
> me.
I think we are quite similar that way, except I drive instead of riding a
bike. I also plan ahead when I shop, and I just have to circling around
the store for some while just to make sure there is nothing forgotten or
stuff forgot to be put on the list is also acquired.
If I am going shopping for grocery on a special cooking mission, then I
would have to print out recipes from the Internet and stuff and start doing
scavenger hunt for hard to find ingredients (like sun-dried tomatoes...,
which is for some odd reason, not carried in regular supermarkets).... Of
course, that's an extreme case, but I find shopping for grocery can be a
chore... (depend on my expectation, of course).
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Ashikaga a27
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