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January 28, 2006 2:52:46 PM

I'm looking for a real good widescreen LCD display which supports resolutions equal to or greater than 1920x1200. Of course the best seems to be the 30' Apple Cinima Display. 'Course this is a bit pricey so I'm looking for the next best thing. I've found a SAMSUNG 244t display which looks good though I really can't find a review of it anywhere. Anyone have this monitor?

What other reconmendations would you make? What's the best value vs quality?

And what do most of you think of widescreen displays anyhow? They never seem as popular on PCs as I'd expect. I think the 5x4 and 4x3 ratios are outdated and widescreen is the way to go. Yet I see so many 5x4 or 4x3 ratio monitors still.
January 28, 2006 3:18:49 PM

The Dell 2405fpw is awesome. You can get it with coupons for around $900. It's been as low as $750 I think.
January 29, 2006 12:28:03 AM

I got a 2405FPW from Dell - 3yr warranty and no dead pixes for $899 right before xmas.
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January 30, 2006 2:08:15 AM

I'm very interested in the Dell 2405fpw monitor. I want to use it for a Tv as well as for computing. My only concern is for gaming and such, the 12ms response time has me a bit worried. I've only heard good things about this monitor and the response time doesn't seem to be an issue at all. Is that the experiance everyone who has the monitor is having? Or are they ANY ghosting at all? I'm almost thinking about getting the:

Acer AL2416wd (6ms response time)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E1682...

Thanks!
January 30, 2006 4:22:57 AM

I personally don't see any ghosting.
January 30, 2006 4:28:06 AM

I believe you, I just wanna be 100% on this before I put down the $ to buy it.
I'd imagine if there was ghosting the 50+ comments i've read on the thing would be there. Thanks for the info!
January 31, 2006 2:03:24 AM

I have not observed any ghosting either with games or movies.
Actually, monitor is fanphuckintastic ;) 
February 1, 2006 1:22:13 PM

I too have been searching for a good 24" LCD for while now and was thinking about the Dell ... then I read this about the SM244T which led me to this review. I have no idea why Toms never reviewed it in their latest widescreen LCD test since it seems to me to be the best on the market and fastest with a 6ms g2g .... and made by one of the market leaders - Samsung. It also supports HDCP (which Vista requires).

My intention is to hook it up to a PC for DVD's and gaming and to also hook in a Sky digibox (in HD when available) for TV viewing. Looks like it's worth the extra $ to me...
February 1, 2006 1:53:55 PM

What does everyone think about the Acer 24" widescreen? Is 6ms and just a little bit more than the dell.
February 2, 2006 2:45:27 PM

I too am torn between the Dell display and the Acer. From what I can gather, both are excellent displays. Right now they are evenly priced, so I can't use that as a final decision point. Anyone care to offer more input?

Fritz
February 2, 2006 3:10:05 PM

It is a tough choice with the Dell having some extra ports like s-video but the 12ms refresh is kinda bad, i'm sure its not that bad, but when you compare it to the acer having a refresh of 6ms...not a hard choice.
February 2, 2006 3:16:56 PM

6 ms ... mmmmm

Right now that does appear to be the major benefit of the Acer, especially since this is for a gaming rig. Though all the replies indicate no ghosting with the Dell.

Why do these deisions have to be so hard? :D 

Fritz
February 2, 2006 3:32:30 PM

I guess what it's going to come down to is this:

Dell2405FPW
12 ms response time
9in1 card reader
4 port usb
pixel patch .27mm
16.7 million colors (24-bit)
s-video/dvi/vga

$830
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Acer AL2416Wd
6 ms response time
pixel patch .27mm
16.7 million colors (24-bit)
dvi/vga

$876

I'm personally i'm leaning towards the acer because of the response time, but I do like the s-vide and the 4 port usb on the dell.
February 2, 2006 4:52:58 PM

the guy needing the monitor should also consider if he will need the connectivity of the dell, i would also remember with latency to add a few ms. the THG review of the dell said it had a specified response time of 20ms, however dells site says its 16 and the guy below says 12ms so take your pick. either way in the review it still fluctuates. in the review another acer also displayed a higher than specifed latency. judging by some reviews of both, the dell also has more position adjustments.

its a tough choice but i would advise you try to find a direct comparison between the two or bite the bullet and go with your gut.
February 2, 2006 6:30:29 PM

Ok, from everything I've read so far, it appears that a few people have seen very slight ghosting with the Dell, but these are by far very few and far-between. I love the fact that the Acer is a little faster, but the features of the Dell are just too good to pass up.

Dude, I'm getting a Dell.

Doh!

Fritz
February 2, 2006 7:29:57 PM

Do not think that you will regret it...
Also, has a USB hub and 9n1 card reader built into monitor.
February 2, 2006 7:35:51 PM

Exactly the features I was thinking of...can't wait to get it up and running on my new rig.

Fritz
February 2, 2006 11:49:09 PM

Quote:
I too have been searching for a good 24" LCD for while now and was thinking about the Dell ... then I read this about the SM244T which led me to this review. I have no idea why Toms never reviewed it in their latest widescreen LCD test since it seems to me to be the best on the market and fastest with a 6ms g2g .... and made by one of the market leaders - Samsung. It also supports HDCP (which Vista requires).

My intention is to hook it up to a PC for DVD's and gaming and to also hook in a Sky digibox (in HD when available) for TV viewing. Looks like it's worth the extra $ to me...


amazing monitor i just sold my dell dell2405fpw, simply the colour/response time was 2 superior, i recomend the 244T to anyone and everyone. also if u got extra cash i suggest u leave hd gaming to a hd tv like the sony qualia 005. god bless leds.
February 3, 2006 12:11:25 AM

Now when you say the color and refresh was too superior you mean the Samsung correct? I was looking into that monitor, but couldnt decide between the Dell and Samsung. Is the Samsung great for gaming?
February 3, 2006 1:59:02 AM

ya sry about that i meant the samsung sm244t. it has lil no ghosting and no dragging.now the refresh rate is still 60hz. just that the response gtg is 6 real great for gamming and pretty good for movies (i mainly use my hdtv for movies). and i plan on gettign a sony qualia 005 for around 10k-20k gotta love a 1080p led hdtv http://www.qualia.sony.us/qualia_main.cgi but again gaming isnt really fun on 1920*1200 as u cant have all the bells and wistles on with that res even with the most powerful consumer based computer (based upon my fav games cs:s/bf2) but none the less playing on a monitor that's 22"s+ regardless of ur game settings is still a great view. like i tell everyone ignore but take into count peoples opinions and reviews but still check out the monitor for urself cause ur eyes might like a sony or acer over a samsung or u might want a viewsonic, heck u might just hate all lcds decide to stick with a crt and wait for led lcds; numbers dont mean everything, its really a personal choice but whatever the decision im sure u'll be happy with the monitor just make sure where ever u buy it that theres a good return policy ^_^. also keep in mind no lcd is perfect!
February 3, 2006 2:12:41 AM

I play at full res at max quality... and seems very fluid like to me...
Of course, I have a X1800XT and a Opteron 175 that assists a bit.
Enough to get 4580 in 3Dmark06
February 3, 2006 2:21:04 AM

the crosshair (expand and closing) in css is proportional to ur fps below 60fps (constant) will result in a crosshair thta doesnt close fast enough to my liking. also i turn off aa and use 2xaf plus i cant use a number of console commands which make the game look better, its still smooth but i'd like a faster crosshair that 1280*1024 res perforamnce used to give me. but i cant wait till faster cpu's and gpu's come out that can really start to push games into high hd res with good constant fps's.
February 3, 2006 2:25:01 AM

What video card and processer are you running?
February 3, 2006 2:39:38 AM

1 bfg 7800gtx(256)
amd fx-55 (not oc'd)
asus a8n-sli
2gigs corsair twin x3500llpro

not the best comp but i first was gaming on a 17" monitor than went up lol. i plan on updating around 2007, and since i dotn want to void my cpu's warantee i dont plan on ocing it.
February 3, 2006 3:19:39 AM

Should do pretty well then on the 3D grafix...
February 3, 2006 10:24:46 PM

Quote:
I play at full res at max quality... and seems very fluid like to me...
Of course, I have a X1800XT and a Opteron 175 that assists a bit.
Enough to get 4580 in 3Dmark06


1920 x 1200 at full res with a single X1800XT? I'm feeling better and better about playing Oblivion with all the candy when I get my rig built :D 

For those who want to know

Upgrading from a Asus CUSL-2, PIII 800, 512 MB PC100 cas2, Ti4200, 17" Sony 200ES

Asus A8N32-SLI
AMD Athlon X2 4400+
2 x 1 GB Corsair XMS 3500LL Pro
2 x EVGA 7800GTX 256-P2-N529
Dell 2405 FPW

BTW I am hoping for a MASSIVE dfifference...

Fritz
February 5, 2006 12:33:58 AM

I run my 2405 with Battlefield 2 at native res with all eye candy (but I haven't tried with max AA yet) and it is smooth. I haven't bought FEAR yet, but I want to see how well my system will be able to run it at 1920x1200.

My specs:
AMD X2 4800+
Asus A8N-SLI Premium
2GB OCZ (2 x 1024MB) PC4000 Gold
2 x Asus GF7800GTX T.O.P. (in SLI)
2 x WD SATA 300GB (in RAID 0)


Now if I can just find the time to devote to a new game like FEAR... all of my free time is spent playing BF2. :D 
February 6, 2006 4:43:30 AM

Quote:
Do not think that you will regret it...
Also, has a USB hub and 9n1 card reader built into monitor.


Portrait mode, PIP, and S-video/VGA/DVI connectors.
February 6, 2006 4:58:16 AM

Hey DustinG-

Did you ever find any info on that Samsung or decide on a monitor?

Fritz
February 8, 2006 1:37:34 AM

It just arrived...all I can say is wow. Still waiting on my 2nd hard drive then It'll be done. I am NOT looking foreward to cleaning everything off my old rig and setting this one up with said software. Ah well, that's how it goes. I'll let you know how it all turns out.

Fritz
February 8, 2006 2:28:04 AM

It's pretty overwhelming. I actually went from a 19" CRT (so 17" viewable) to a 20.1" 2005fpw which was a big difference. Then a few weeks later I went to the 24" 2405fpw and that was a big difference too.

So depending on what you upgraded from you might have had a huge shock. :D 

BTW,

Does anyone know how to clean these things safely? I have a small smudge of spit or something on the screen and don't want to mess it up.
February 8, 2006 8:56:05 AM

dhluck not quite sure but you do get proper lcd cleaning stuff, wipes, fluids
etc. you can use water which i did on my laptop screen, just be sure to use a lint free cloth. its gotta be pretty smooth otherwise you get streaks.
perhps you could check dells website see if they have any advice
February 9, 2006 2:16:16 PM

I've got this spray bottle of "Monitor Cleaning Solution" comes with a microfiber cloth. Thats probably what you need. I dont know what kind of solution it is but I would think that water or alchohol would be ok. I wouldnt try alchohol on my monitor though. If you could find a bottle of that stuff somewhere that would be ideal.
February 9, 2006 4:14:11 PM

Well I ordered my computer, I went ahead and splurged!

Asus A8n5x NF4 939 socket mobo
AMD 64 3700+ 939 socket San Diego Core (1mb l2 cache)
2x1gb Corsair XMS (2gb kit)
Saphire x1900xt 512 mb video card
Cooler Master Centurion 5 case (tooless bays)
Aspire 500w power supply

I think i'll be good for a while now, lol. Thanks for making the descion on the video card easy! I can't wait!!
February 10, 2006 12:54:23 AM

Did you decide upon a monitor?

Fritz
February 10, 2006 12:56:36 AM

Opps, I replied to the wrong post. I had to decide between a new monitor or a major computer upgrade and upgraded my computer instead. My 21" silicon graphics monitor isn't horrible at all!
February 10, 2006 12:59:55 AM

Heh, very good choice, now you can start saving the cash for the monitor, whilst enjoying the new computer.

Fritz
February 10, 2006 1:06:14 AM

Thanks, you enjoy that new monitor of yours!
February 11, 2006 10:25:30 PM

No dead pixels!!!! NONE

I'm so happy about that. Anywho I know I have seen some ppl post about optimizing the settings of this display. I just cant seem to find the right thread right now. Any owners have some suggestions for me?

Fritz
April 9, 2006 9:38:05 AM

Just a question for Dell 2405 owners...


How well does the dell handle scaled down resolutions such as (1280x800)?

I've ordered the 2405 but I am on the fence on whether I need to upgrade my Geforce 6600GT to a 7800GS/7800GT or just play games at a lower res... (just a casual gamer here)

Any info on this?

Thanks.
April 9, 2006 2:06:45 PM

depends on your eyes. you might find it looks terrible but i find things look ok. in saying that the only 4:3 format i use is 16x10. what sort of games do you play, if its fps ill try out cs:s and tell you how it is.
April 9, 2006 3:11:53 PM

I play fps games like Doom, Rainbow Six Lockdown, HL2

I also play warcraft 3, star wars empire at war..

Please do let me know how CS:S goes.

Thanks a bunch.
April 9, 2006 3:55:02 PM

just tried HL2. IMO as long as you setup your gfx card settings right and also the monitor settings it looks fine. it obviously looks better at native but when your moving about you probably won't notice a difference . as with any game lowering AA and AF produces the worst results so if you can keep those pretty high it should be fine. just play around with different aspects like 16:10 or 4:3 and see what fits best. 1080 x 768 looked pretty good.

trust me on one thing. even if you just use this monitor for surfing you won't be able to go back to a small low-res screen again.
April 9, 2006 4:06:18 PM

Sounds good...

Will try it once I get my monitor... I can't wait :) 
April 9, 2006 10:39:34 PM

I haven't tried any lower resolutions yet as I haven't really needed to. Now, I will say that even with two 7800GTX in SLI I still get some pretty low framerates in Oblivion. I have yet to really try tweaking Oblivion to get the performance up, out of a sheer lack of time.

Fritz
November 9, 2008 1:51:50 PM

Without a doubt, the best 24" flat panel display is the LaCie 324.

It is used by artists, photographers, game designers, video editors, etc..

Ask virtually any true professional and they will agree with this statement.

LaCie monitors are not inexpensive though.

So if you are on a tight budget and need a cheap monitor, this one's not for you.
November 9, 2008 9:04:53 PM

CHECK THE DATES before you post! seriously, this thread is more than 2.5 years old.
December 30, 2010 6:58:05 AM

Hey there... did u have any luck finding the LED at 1920x1200? I found one in asia in that resolution at 24" !!! Their 27" is a whopping 2560x1440... basically the same thing as the Apple displays, but got PC's... looked awesome... USA is so slow to get these cool electronics, like TV's and phones as well.
September 22, 2011 4:16:00 PM

tit4tat said:
Without a doubt, the best 24" flat panel display is the LaCie 324.

It is used by artists, photographers, game designers, video editors, etc..

Ask virtually any true professional and they will agree with this statement.

LaCie monitors are not inexpensive though.

So if you are on a tight budget and need a cheap monitor, this one's not for you.


Even this expensive Lacie 324i supports 1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz:
http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10524

Is there any LCD monitor running that high resolution but at 75 Hz of vertical refresh?
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