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Anonymous
June 20, 2005 2:19:19 PM

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Situation: Lab environment with multiple XP computers. Users logon to
various workstations all the time with their own user account and over time
this creates many profiles on each of the lab computers which fills up hard
drive space and causes the anti-virus scan to take longer.

Any ideas on what the best way to manage this situation?

Thanks.
Anonymous
June 20, 2005 2:19:20 PM

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Try a google search for Roaming Profiles. I'm not familiar with it, but from
what I've read it's either a boon or a bane to sysadmin's.

"jaycee" wrote:

> Situation: Lab environment with multiple XP computers. Users logon to
> various workstations all the time with their own user account and over time
> this creates many profiles on each of the lab computers which fills up hard
> drive space and causes the anti-virus scan to take longer.
>
> Any ideas on what the best way to manage this situation?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
Anonymous
June 20, 2005 7:52:45 PM

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To use roaming profiles, the computers in the lab have to be on a
Domain. If they are on a workgroup, roaming profiles won't work.

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:04:03 -0700, usasma
<usasma@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

>Try a google search for Roaming Profiles. I'm not familiar with it, but from
>what I've read it's either a boon or a bane to sysadmin's.
>
>"jaycee" wrote:
>
>> Situation: Lab environment with multiple XP computers. Users logon to
>> various workstations all the time with their own user account and over time
>> this creates many profiles on each of the lab computers which fills up hard
>> drive space and causes the anti-virus scan to take longer.
>>
>> Any ideas on what the best way to manage this situation?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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Anonymous
June 21, 2005 12:24:23 PM

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I'm not sure one does need a domain. I've only had domain or stand alone computers to test on Roaming profiles work on a standalone computer (if you want to move the user profile folder you make it roaming as one way).

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"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:vi7eb1lrl6gk6jpi0vtro9g6kp9qe0kbti@4ax.com...
> To use roaming profiles, the computers in the lab have to be on a
> Domain. If they are on a workgroup, roaming profiles won't work.
>
> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:04:03 -0700, usasma
> <usasma@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>>Try a google search for Roaming Profiles. I'm not familiar with it, but from
>>what I've read it's either a boon or a bane to sysadmin's.
>>
>>"jaycee" wrote:
>>
>>> Situation: Lab environment with multiple XP computers. Users logon to
>>> various workstations all the time with their own user account and over time
>>> this creates many profiles on each of the lab computers which fills up hard
>>> drive space and causes the anti-virus scan to take longer.
>>>
>>> Any ideas on what the best way to manage this situation?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 12:13:42 AM

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Moving the user profile from computer to computer doesn't make it a
Roaming profile. A true Roaming profile follows you automatically no
matter what computer you log onto. This is only possible if you are
using a Server. OK, the server may not need to be a domain controller
but a workgroup server. I'm not sure about whether this will work in
a non-domain environment, but I AM sure you need a server to host the
roaming profile.

On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:24:23 +1000, "David Candy" <.> wrote:

>'m not sure one does need a domain. I've only had domain or stand alone computers to test on Roaming profiles work on a standalone computer (if you want to move the user profile folder you make it roaming as one way).
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>"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:vi7eb1lrl6gk6jpi0vtro9g6kp9qe0kbti@4ax.com...
>> To use roaming profiles, the computers in the lab have to be on a
>> Domain. If they are on a workgroup, roaming profiles won't work.
>>
>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:04:03 -0700, usasma
>> <usasma@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Try a google search for Roaming Profiles. I'm not familiar with it, but from
>>>what I've read it's either a boon or a bane to sysadmin's.
>>>
>>>"jaycee" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Situation: Lab environment with multiple XP computers. Users logon to
>>>> various workstations all the time with their own user account and over time
>>>> this creates many profiles on each of the lab computers which fills up hard
>>>> drive space and causes the anti-virus scan to take longer.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas on what the best way to manage this situation?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 2:22:14 PM

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None the less I have a roaming profile on my standalone computer. It requires 1 registry entry to change it to one.

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"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:D 6bhb15iv0n5v2uecikhscf6l5si6523ke@4ax.com...
> Moving the user profile from computer to computer doesn't make it a
> Roaming profile. A true Roaming profile follows you automatically no
> matter what computer you log onto. This is only possible if you are
> using a Server. OK, the server may not need to be a domain controller
> but a workgroup server. I'm not sure about whether this will work in
> a non-domain environment, but I AM sure you need a server to host the
> roaming profile.
>
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2005 08:24:23 +1000, "David Candy" <.> wrote:
>
>>'m not sure one does need a domain. I've only had domain or stand alone computers to test on Roaming profiles work on a standalone computer (if you want to move the user profile folder you make it roaming as one way).
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>>"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:vi7eb1lrl6gk6jpi0vtro9g6kp9qe0kbti@4ax.com...
>>> To use roaming profiles, the computers in the lab have to be on a
>>> Domain. If they are on a workgroup, roaming profiles won't work.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:04:03 -0700, usasma
>>> <usasma@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Try a google search for Roaming Profiles. I'm not familiar with it, but from
>>>>what I've read it's either a boon or a bane to sysadmin's.
>>>>
>>>>"jaycee" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Situation: Lab environment with multiple XP computers. Users logon to
>>>>> various workstations all the time with their own user account and over time
>>>>> this creates many profiles on each of the lab computers which fills up hard
>>>>> drive space and causes the anti-virus scan to take longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas on what the best way to manage this situation?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>
>
Anonymous
June 22, 2005 10:50:22 PM

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On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:22:14 +1000, "David Candy" <.> wrote:

>None the less I have a roaming profile on my standalone computer. It requires 1 registry entry to change it to one.

How can a roaming profile exist on ONE standalone computer? If it is
on ONE computer, how can it roam?
Anonymous
June 23, 2005 3:53:32 AM

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On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:19:19 -0400, "jaycee"
<jaycee131973@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Situation: Lab environment with multiple XP computers. Users logon to
>various workstations all the time with their own user account and over time
>this creates many profiles on each of the lab computers which fills up hard
>drive space and causes the anti-virus scan to take longer.

>Any ideas on what the best way to manage this situation?

That is SSSUUUUCH a good question!

The hassle of managing multiple user accounts is such a pig (having to
log into each one to apply settings or scan for malware) that I don't
use user accounts. If I have to effectively work on "3 computers"
(the same PC 3 times) because each person wants a different wallpaper,
I tend to bill accordingly.

It may be theoretically possible to work on all accounts from a single
login that has admin rights, but I'm not sure that all user hives show
up in Regedit (Roaming profiles? Profile on server? Don't know the
account password?).

It may also be theoretically possible to do something particularly
crucial: Set up the Default User account (which cannot be logged into)
from which new accounts are spawned. Without this ability, every time
some jerk spawns a new account, all settinfs duhfault back to MS and
you have to set the whole mess up again.

Things to control:
- data locations (e.g. get all the "My,.." ghettos off C:) 
- absurdly bloated IE web cache (1G per account? Sheesh!)
- UI, such as not hiding file name extensions etc.
- risks, such as NoDriveTypeAutoRun = 91 (!) -> 9D

OTOH, if you have users spawning their own accounts, then you've
relinquished a high degree of control. An unbounded set of folks with
admin rights? Welcome to the malware fest.

MS keeps bleating "don't run as admin", while the most trivial
kiddieware won't run as anything else, but even if "new" apps "written
for XP" actually worked as non-admin, multiple user accounts are such
a PITA in present form that I can't use them.

What MS is really saying is "give up trying to control the PC and
trust our defaults and our user account limit system". No thanks,
don't let the door kick your ass on the way out.




>-- Risk Management is the clue that asks:
"Why do I keep open buckets of petrol next to all the
ashtrays in the lounge, when I don't even have a car?"
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Anonymous
June 23, 2005 1:31:55 PM

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Because it's taking the profile from where I said, caching it in the normal place, and saving it back just like a roaming profile.

Instead of arguing from how you think things work tru it.

Create an account, edit
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList\<your user SID>
CentralProfile=d:\testprofile

Look in Start - Control Panel - System - Advanced - User Profile Settings

It's a roaming profile. If you logon to it it copies it from d:\testprofile to C:\Documents And Settings\<user name> and on logoff it copies the profile back.
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"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message news:vnqjb1df2bgoj651p1ohbchobt15fip4jn@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2005 10:22:14 +1000, "David Candy" <.> wrote:
>
>>None the less I have a roaming profile on my standalone computer. It requires 1 registry entry to change it to one.
>
> How can a roaming profile exist on ONE standalone computer? If it is
> on ONE computer, how can it roam?
>
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