buy from sager or xoticpc?

The only reason that the xotic systems are cheaper is that they are trying to steal business away from the main company.

The full story is that xotic is just a reseller, all they do is forward your order to Sager and then slap their name on it. They never really touch your system. So in other words, they are a middle man. You are getting the EXACT same system from Sager that you are from Xotic.

Personally, I just paid the extra $100 dollars that Sager wanted over Xotic and ordered right from the source. The only issue I had happened during a shortage in 7950GTX cards. Got my laptop before college started and all was good.

Yeah, it's straight from Sager, from what I understand. As for the SP3 thing, try asking Sager themselves, through email or something, maybe they can arrange for SP3 to be installed for you.

http://www.sagernotebook.com/infor [...] ation_id=5

sp3 is completely clean right, no bugs or anything? cause if it is ill just order from xotic and save a little money

If u are in US,they will have an discount too(for stundents and militaries)

also, screen res at 1900 too high?

^I agree with Maz. The 1920x1200 res is amazing. It's full HD so if you buy a blu-ray player down the road you are all set. Be careful though, because you will be spoiled for life. I can hardly stand to look at my 17'' 1280x1024 monitor for my desktop

I got my sager in less than a week, from order to arrival.

I also agree with the screen resolution thing...even after a few hours of looking at 1920x1200, if you look at a lower resolution screen, you'll think you've jumped back to windows 98.

Why do you not want to get Vista? I know there's a lot of bad publicity about it...but really, I haven't ever had a problem with it. The one bone i have to pick with it is the way the network and sharing center is organized -- I just hate it. It takes me 5 or 6 clicks and pages to go through the same thing I could do in XP with just 1 or 2.

It is a pre-order, the system hasn't been fully released. According to Donald from Power Notebooks, Sager estimates to have these shipping by early August (as late as the 18th). It'll also depend on how far down the list you are.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sh [...] count=2913

I believe the vista gaming horror stories to be myth. I've gamed on vista for a good long time now, and it's rock solid. Never crashed, never slow, nothing to complain about. Tom's uses vista to bench all of their games, if it makes you feel better. Honestly, the "Vista is horrible!" stories going around really aren't all that true. It's not perfect, but it's way not that bad, either.

Ubuntu is a great OS. It's amazing that they can do it all for free you know?

For surfing the internet and especially for downloading stuff Ubuntu is great. That way the pesky viri (which are geared almost exclusively to Windows) can be caught and blown out without risk. You're also talking about XP, but I want to mention my catch phrase, "Vista is like the Crysis of O.S.'s" it's ridiculous how much overhead this thing takes up!