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Hi Maziar! Is your laptop working fine?

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August 15, 2008 12:56:16 PM

Hi Maziar! How's your laptop doing?Checked out a couple of indian sites and lots of people are having problems with 8600 and 8400 graphic cards on dell laptops.Dell is not offering any solution except a bios update which increases the fan speed and thus
ineffect delays the inevitable death until the warranty runs out.
There's no word on whether fresh orders have the problem sorted
at the hardware level.Maybe Tom's Hardware should ask Dell what
solutions they are offering.Me and 4 more friends will not be
buying xps1730s cause of dell's attitude to its existing customers.
What a shame, I read your xps review and was very keen on getting myself one and now this.

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a c 244 D Laptop
August 15, 2008 1:49:48 PM

Hello mate :) 

Well today i found what is the problem:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/page-253569_15_50.h...

Guys i found what is the problem
I was playing COD4 and suddenly the color of almots everything,for example the doors went black,grass went yellow....

Its MY GPU,I HAVE A FAULTY GPU!!!!


I payed $3200 for it and i got help from my family,it was hard for me to buy it and only few days it was fine and now this happend :( 
August 15, 2008 2:35:55 PM

Really sorry 4 u pal.I won't buy xps .Gonna go in for assembled pc.
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a b D Laptop
August 15, 2008 2:50:31 PM

maverick25 said:
Really sorry 4 u pal.I won't buy xps .Gonna go in for assembled pc.


Don't blame it on Dell, it's NVidia's fault though they won't own up to it.
a c 244 D Laptop
August 15, 2008 3:02:58 PM

You may want to look @ SAGER NP9262
August 15, 2008 3:10:50 PM

To Maziar- Sager not available in India

To Lostandwondering- If I buy a brand new ford car and the airconditioning is faulty, Ford can't say take the car to the ac component
manufacturer. Lost faith in dell.
a b D Laptop
August 15, 2008 3:52:08 PM

maverick25 said:
To Maziar- Sager not available in India

To Lostandwondering- If I buy a brand new ford car and the airconditioning is faulty, Ford can't say take the car to the ac component
manufacturer. Lost faith in dell.


Maz's problem is not that Dell isn't honoring the warranty or isn't willing to replace the defective product, it's that the unit he bought wasn't sold in Iran so he went out of country to get it. If he wants an warranty work done on it he has to send it back to the UK. Dell is not the only company having issues with their cards, this is something that is plaguing a wide range of cards come from a multitude of companies.
August 15, 2008 3:55:31 PM

so am i screwed since i just bought a sager with an nvidia graphics card?
August 15, 2008 4:18:47 PM

To Lostandwondering-
No offence pal,its just that Dell's attitude is bad-Instead of acknowledging
the problem they offer bios updates which just increase the fan speed and delays the unevitable death.This covers them until the warranty runs out and then they charge u for repairs.Thats not fair,if a part is faulty is u replace.PERIOD.Furthermore all nvidia gpus are faulty including 8800s which Maziar has got and not just 8400,8700 and 8600 which dell wants u to believe.Its just that a minority has has 8800.Dell should atleast tell its customers(including pottential would be) that no defective gpus would be supplied.Me and my friends were planning to buy xps1730 after reading Mazier's review.Infact I told them about xps1730 and they agreed.They would have probablly killed me if their brand new $4000 laptop went up in smoke.Believe me I was a big fan of Dell and and I thought my first laptop should be Dell's best. But now no way.
a c 244 D Laptop
August 15, 2008 4:48:08 PM

No,NVIDIA said that 8400 and 8600 models are faulty not 8800MGTX.

Also www.xoticpc.com ships world wide so u may want to look @ NP9262 in thei site.
August 15, 2008 4:58:19 PM

Thanks Maziar, but if sager conks off then what
a c 244 D Laptop
August 15, 2008 5:32:50 PM

U will send it back to XOTICPC,they have a great customer support.
a b D Laptop
August 15, 2008 7:10:46 PM

maverick25 said:
To Lostandwondering-
No offence pal,its just that Dell's attitude is bad-Instead of acknowledging
the problem they offer bios updates which just increase the fan speed and delays the unevitable death.This covers them until the warranty runs out and then they charge u for repairs.Thats not fair,if a part is faulty is u replace.PERIOD.Furthermore all nvidia gpus are faulty including 8800s which Maziar has got and not just 8400,8700 and 8600 which dell wants u to believe.Its just that a minority has has 8800.Dell should atleast tell its customers(including pottential would be) that no defective gpus would be supplied.Me and my friends were planning to buy xps1730 after reading Mazier's review.Infact I told them about xps1730 and they agreed.They would have probablly killed me if their brand new $4000 laptop went up in smoke.Believe me I was a big fan of Dell and and I thought my first laptop should be Dell's best. But now no way.


Actually, I'm the one apologizing now. I hadn't read all of the stuff that Dell had put out about the GPU issue. I did not realize that the BIOS update only changed the fan speeds. That does indeed suck.
August 15, 2008 8:53:04 PM

To- ihateibuypower-
Depends on which card u bought from sager and when did u buy your laptop.If u have a 9800 u may get lucky.In anycase contact sager.By the way any heating problems/fan goes on overdrive?
To- lostandwondering- no need to appologise pal,we r here to discuss our
experiences and help each other.Let's hope Maziar's laptop comes back in top condition after repairs from UK.
a b D Laptop
August 15, 2008 10:09:20 PM

Sager notebooks are actually just rebranded Clevo models. If you can find a Clevo reseller near you, then you'll be getting the same hardware, just not the support of said company. I highly recommend Clevo's notebooks, they're built very well, and have excellent cooling capabilities. I have a Sager NP5793, aka the Clevo M570-RU. It has an 8800m GTX and it's still kicking strong after several months of use. It can handle anything. I made a review on the notebook, it's in the forum someplace...

Here she is!

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/50535-35-sager-np5793-review
August 16, 2008 1:39:11 AM

well i just bought the laptop from xoticpc. the np8660 which uses the 9800GPU. its on back order though cause the WUXGA screens havent arrived yet and wont until the end of august :( . in any case i hope i get lucky. also sent my M1330 back to dell in Texas for complete repair/replacement. everything was wrong with it i dont even get it. Anyways, im expecting great things from the sager.
August 16, 2008 3:17:42 AM

Ugh, I feel for you Maziar, that's terrible. Damn... I don't suppose you can convince Dell to pay for your shipping right? I can't remember what their warranty is.
August 16, 2008 3:30:14 AM

i hate dell. period. i wish i could change my name to be ihateibuypowerANDdell. would sum up my life
August 16, 2008 4:13:58 AM

Is there an account somewhere on the forums of why you hate IBuyPower? :p 
a c 244 D Laptop
August 16, 2008 6:37:03 AM

theworminator said:
Ugh, I feel for you Maziar, that's terrible. Damn... I don't suppose you can convince Dell to pay for your shipping right? I can't remember what their warranty is.


Thanks mate
Convince dell to pay for my shipping? my uncle got it from UK store and when he came to IRAN he gave it to me
August 16, 2008 9:40:59 AM

To- Ihateibuypower- good thing your order is delayed,u can check out with sager.
To Maziar- u spent so much money so no harm in spending a little more in
sending the laptop back to england.Worse comes to worst u will pay for shipment thats all.Add it to your laptop purchase cost.That way amount spent on laptop won't be a total loss.
To- frozenlead- thanks a ton for your help pal but clevo is not available here and moreover if I order from America ,it would be very expensive.I have decided to go for a new desktop and will check out dell in a couple of months.
a c 244 D Laptop
August 16, 2008 10:28:39 AM

No,because the shipping costs alot and also it takes alot of time,(i sent a GPU before and it tooks about 1month till i received it) also it may have problems again,
I have put my laptop in a sale-site,i have to sell the laptop i always dreamed of having :( 
August 16, 2008 2:13:08 PM

Thats sad, Really feel for u.I am planning a new desktop and will only have
a look at dell xps1730 once they get a new config.-hopefully ati mobility cards.By the way what do u think of them?And should I go for a ps3 instead
of a new desktop.And suggest a new desktopcard.
a c 244 D Laptop
August 16, 2008 4:10:28 PM


Thanks mate :) 

Well if i can sell this laptop i may go for OS X LEOPARD,because really aside from gaming,its better,its safer,more easier to use,less errors and... and may get a XBOX360 for gaming.Because PC gaming isnt really what it was before,titles are more for consoles than PC

Or i may build a new desktop but this happens if i can get a 24" monitor which i dont think i can

But as i said first this laptop must be sold then i can think of what to do next
August 16, 2008 4:16:53 PM

worminator,
to people considering buying ibuypowers i have expressed my opinions :D . basically, terrible experience with them and all of my friends have had terrible experiences with them. well, one friend, with multiple ibuypowers for the family. very long list of complaints, dont feel like explaining right now haha
August 16, 2008 4:17:45 PM

oh and maziar, you can keep a PC and put OSX on it if you want to do that. OSX would be much faster and you would be able to game on it too
a c 244 D Laptop
August 16, 2008 7:19:42 PM

Building a "Hackintosh" isnt easy and also it wont be as good as original.

Also i think u are wrong,u say i can play WINDOWS GAMES on LEOPARD?
August 16, 2008 8:27:20 PM

no haha i was under the impression you were partitioning your hard drive for windows and OS X :D 
August 17, 2008 3:48:09 AM

Hahah, I've heard some stories of IBP that aren't so pretty too. :p 

And talking about Hackintosh, my room mate tried to install OSX Leopard on his HP laptop, and ended up messing it up pretty bad, because OSX didn't have the drivers for most of his system components, and for some reason his machine refused to recognize the Windows partition after, so he couldn't even use the dual boot to save himself. *laughs*
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