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cow_moo   09-06-2008 at 02:07:14 AM

I have 2 friend that are both concerend about their notebooks video card for their new laptops (both HP)

Question 1: Which is better the 8600M GT OR THE 9600M GT

Question 2: which is better the HD 3200 or the GO 7150 and could they play oblivion



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Bronze Laptops badge frozenlead   09-06-2008 at 03:33:57 AM
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the 9600m GT is marginally better performing than the 8600m GT.

The HD 3200 is better. I'm doubtful the 7150 could spit out oblivion, but the 3200 can't do a whole lot better. It'll be really low, if anything.

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cow_moo   09-06-2008 at 05:17:58 AM
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ok what about the HD3400

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Bronze Laptops badge lostandwandering   09-06-2008 at 05:51:02 AM
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Would fall between the 8600 and the HD 3200.

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cow_moo   09-06-2008 at 04:44:40 PM
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my price range is up to 750$ USD for my second friend. So I need a video card that at least can play oblivion on low at decent framerates. I found a toshiba for 750 that had a X1250 mobility and a AMD Turion Zm 70. Any suggestions

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cow_moo   09-06-2008 at 05:07:57 PM
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also what about the ATI mobiliy X3100 and the mobility 3100 or the mobility X1250

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Bronze Laptops badge lostandwandering   09-06-2008 at 07:16:45 PM
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Hrm..... Integrated solutions like the X3100 or the X1250 are most likely not going to play Oblivion at anything that would be enjoyable. The $750 price range is a tough sector for people looking for systems that can play some games.

------------------------------ LAPTOP: Sager NP5760|T7200|2gb DDR2-667| 100gb 7200rpm HDD| 512mb 7950GTX|17'' WUXGA

Desktop: Core2 E7200 | Corsair 2gb DDR2-800 | Gigabyte EP35-DS3L | 250gb Seagate Barracuda | MSI GTX260 (192 SP) | Corsair VX550 | Antec 300 case
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cow_moo   09-06-2008 at 08:21:45 PM
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so the 3400 is my best bet?

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Bronze Laptops badge frozenlead   09-06-2008 at 10:34:30 PM
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If you want to play games, I suggest you save up some cash. $750 isn't going to buy you anything you'll be happy with.

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Bronze Laptops badge lostandwandering   09-06-2008 at 11:03:49 PM
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cow_moo wrote :

so the 3400 is my best bet?



It would certainly be better than an integrated solution, but it's still a low end dedicated card. It may be able to cope with Oblivion, but at low res and ow settings. Ideally, you'd want to get either an 8600m GT or HD2600 or 3650 if you want to play games decently.

------------------------------ LAPTOP: Sager NP5760|T7200|2gb DDR2-667| 100gb 7200rpm HDD| 512mb 7950GTX|17'' WUXGA

Desktop: Core2 E7200 | Corsair 2gb DDR2-800 | Gigabyte EP35-DS3L | 250gb Seagate Barracuda | MSI GTX260 (192 SP) | Corsair VX550 | Antec 300 case
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cow_moo   09-07-2008 at 08:24:00 PM
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I know that but it's not possible with the budget

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Bronze Laptops badge frozenlead   09-07-2008 at 10:37:54 PM
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That's why I say you wait a while and get some more money. A midrange card will make you much happier with your buy.

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cow_moo   09-07-2008 at 10:43:23 PM
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that means another year without a computer for him

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TheGreatGrapeApe   09-08-2008 at 09:27:49 AM
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Really anything below an HD2600/GF8600M you should then get a capable 2D intergrated and then a console.

An HD3400 will do in a pinch, but really it's going to be weak in many areas.

My HD2600 is fine for older games and ok for newer games on lower settings, but it's over a year old, if I were buying now it (or the euivalent GF8600) would be the minimum, anything less, save money get a 780/790G solution or something similar (GF8200) and then use the savings on a cheap console IMO.

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cow_moo   09-09-2008 at 12:51:41 AM
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also what about the Mobility 3450 playing oblivion on low to med settings

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Bronze Laptops badge frozenlead   09-09-2008 at 01:38:58 AM
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It won't do much better than the HD 3400. Maybe 5fps difference. 10 if you're lucky. Low settings only.

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TheGreatGrapeApe   09-09-2008 at 01:39:58 AM
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The 3450 will be fine at low to medium settings, but it still does depend on resolution. You have to tweak to find the best fit.

Sure you could run at 1280x800 or 1440x900 with grass turned off and everything turned down low, but is that really a good Oblivion experience?

IMO it will depend on the resolution you are targeting and for such a card I would say target something that is a 4:1 ratio scaling resolution, it keeps your image fairly crisp without interpolation yet allows you good performance while keeping features enabled.

So for 1280x800 that would be 640x400 and 1440x900 is 720x450, you need to tweak the ini file for some of the resolutions, but that's how I tend to play stressful games if the card won't handle native resolution with the settings I prefer. Crysis is the one I have to play at 720x450 when enabling all DX10 features.

For native resolution at medium settings you will need at least the HD3650, and even then it will be tough in Oblivion for anything above 1280x800 IMO.


Message edited by TheGreatGrapeApe on 09-09-2008 at 01:41:45 AM
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cow_moo   09-09-2008 at 05:21:52 AM
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still that 5 fps can make a big difference

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cow_moo   09-09-2008 at 06:27:12 AM
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also what does quid pro queo mean

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cow_moo   09-09-2008 at 03:38:30 PM
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thanks for all your help guys

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Bronze Laptops badge frozenlead   09-09-2008 at 04:48:04 PM
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quid pro quo is latin for "this for that", referencing your tradeoff in performance for price.

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cow_moo   10-21-2008 at 10:22:27 PM
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What about the GeForce 8200 Plz give me a link of benchies of HD3200 vs GeForce 8200

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Bronze Laptops badge frozenlead   10-21-2008 at 10:26:04 PM
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you can compare almost every mobile card you've ever dreamed of here.

 

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobil [...] 844.0.html

 

the list places the HD3200 above the 8200, but the margin between them probably isn't great.


Message edited by frozenlead on 10-21-2008 at 10:27:20 PM
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