Hi all,
I am planning to build myself a system in the next 4 weeks. I need to choose some RAM, I plan to have a system with: A64 3200+ & ATI Raedon 9800.
I know I want at least 1GB of RAM, however I am confused as to a few things:
1) What is ECC memory? Is it compatible with my system? If so, would purchasing it offer any significant increases in performance?
2) What is Dual band memory? The same question as I have for ECC.
3) What are CL2, Cl3 representative of? (Does "Level 1" I have often seem represent CL1?)
4) What are these number combinations I keep reading, 2-2-2-6 and so on? Can somebody explain them to me please.
5) Is my system compatible with all DDR types? (400-550)?
6) Which type should I purchase?
7) All these comapnies, the likes of the often recommend Corsair, Kingston and so on seem to be extremely pricey. Are they really worth it?
Are there no mid range RAM maufacturers that have a good reputation? If so who do you recommend and where should I purchase from? (Looking at http://www.pc-memory-upgrade.co.uk and www.ebuyer.com atm).
Thanks for all your help in advance people, really appreciated =)
Kind Regards
Calla
P.S: Is there any difference performance wise if I was to buy 1 stick of 1GB or 2x512mb?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by calla on 04/10/04 03:38 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
1) It has Error Correction. It's SLOWER than standard RAM because the system has to calculate parity data to use that feature. You don't need it.
2) Never heard of Dual Band, just Dual Channel. Dual Channel makes your memory twice as wide for better performance.
3) No, CL is Cas Latency and represents how many clock cycles it takes for your memory to respond (aka, latency).
4) Those are individual response times, Tom's has some good articles explaining them.
5) Any DDR faster than PC3200 can be treated as PC3200 as long as BIOS supports it.
6) Pick a couple you like and make a new post to ask about them specifically.
7) As opposed to what, generic? I can't say enough bad stuff about companies who don't have enough faith in their product to put their name on it.
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I just want to add something to number 7. If you buy that cheap crap you see sold at BestBuy or Circuit City, don't expect a stable computer. I think many computer problems can be the result of using crappy memory, as well as computer slowdown.
I'm not a computer expert, but I did buy some junk from BestBuy once and my computer began crashing more frequently than before buying the ram. Sure it had windows 98 which crashes a lot by itself, but I'm sure throwing in some cheap ram didn't help either.
When you think about the purpose of ram, it becomes obvious that this is something you shouldn't cheap out too much on, if you want to stay cheap, at least go with the value ram additions from Corsair, and Kingston, that way you get a relatively decent price for ram much better than what the clowns at Best Buy will try to sell you.
Actually, my installations of 98SE never crashed on their own. 98SE crashing was nearly always caused by hardware problems. 2k was a little more tolerant of those problems, hence it didn't crash as much. But I just got around 98SE "instability" by using good hardware in the first place.
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Good mid range brad i would reccomend is crucial i use two sticks of pc3200 and have OCed it quite far with no problems. has proved to be very stable (Havent had a crash yet but now that i siad this i'm doomed)
Yeah cucial ram is good its not to expensive and i have been able to have my timings at 6-2-2-2 from the dfault of 8-3-3-3 which u would usually have to spend £20 extra for them and it appears to be very stable to.
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You might also want to check out <A HREF="http://www.overclockers.co.uk/" target="_new">http://www.overclockers.co.uk/</A> and <A HREF="http://www.microdirect.co.uk/home.aspx" target="_new">http://www.microdirect.co.uk/home.aspx</A>. Ebuyer is good for general stuff, but when it comes to top end memory, these sites are better. Try Corsair, Kingston HyperX or GeIL.
If you don't intend on overclocking, but want optimal performance, the maybe look at Corsair's Low Latency memory, which give aggressive timings right out of the box and saves you having to fart around in the BIOS.
The two aspects an awful lot of people seem to scrimp on when it comes to building a machine, are memory and PSU. Often they plump for high end mobo, graphics etc but neglect these two, and more often than not, it's these two that cause most problems if you go for the unbranded. If you're dead set on that A64, then I wouldn't compromise the memory by opting for cheap and cheerful (avoid ebuyer's own at ALL costs). Pick a brand and do some research. Tom's will have some useful guides for memory and browse through this forum and garner opinion. As this machine is gonna cost some, take you time and make sure you pick the right brand.
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