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Hey, I'm playing diplomacy in my european history class. I have don't know much
about how the game works, i'm England and have read somethings on opening
moves, but thats about all. My friends are Italy and russia. were trying to
build an allience based on Russia and I divideing up scandinavia and Italy and
i Fighting Germany and France. Italy and Russia are gonna try and attack
turckey too. I'm not sure about Austria, but they are so far away from me i
don't really care. I'm wondering if anyone whos played a lot has any tips
thanks
 
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First off, no one is too far away for you not to care about what they are
doing. Do you want Austria to attack Germany, or Turkey? Or maybe you want
Austria to attack your allies, slowing them down a bit. Should you try to
send Turkey against one of your allies, or get Turkey involved against
Austria? Think long and hard on this. Secondly, there are many web sites
offering advice on Diplomacy strategy, tactics and negotiation.

Two of the more encyclopedic sites are

http://www.diplom.org/ and

http://www.diplomacy-archive.com/

"Thetigercat88" <thetigercat88@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hey, I'm playing diplomacy in my european history class. I have don't know
much
> about how the game works, i'm England and have read somethings on opening
> moves, but thats about all. My friends are Italy and russia. were trying
to
> build an allience based on Russia and I divideing up scandinavia and Italy
and
> i Fighting Germany and France. Italy and Russia are gonna try and attack
> turckey too. I'm not sure about Austria, but they are so far away from me
i
> don't really care. I'm wondering if anyone whos played a lot has any tips
> thanks
 
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A few things you might want to think about.

Working with Italy and Russia could work out great for you. However,
remember that at the early part of the game you only have a few units and
arent strong enough to fight France AND Germany at the same time, even with
some help from Italy and Russia. If the two of them gang up on you, you're
probably toast! So you might consider making a temporary alliance with one
of them against the other, and see how that develops. This might depend on
you allies... if Italy is going to focus against Turkey first, you might
want to get some help from France against Germany. If Italy wants to attack
France first, maybe go that way.

Other things to keep in mind.
1) Russia getting too many units in the north (especially fleets) is bad
news for you longer term. Once you two take out Scandinavia, where do you
think his fleets will go?!
2) What Austria does WILL have an impact on you. If you're trying to work
with Italy, and Austria is attacking Italy, its going to be tough for Italy
to help you! Similarly, if Italy is attacking Turkey and Austria is helping
him, life for Italy will be much easier. Everything in this game is
inter-related!

Those are some general things to think about. Good luck!

-Adam


"Thetigercat88" <thetigercat88@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041211234958.07572.00002138@mb-m01.aol.com...
> Hey, I'm playing diplomacy in my european history class. I have don't know
> much
> about how the game works, i'm England and have read somethings on opening
> moves, but thats about all. My friends are Italy and russia. were trying
> to
> build an allience based on Russia and I divideing up scandinavia and Italy
> and
> i Fighting Germany and France. Italy and Russia are gonna try and attack
> turckey too. I'm not sure about Austria, but they are so far away from me
> i
> don't really care. I'm wondering if anyone whos played a lot has any tips
> thanks
 
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Thanks for the tips. I'm gonna try to go with Germany now too. Tell him to
attack Austria and that i'll get his back with France. Thus letting me take out
France with the help of Italy and having Russia and Italy fight Turkey and
russia will prolly help with Austria. Setting me up perfectly for a stap of
Germany. At least with any luck let me know if this is majorly flawed

-Mike
 
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That's good advice that David and Adam have given you.

My two-penn'orth is: if you expect Germany to attack Austria, expect to be
disappointed! G & A don't normally come into contact in the early stages of
the game. They sit on either side of a kind of dead zone -- Piedmont to
Livonia, all empty space and no supply centres.

Germany's first moves will probably be north- and westward, since that's
where the best chances of grabbing early centres lie. She normally comes
into conflict with Russia over Sweden, and with France and/or England over
Belgium, so she doesn't need the extra distraction of an expedition across
the no-man's land to the south and east.

Cheers,
Andy

"Thetigercat88" <thetigercat88@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks for the tips. I'm gonna try to go with Germany now too. Tell him to
> attack Austria and that i'll get his back with France. Thus letting me
take out
> France with the help of Italy and having Russia and Italy fight Turkey and
> russia will prolly help with Austria. Setting me up perfectly for a stap
of
> Germany. At least with any luck let me know if this is majorly flawed
>
> -Mike
 
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"Andy Tomlinson" <andy.tomlinson@removethis.zg.htnet.hr> writes:

Just a warning, you also have to worry that your "enemies in the game"
are reading this public newsgroup. It generally is not a very good
idea to ask for help here on any kind of on-going basis. They WILL
figure it out...... I'm sure they know how to Google.....
But still, good to see you learning, and good luck in the game,
just remember alliances can SHIFT!! Everything here could be
different next turn.

Jim-Bob

>That's good advice that David and Adam have given you.

>My two-penn'orth is: if you expect Germany to attack Austria, expect to be
>disappointed! G & A don't normally come into contact in the early stages of
>the game. They sit on either side of a kind of dead zone -- Piedmont to
>Livonia, all empty space and no supply centres.

>Germany's first moves will probably be north- and westward, since that's
>where the best chances of grabbing early centres lie. She normally comes
>into conflict with Russia over Sweden, and with France and/or England over
>Belgium, so she doesn't need the extra distraction of an expedition across
>the no-man's land to the south and east.

>Cheers,
>Andy

>"Thetigercat88" <thetigercat88@aol.com> wrote in message
>news:20041212234229.08116.00002030@mb-m05.aol.com...
>> Thanks for the tips. I'm gonna try to go with Germany now too. Tell him to
>> attack Austria and that i'll get his back with France. Thus letting me
>take out
>> France with the help of Italy and having Russia and Italy fight Turkey and
>> russia will prolly help with Austria. Setting me up perfectly for a stap
>of
>> Germany. At least with any luck let me know if this is majorly flawed
>>
>> -Mike
 

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Ah, but don't look at it from the perspective of what an experienced player
will do. Look at it from what the inexperienced players will do.

Typical things seen are players who might.

1. Take the position of "may lie" to be "must lie" and will lie at every
single opportunity.
2. May just go nuts after getting stabbed and vow eternal revenge
3. May make moves with regard not to what may be the smart thing, but based
on personal friendships.


"Andy Tomlinson" <andy.tomlinson@removethis.zg.htnet.hr> wrote in message
news:cpk2g2$snb$1@ls219.htnet.hr...
> That's good advice that David and Adam have given you.
>
> My two-penn'orth is: if you expect Germany to attack Austria, expect to be
> disappointed! G & A don't normally come into contact in the early stages
of
> the game. They sit on either side of a kind of dead zone -- Piedmont to
> Livonia, all empty space and no supply centres.
>
> Germany's first moves will probably be north- and westward, since that's
> where the best chances of grabbing early centres lie. She normally comes
> into conflict with Russia over Sweden, and with France and/or England over
> Belgium, so she doesn't need the extra distraction of an expedition across
> the no-man's land to the south and east.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
> "Thetigercat88" <thetigercat88@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:20041212234229.08116.00002030@mb-m05.aol.com...
> > Thanks for the tips. I'm gonna try to go with Germany now too. Tell him
to
> > attack Austria and that i'll get his back with France. Thus letting me
> take out
> > France with the help of Italy and having Russia and Italy fight Turkey
and
> > russia will prolly help with Austria. Setting me up perfectly for a stap
> of
> > Germany. At least with any luck let me know if this is majorly flawed
> >
> > -Mike
>
>
 
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For some reason I cannot fathom I am reminded of a story a high school
classmate told me long ago. He was talking with a seventh grader who
was asking what Algebra was all about. My friend was trying to explain
as best he could, but the seventh grader wasn't grasping it. He asked
in frustration: "But ... what's X?"

I don't know what that has to do with the quoted post, but in my mind
they are alike in some abstract way.

Thetigercat88 wrote:
> Thanks guys I won

--
Will Berry
Director of Operations, Techwood Con gaming convention
http://www.techwoodcon.com/