Score Card...Debate 3

Though as a Republican, I am still expected more in the Presidents performance here's my scorecard.

I recorded 23 identifiable questions. Same rules 10 points to the best answer, a lesser number to the opponent. I did penalize Senator Kerry for his "Dick Cheney's daughter" answer. Is this guy a complete knucklehead or what? Even gays and lesbians don't appreciate that kind of below the belt jab. It was not a good response to begin with. Is he really presidential material? Of course not.

Bush 220 Kerry 201.

Bush was simply better with facts and more focused, despite the awkward delivery.

The pundits saw it "Kerry on defense. I really didn't. He was plenty offensive. Bush just trumped his tired facts in too many places.

Kerry recycled too many criticisms from debates one and two. He didn't bring any fresh material, he has no pheasable plan. That allowed Bush to counter him effectively even if awkwardly at times.

I really did not like Kerry conveniently losing his cultivated upper class accent and using the word "ID- er" four times ala JFK I (That's "The First" for those children left behind by previous Administrations.).

That was gauche.

BTW- my some of my pathlology is much more similar to Kerry's than Bush's. We both attended private Catholic Schools and I symathixe with some points. But my parents weren't diplomats, and the Ivy League was not in the offering.

And as everyone I'm sure knows, I still ain't no diplomat.


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I called it a draw at first but then it went towards Bush. The gun questions, religion question, and woman in your life question really did it for me.

Besides that, Kerry keeps using the same stupid rhetoric that has been killed by the press after each debate.

The 17% medicare increase is not Bush's fault for example.

Too political for me. It's what turned me off and away from Gore too.

Kerry for example stopped using his "I have a plan" intro to each question. That wasn't working well apparently. I feel like I'm watching the result of a focus group. His karate chop is gone from his hand gestures is another example.

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It's a Presidential debate.......what has the current Vice-President's daughter's sexual orientation got to do with anything????
Yep, that was below the belt..even below the belt of our President's running mate.
Totally uncalled for....I could hardly believe that Edwards mentioned it during his debate with Mr. Cheney. I really wonder why Kerry and Edwards try to stoop so low as to say anything they "think" people want to hear..

I think this will cost them in votes.

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You're becoming irrelevant ...



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What will be of you and DH's antics when talking about peeing in a chick's butt? He's gonna go away!

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I'll be peeing in women's butts while I'm gone so don't worry.

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I thought it was 50/50 all the way through as DH said. If I had to draw a winner out I'd say to the average American who hadnt been paying attention to the news or political happenings for the last year.. Kerry won.
For the educated who understands the principles/how economics work/how the world works: Bush won.
When I say educated I dont mean your average know-nothing, party animal college student who is being molded into some liberal professors image..

Considering those perspectives, it was a draw. As I said in my thread, the final question really blew what Kerry had built up for most of the debate (which was a decent performance), out of the water.

Also, as the OP said.. the comment about Cheney's daughters was very unpresidential.. and a jab he should have left for Edwards (if anyone at all).

Kerry is obviously a highly read and honed politician.. but it would take a Clinton for a Democrat to beat Bush. To Bush's credit.. he really is a force to be reckoned with, no one says it but politically hes very savvy.

The "I'm a dumb hick" act that the rich, Anglo Saxon Connecticut-born boy that Bush has put on for years since he ran for office in Texas works like a charm.

And Dumbocrats propagate it. They have too much elitism in the party not too. But the average American is eating it up.

Clinton awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Yugoslavia - good ... Bush awards Halliburton no-bid contract in Iraq - bad...

Clinton spends 77 billion on war in Serbia - good .. Bush spends 87 billion in Iraq - bad...

Clinton imposes regime change in Serbia - good ... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Clinton bombs Christian Serbs on behalf of Muslim Albanian terrorists - good ... Bush liberates 25 million from a genocidal dictator - bad...

Clinton bombs Chinese embassy - good .. Bush bombs terrorist camps -
bad...


Clinton commits felonies while in office - good ... Bush lands on aircraft carrier in jumpsuit - bad...

No mass graves found in Serbia - good ... No WMD found Iraq - bad...

Stock market crashes in 2000 under Clinton - good .. Economy on upswing under Bush - bad...

Clinton refuses to take custody of Bin Laden - good .. World Trade Centers fall under Bush - bad...

Clinton says Saddam has nukes - good .. Bush says Saddam has nukes - bad...

Clinton calls for regime change in Iraq - good ... Bush imposes regime change in Iraq - bad...

Terrorist training in Afghanistan under Clinton - good ... Bush destroys training camps in Afghanistan - bad...

Milosevic not yet convicted - good ... Saddam turned over for trial - bad...

Ahh, it's so confusing!

Thought you would find this interesting. Every year an independent tax watchdog group analyzes the average tax burden on Americans, and then calculates the "Tax Freedom Day". This is the day after which the money you earn goes to you, not the government.

This year, tax freedom day was April 11th. That's the earliest it has been since 1991. It's latest day ever was May 2nd, which occurred in 2000. Notice anything special about those dates?

Recently, John Kerry gave a speech in which he claimed Americans are actually paying more taxes under Bush, despite the tax cuts. He gave no explanation and provided no data for this claim.

Another interesting fact: Both George Bush and John Kerry are wealthy men. Bush owns only one home, his ranch in Texas. Kerry owns 4 mansions, all worth several million dollars. (His ski resort home in Idaho is an old barn brought over from Europe in pieces. Not your average A-frame). Bush paid $250,000 in taxes this year; Kerry paid $90,000. Does that sound right?
The man who wants to raise your taxes obviously has figured out a way to avoid paying his own.


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Yes, and to all the Bushite dummies who just watch and don't listen, Bush won every one...

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<b> ...more people are driven insane through religious hysteria than by drinking alcohol - W.C. Fields </b><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Jake_Barnes on 10/14/04 11:29 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

Nobody ever said that the afgani war was bad. Kerry been in support of it since day 1.


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Addicted, finally.

That list Rich posted is for the most part retarded... Some things are appropriate, but a lot is just garbage.

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The Afghani war was IMO one of the most effective and efficient ones I've seen. Fast, made a HUGE regime change, and the aftermath has been so far relatively NOT that bad.

Amazing considering the Taliban is one of Osama's inventions, yet Saddam's regime isn't related to Osama. (as in, he holds it in control or has influence on it)

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<font color=blue>Ede</font color=blue><P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Eden on 10/15/04 00:47 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

I don't know about that last paragraph, but one thing that is wrong is that Bush has NOT put nuclear inspectors in North Korea. In fact they removed inspectors, cameras, etc from North Korea.

The rest though is food for thought.

The media is very biased nowadays. In that last debate Kerry contradicted himself on the Pell grants, flip flopping right then and there, but the media didn't even say anything.

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A lot of that is right.

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Haha, I'm really glad no one I know sends me those political "fact sheets" via e-mail, that would be annoying. Maybe I have some in one of my decoy accounts...an excavation is in order...

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