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Anonymous
March 12, 2005 1:46:34 AM

Archived from groups: rec.games.diplomacy (More info?)

phpDiplomacy handles order adjudication, messaging, and map generation,
all in an easy to use and intuitive interface. It's all written from
scratch in PHP, and it's under active development.

You can check it out using the links below, I would appreciate your
feedback, thanks,
Kestas J. K

phpDiplomacy test game:
[
http://dhost.info/kestas/phpdiplomacy/board.php?gid=1&l...
]

phpDiplomacy public forum:
[ http://dhost.info/kestas/phpdiplomacy/ ]

Freshmeat Project page:
[ http://freshmeat.net/phpdiplomacy/ ]

SourceForge Project page:
[ http://phpdiplomacy.sf.net/ ]
Anonymous
March 12, 2005 10:09:12 PM

Archived from groups: rec.games.diplomacy (More info?)

In article <1110609994.522466.121330@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, kestasjk wrote:
> phpDiplomacy handles order adjudication, messaging, and map generation,
> all in an easy to use and intuitive interface. It's all written from
> scratch in PHP, and it's under active development.

Millis Miller and myself are actually working on something similar, except
it hooks into the existing Ken Lowe Judges. We've just gotten started, but
anyone who's interested in helping is more than welcome.

> You can check it out using the links below, I would appreciate your
> feedback, thanks,
> Kestas J. K
>
> phpDiplomacy test game:
> [
> http://dhost.info/kestas/phpdiplomacy/board.php?gid=1&
> loginuser=testuser&loginpass=testpass
> ]
>

(snip)

Just FYI, storing things like login names and passwords, in the
URL itself is something of a security risk, particularly if your code
actually /trusts/ these (as it seems to do -- contact me privately if you
want more info). You're better off using session variables to store user
login info.

Also, it would be nice to have province names on the map you display.

Otherwise looks like an interesting project -- good luck with it!

-Tim Miller

--
tmiller@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Anonymous
March 13, 2005 2:24:13 AM

Archived from groups: rec.games.diplomacy (More info?)

> Millis Miller and myself are actually working on something similar,
except
> it hooks into the existing Ken Lowe Judges. We've just gotten
started, but
> anyone who's interested in helping is more than welcome.
I'm also planning to add support in phpDiplomacy for using existing
Diplomacy adjudicators; we seem to pretty much have the same goal in
mind!
Perhaps we should work together? There's no use in re-inventing the
wheel if we're both aiming towards the same thing, and we'll get more
exposure and users than if we work on seperate competing projects.

> Just FYI, storing things like login names and passwords, in the
> URL itself is something of a security risk, particularly if your code
> actually /trusts/ these (as it seems to do -- contact me privately if
you
> want more info). You're better off using session variables to store
user
> login info.
You're quite right, phpDiplomacy uses cookies for sessions, but you log
in using GET or POST variables. Here's a sample cookie which
authenticates you once you've logged in:
Name: sid
Content: a45fe163920b289ab39d439f90d77294%7C1

The MD5 hash in the cookie is the md5 hash of your md5 hash with a
random number appended, which is changed every time you log in; and the
number at the end of the cookie is the user ID.
phpDiplomacy was written with security in mind so I certainly welcome
your feedback in this area especially.

> Also, it would be nice to have province names on the map you display.
Yep the map is, hopefully, one of the features which will be the most
improved in 0.6. The map will change colours as you occupy various
territories (AFAIK this will be a first in online Diplomacy games. :) 
), and the armies and fleets which be represented by graphical icons
rather than 'A' and 'F'.

> Otherwise looks like an interesting project -- good luck with it!
Thanks, again please consider working together rather than competing,
Kestas J. K
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Anonymous
March 13, 2005 9:30:14 PM

Archived from groups: rec.games.diplomacy (More info?)

On 12 Mar 2005 23:24:13 -0800, kestasjk wrote:

>> Also, it would be nice to have province names on the map you display.
> Yep the map is, hopefully, one of the features which will be the most
> improved in 0.6. The map will change colours as you occupy various
> territories (AFAIK this will be a first in online Diplomacy games. :) 
> ), and the armies and fleets which be represented by graphical icons
> rather than 'A' and 'F'.

Sorry to tell you that someone else was first:
http://aachen.homeip.net/diplomacy/ contains an adjucator and program
that makes play simple like your phpDiplomacy and originates from 2002
(or 2001, I don't remember).
Unfortunately the code is really, really bad. So it kinda works, but
it's insecure and unmanageable and the game has a german interface only.
So it never reached popularity, but if you want to take a look at the
maps, you can see some at http://www/diplomacy/gfx/map_27_9_2.png ,
http://www/diplomacy/gfx/map_24_9_2.png ,
http://www/diplomacy/gfx/map_17_13_2.png ,
http://www/diplomacy/gfx/map_19_15_2.png

If someone wants to clean up the code: go ahead, but I guess it's easier
to do a complete rewrite ;) 

Cheers,

Lexi


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Anonymous
March 14, 2005 1:34:13 AM

Archived from groups: rec.games.diplomacy (More info?)

In article <1110698653.512546.237200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, kestasjk wrote:

> I'm also planning to add support in phpDiplomacy for using existing
> Diplomacy adjudicators; we seem to pretty much have the same goal in
> mind!
> Perhaps we should work together? There's no use in re-inventing the
> wheel if we're both aiming towards the same thing, and we'll get more
> exposure and users than if we work on seperate competing projects.

Exactly what I was thinking. If you go to http://www.njudge.org and go
into the Web CVS repository you can find some of the early design ideas
for the njudge-web project. We're really just getting started on
implementation, though (actually I wrote some of the base classes several
months ago but have been very busy since and just had time to pick it up
again).

The basic plan is to use the KL Judges for ajudication, as they are
probably the most powerful and feature rich ajudication engines available,
but lacks a friendly GUI frontend.

>> login info.
> You're quite right, phpDiplomacy uses cookies for sessions, but you log
> in using GET or POST variables. Here's a sample cookie which
> authenticates you once you've logged in:
> Name: sid
> Content: a45fe163920b289ab39d439f90d77294%7C1
>
> The MD5 hash in the cookie is the md5 hash of your md5 hash with a
> random number appended, which is changed every time you log in; and the
> number at the end of the cookie is the user ID.
> phpDiplomacy was written with security in mind so I certainly welcome
> your feedback in this area especially.

That's good to hear. Ideally everything would be done over an SSL
connection as well, but that has to be dependant on whether the host can
support it.

> Yep the map is, hopefully, one of the features which will be the most
> improved in 0.6. The map will change colours as you occupy various
> territories (AFAIK this will be a first in online Diplomacy games. :) 
> ), and the armies and fleets which be represented by graphical icons
> rather than 'A' and 'F'.

You should look at www.floc.net which is the mapping service for the
Judges, run by Alain Tesio. All he does is parse KL Judge output through
Mapit and displays the maps. The SCs do change color based on ownership.
For njudge-web, Millis and I were planning to use floc.net since all the
map generation work has been done very well by Alain.

> Thanks, again please consider working together rather than competing,

Certainly. As I said, njudge-web is really just out of the design phase
partly because I have been busy at work and with some issues with the NZMB
and USTT KL Judges, which I administer. In fact, you certainly have more
working code than we do, and that's useful. The trick, I think, is
integrating everything with the KL judges and creating a coherent player
registration system. That's another goal of njudge-web ... taking
registration data from the Judges and keeping it synchronized for you.

You can contact me via e-mail if you'd like to talk about this more,. You
should also probably CC Millis Miller. His e-mail is m i l l i s - a t -
f a z t e k d o t o r g (muddled to block spammers).

-Tim Miller

--
tmiller@sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
Anonymous
March 18, 2005 7:40:16 AM

Archived from groups: rec.games.diplomacy (More info?)

Thanks for the info Lexi, too bad I couldn't be the first.. I think
it's cleaner to start from scratch anyway. Hopefully njudge-web will be
the only external code phpDiplomacy uses.

Here's a map generated by phpDiplomacy:
http://img136.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img136&image=mapphp0mz....

The 'A' and 'F' representing armies and fleets need to be replaced with
graphical icons of course, but apart from that I think it's shaping up
pretty well. :) 

Regards,
Kestas.
Anonymous
March 18, 2005 9:10:20 PM

Archived from groups: rec.games.diplomacy (More info?)

Nice map. A couple of small points: You need a line to delineate
Skagerrak, and you have Burgundy misspelled.

Rob


"kestasjk" <kestas.j.k@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1111149615.999849.292940@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks for the info Lexi, too bad I couldn't be the first.. I think
> it's cleaner to start from scratch anyway. Hopefully njudge-web will be
> the only external code phpDiplomacy uses.
>
> Here's a map generated by phpDiplomacy:
> http://img136.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img136&image=mapphp0mz....
>
> The 'A' and 'F' representing armies and fleets need to be replaced with
> graphical icons of course, but apart from that I think it's shaping up
> pretty well. :) 
>
> Regards,
> Kestas.
>
Anonymous
March 19, 2005 6:13:57 AM

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Rob Addison wrote:
> Nice map. A couple of small points: You need a line to delineate
> Skagerrak, and you have Burgundy misspelled.
>
> Rob

And it seems Estonia has been made part of Finland instead of Livonia.
That's good ethnography, but lousy diplomacy.
>
>
> "kestasjk" <kestas.j.k@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1111149615.999849.292940@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>>Thanks for the info Lexi, too bad I couldn't be the first.. I think
>>it's cleaner to start from scratch anyway. Hopefully njudge-web will be
>>the only external code phpDiplomacy uses.
>>
>>Here's a map generated by phpDiplomacy:
>>http://img136.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img136&image=mapphp0mz....
>>
>>The 'A' and 'F' representing armies and fleets need to be replaced with
>>graphical icons of course, but apart from that I think it's shaping up
>>pretty well. :) 
>>
>>Regards,
>>Kestas.
>>
>
>
>
!