VIVO???

[errr]

I was wondering wat does it do and if it is useful bcoz i have no idea if it is worth buying with the 9600XT with Vivo or without it.
Thanks

 

[pat]

Vivo is Video In Video Out. you can capture live video with this card as TV show or video you taped from your last vacation and edit them and put them on DVD. It normally use composite video in, just as a vcr.

So, if you dont need the capture option, save money or spend the extra on a 9800pro

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[errr]

Thank you. i think ill save the $$ and buy xtra Ram of something

 

[devilry]

Im about to buy a card that has VIVO. I never knew wat VIVO was until i read this thread. I do a lot of video editing and a lot of video capturing. Would using the VIVO on the video card be better then using a firewire card?

 

[verse101]

VIVO lets you have video inputs I believe, but it'll be different from firewire. Firewire is for digital transfers and not really just capture a video input. I thought about VIVO too, but decided not to get it. Instead, I wanted to get a TV tuner card which has video inputs.

 

[lb19984]

VIVO is great
I know all in wonder cards have
coax in coax out (I mean they have the red white and yellow conectors)
s video in s video out
so you can have both a vcr and a dvd player hooked up



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[Crashman]

The red and white aren't important as features since those are sound and the connector just passes it through to the line-in of the soundcard. VIVO cards don't have such provisions, but they aren't needed.

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[Crashman]

Firewire isn't a video input, it's a data input. Devices that output "video" via firewire have already put the video in digital format.

VI of VIVO is an analog video input. Now you know digital is better than analog, but not all devices have firewire outputs, so Video In is usefull for those devices, things like analog camcorders, VCRs, etc.

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[lb19984]

Yes firewire is Digital but I dont think you have the capability of recording at high quality. As you can with vivo from the softaware provided in the 9600xt all in wonder box.
The 9600xt all in wonder also comes with a tv tuner and a radio tuner. It also comes with higher memmory and core speed than the regular 9600xt.

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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by lb19984 on 09/08/04 02:31 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[Crashman]

You don't actually have to record at any setting with firewire, you can input raw data that's already pre-recorded by the device. That is, if your camera captures at 1024x768, you receive a video file that's 1024x768 just as you would if taking it off a firewire hard drive.

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[lb19984]

I'm nnot sure about that when i had a camera It was a good camera I had much higher quality with s-video than with firewire
but whatvr

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[Mr5oh]

I'm nnot sure about that when i had a camera It was a good camera I had much higher quality with s-video than with firewire
but whatvr

High quality with S-video vs. firewire? Don't know how you came to that conclusion. How is the way its transferred affect its quality?

FYI: You aren't going to be able to argue with Crashman, after you been on this board for a while, you will find that Crashman, is always right, and is the most knowledgable person on this board (That I've seen so far).

I'm siding with Crashman on this one. If there was a truely a difference between S-video and firewire on your camera, it sounds like a hardware problem, or you had something set wrong, as that doesn't really make sense.

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[Crashman]

Digital cameras store data...converting that data to analog video then back to data makes little sense.

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[lb19984]

FYI I didnt stop arguing with crashman because I thought he was right but because I realized that there was no point of arguing. Crashman is deffinetely the most knowledgable person on this board and i would also like to thank him for helping on many occasions.
I had a sonytrv70 which is one of their best cameras The problem was that the software that the sony came with only allowed resolutions of 320x240 and when streched it looked like SHlT
when i hooked up the camera through s video to the ati s-video option and was able to record at the quality that i wanted.
I actually metioned in a previous post that i wasnt able to record at high quality
Maybe with an addition program you can get higher quality.
I also believe that without propper software your better of with s-video
I also based this because I was making dvd's and the s-video recording also looked better at the same resolution and took about twice as much time.
I understand that I would think exactly the same way on a technical point of view, but on a do it and look at the results way its not like that way.
Also on a different note The newest technology is not always the best for example as we are on the topic of cameras Sony introduced micromv and mini dvd cameras both have worse quality than minidv cameras.
Anyway I appreciate everyone on this site and i dont think there is anything wrong with a little arguing. I also dont want this to ruin my reputation with either crashman or Mr5oh.

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[Mr5oh]

I also dont want this to ruin my reputation with either crashman or Mr5oh.

No worries on that! I still have to side with Crashman. With your camera this sounds like a hardware issue. With your setup the S-video would have been a better quality.

I think we can both agree that S-video and Firewire are capable of sending the same exact data, if hardware/software allows this.

Aruging is generally good (Unless its something stupid like that BIN post in the video card section, LOL!). This is how we all learn stuff on this board, and in the end, we are still "friends." You seem to know just as much as me, if not more, so I defaintly couldn't think badly of you. Of course I still put Crashman in a league above us, .


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[Mr5oh]

(Unless its something stupid like that BIN post in the video card section, LOL!).

Of course the BIN post was very amusing.

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[lb19984]

I think I've learned more in the last four days
than i did with computers over the last year
Thanks everyone
Wow that was so funny!
I cant believe that there are such fcuk 's in the world
either my graphic card or my video card does not work.
give me a short and straight answer. I am not doing all that stuff you just mentioned. not too much interested in wasting my time searching for hardware information. just give me a one line answer.
I want to take that poll videocard, graphics card or user



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[RichPLS]

Using Sony camcorder software, ver 1, i believe, if you downloaded via firewire, the resolution was a much lower resolution than via analog. If you used another program, firewire transfered full camcorder resolution.
I know this was a know bug with sonys xfer software.
Do not know if resolved, since I have not used it since.
Firewire is the best, as long as you use something other than Sonys transfer program.


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