Wich Laptop is better?

[xfxnewguy]

Im currently looking for a new laptop my budget is 650$ range looking for a regular sized notebook 15 inch screen i dont need it to replace my desktop i have a good gaming desktop i just want to play world of warcraft on it and alot of ppl have said wow isnt a graphic intense game in this time of recession i decided to go with something cheap because why pay for extra laptop when you dont need it right? i might also use this laptop to watch movies or listen to music and i plan on keeping it until its replaced any brand laptop will work and any site but the 4 i have chosen are below i live in the united states btw for questions about shipping and what not but here is the 4 below if you have any suggestions about which you think is the best let me know my tech level is somewhat average i just dont know much about laptops except gaming on them is expensive wich one do you think is the best?

1. * Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

System Price : $599.00

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Home PremiumMemory
3 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive
160 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)Video
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450
Web Camera
Integrated 2.0 Mega Pixel Web CameraMedia Bay
8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)Certified Refurbished
Certified RefurbishedBase
Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)Hardware Upgrade
90W AC Adapter
6 Cell Primary Battery
Back-lit Keyboard
Integrated Finger Print ReaderNetwork Interface Card
Dell 1397 Wireless-G CardSystem Color
Jet BlackSoftware Upgrade
Microsoft Works 9.0Laptop Screen
15.4 WXGA Laptop Screen Display with TrueLife

2. * Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

System Price : $629.00

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Home PremiumMemory
4 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive
160 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)Video
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450
Web Camera
Integrated 2.0 Mega Pixel Web CameraNetwork Interface Card
Dell 1397 Wireless-G CardSoftware Upgrade
Microsoft Works 9.0Hardware Upgrade
90W AC Adapter
6 Cell Primary Battery
Integrated Finger Print ReaderCertified Refurbished
Certified RefurbishedLaptop Screen
15.4 WXGA Laptop Screen Display with TrueLifeMedia Bay
8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)Base
Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)Bluetooth Wireless
Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth ModuleSystem Color
Midnight Blue

3. * Inspiron 1420 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 (1.8GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

System Price : $609.00

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Home PremiumMemory
2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 677MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive
80 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)Video
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GSWeb Camera
No CameraNetwork Interface Card
3945 802.11a/g Wireless Mini CardSoftware Upgrade
Microsoft Works 8.5 with MS Office Trial Version SoftwareHardware Upgrade
6 Cell Primary Battery
90W AC AdapterCertified Refurbished
Certified RefurbishedLaptop Screen
14.1 inch WXGA Laptop ScreenMedia Bay
8X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capabilityBase
Inspiron 1420 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T7100 (1.8GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache)Bluetooth Wireless
Bluetooth Wireless Card 355System Color
Spring Green

4. * XPS M1330 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB, 2MB Cache)
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

System Price : $649.00

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Home PremiumMemory
2 GB DDR2 SDRAM 677MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive
120 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400 RPM)Video
128MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GSWeb Camera
Integrated 2.0 Mega Pixel Web CameraHardware Upgrade
Fingerprint Reader Touchpad
6 Cell Primary Battery
Dell Travel Remote Control
65W Adaptor, Additional
65W AC AdapterCertified Refurbished
Certified RefurbishedBase
XPS M1330 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T7250 (2.0GHz/800Mhz FSB, 2MB Cache)Media Bay
8X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capabilityNetwork Interface Card
Dell 1395 802.11G Wireless Mini CardSystem Color
Flamingo PinkSoftware Upgrade
Microsoft Works 9.0Laptop Screen
13.3 inch WXGA Standard Display

 

[xfxnewguy]

also wireless card doesnt matter as i have a usb N rated one

 

[xfxnewguy]

I also forgot that these are laptops refurbished by dell and guaranteed to look and work like new with a 21 day return policy for free and a 1 yr limited warranty on parts and labor.

 

[Peaks]

i just dont know much about laptops except gaming on them is expensive

how true this is

these laptops are good value, on the Dell site you have to pay a lot to get much better than the IntelJ Integrated Graphics Media Accelerator X3100 and infact when i last looked i couldn't see any studio laptops with much better than an integrated card, you had to go with XPS. In my opinion i owuld go with options 1 or 4! Not sure if the gpu on the studio laptop is better than the one on the XPS, but it hasmore memory, which is always a plus. However, $649.00 for an XPS is good, if your positive its in good condition. i knwo people who have had bad experiences with buying second hand laptops.

 

[xfxnewguy]

i was looking at these vostro what do you think? are the above better i dont mind a pink laptop as im sure my gf would make fun of me for it haha lol
1.

Vostro 1510 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
Genuine Windows Vista Business

System Price : $629.00

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Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Business
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Memory
3 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)
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Hard Disk Drive
160 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
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Video
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GS
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Web Camera
Integrated 1.3MP Web Camera and Digital Microphone
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Media Bay
8X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
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Base
Vostro 1510 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
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Bluetooth Wireless
Dell Wireless 360 Bluetooth Module
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Network Interface Card
Dell 1395 802.11G Wireless Mini Card
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Hardware Upgrade
90W AC Adapter
No External USB Modem
No Fingerprint Reader
6 Cell Battery
No Fingerprint Reader
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Certified Refurbished
Certified Refurbished
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Laptop Screen
15.4 inch WXGA Laptop Screen

2.
Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

System Price : $649.00

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Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium
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Memory
4 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)
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Hard Disk Drive
250 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)
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Video
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450
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Software Upgrade
Microsoft Works 9.0
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Media Bay
8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)
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Certified Refurbished
Certified Refurbished
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Base
Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
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Web Camera
Integrated 2.0 Mega Pixel Web Camera
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Network Interface Card
Dell 1510 Wireless-N Card
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Hardware Upgrade
90W AC Adapter
6 Cell Primary Battery
Integrated Finger Print Reader
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System Color
Midnight Blue
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Laptop Screen
15.4 WXGA Laptop Screen Display with TrueLife

 

[xfxnewguy]

i can go on and on with this i need some help deciding if i do decide of something good ill let you all know how this works out for me and if the laptop was worth it i recently bought a dell vostro 1000 ignorant to the facts that integrated graphics suck lol i have 2 8800 gts and i got 7fps max on that slow laptop sent it back thats why i have been posting here when i get a refund i will spend my money on one of these things just let me know what all of you think im happy about criticism!!

 

[xfxnewguy]

i am interested in all of these laptops just cant figure out wich one would work best is the nvidia 8400 128mb better than the ati 3450 256mb or maybe the nvidia 8400 256mb is it any better than the ati 3450 256mb anyone know im trying to decide here on whats good

 

[dwellman]

On the low to midrange end, I like ATI for, what I observe, is superior HW decoding capabilities, i.e. BlueRay and other HD content. And since the beginning (back in the Mach days), ATI has almost always had better 2D rendering than the competition, but it's something moot, these days.

 

[xfxnewguy]

hmmm ati or nvidia the ancient battle for the masses who wins?

 

[xfxnewguy]

wow i was looking around through google and found this useful link on it http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html thats the 8400m gs i also found another link http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benchmark-List.844.0.html the real question is were the benchmarks the same hardware im doing research as we speak about it and i will let you know you can use those above links as reference

 

[xfxnewguy]

the answer to the final question Ati beats the 8400m gs slightly and like others have said its better for movies so i guess im gonna base the rest of the selection on bang for buck thanks everyone

 

[xfxnewguy]

ive broken it down to this selection below wich laptop do you think is better?
1.
* Vostro 1510 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)
* Genuine Windows Vista Business

System Price : $629.00

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista BusinessMemory
3 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive
160 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)Video
256MB NVIDIA GeForce 8400M GSWeb Camera
Integrated 1.3MP Web Camera and Digital MicrophoneMedia Bay
8X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capabilityBase
Vostro 1510 Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5670 (1.8GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 800MHz FSB)Bluetooth Wireless
Dell Wireless 360 Bluetooth ModuleNetwork Interface Card
Dell 1395 802.11G Wireless Mini CardHardware Upgrade
90W AC Adapter
No External USB Modem
No Fingerprint Reader
6 Cell Battery
No Fingerprint ReaderCertified Refurbished
Certified RefurbishedLaptop Screen
15.4 inch WXGA Laptop Screen

2. * Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)
* Genuine Windows Vista Home Premium

System Price : $649.00

Operating System
Genuine Windows Vista Home PremiumMemory
4 GB DDR2 SDRAM 667MHz (2 DIMMs)Hard Disk Drive
250 GB SATA Hard Drive (5400RPM)Video
256MB ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450Software Upgrade
Microsoft Works 9.0Media Bay
8X Slot Load CD / DVD Burner (Dual Layer DVD+/-R Drive)Certified Refurbished
Certified RefurbishedBase
Studio 15 (1535) Laptop: Intel Core 2 Duo T5750 (2.00GHz/667Mhz FSB/2MB cache)Web Camera
Integrated 2.0 Mega Pixel Web CameraNetwork Interface Card
Dell 1510 Wireless-N CardHardware Upgrade
90W AC Adapter
6 Cell Primary Battery
Integrated Finger Print ReaderSystem Color
Midnight BlueLaptop Screen
15.4 WXGA Laptop Screen Display with TrueLife

 

[Peaks]

Studio....no question!!!

Cant really see how the vostro beats it!!

 

[dwellman]

Oh, that's a refurb? Explains the price.

Like I always say. . Studio series is the poor man's XPS. . . or the rich man's Inspiron-- you know-- however you want to look at it.

 

[pcdude_2010]

no way man, for a gaming laptop i'd DEFINITELY go with the xps. Hands down it's the best there is for gaming. If you want something more along the media lines, i'd go with a Sony Vaio, but their a little more expensive. The quality for an xps is remarkable, and if you can get it for that price then do it. I'd shoot for a stronger processor though, but the one you listed should do. Studio's are built for design and business, not entertainment. Same with the Vostro. Inspiron and Xps are your best bet. IF you want to dish out some more cash, Dell has an XPS World of Warcraft Edition on their site. So ya, XPS wins.

 

[Mursha]

IF you want to dish out some more cash, Dell has an XPS World of Warcraft Edition on their site. So ya, XPS wins.

For that price you could just order a custom laptop with 9800M GT and quad core processor. Way cheaper than Dell or Alienware.

If my budget would be at 800$, i would look for an Acer laptop. Very good value for the price imo, or get an laptop with 8600M GT as cheap as possible to ensure that all games work.

 

[Peaks]

For that price you could just order a custom laptop with 9800M GT and quad core processor. Way cheaper than Dell or Alienware.

Hell yea...custom laptops IMO are always cheaper than buying from a manufacturer. You can get laptops that are just as good as an XPS for better money. And as for Alienware, sure they look good but they are one hell of a rip off!

 

[xfxnewguy]

i think im going to be patient like you all have said and look around i might get a xps just depends what other deals i can find might even try ebay if its new in the box with a warranty would could go wrong? but now im expanding my budget to $800 i have looked at the world of warcraft laptop a real rip off id say maybe buy a nice used car for that price that gets 25-30 a gallon the price gas is right now prolly would be a better investment just dont got that kind of money to waste as im going back to school prolly and will need all the money i can get!

 

[xfxnewguy]

Gateway M-6862 729$

* Intel® Centrino® Duo Mobile Technology
* Intel® Core™ 2 Duo processor T5750
* 2 MB L2 Cache | 2.0 GHz | 667 MHz FSB
* 15.4-inch Ultrabright™ WXGA TFT display
* Intel® PM965 chipset
* 4096 MB 667 MHz DDR2 memory
* ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 2600 XT PCI Express Graphics
* HDMI version 1.2 connector
* 1.3 Megapixel webcam
* 250 GB 5400 RPM SATA hard drive
* 8X Multi-format Double Layer DVDRW with DVD-RAM and Labelflash™
* 5-in-1 Memory card reader
* 56K ITU V.92 ready Fax/Modem
* 802.11n Wireless LAN
* 10/100 Ethernet LAN
* Windows Vista® Home Premium 64-bit with SP1

 

[xfxnewguy]

Asus X83Vb-X1

DETAILED SPECIFICATIONS:

Processor Intel Core 2 Duo 2Ghz
Memory 4GB DDR2 Dual Channel SDRAM (2 Dimms) - Run more applications at a higher speed
Hard Drive 250GB SATA 5400rpm Hard Drive - Plenty of storage for everything
Operating System Genuine Windows® Vista Premium 64 bit- the newest operation system
Display 14.1" Wide Screen HD WXGA+ Display - Beautiful picture and movie quality
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS 512MB
CD/DVD Drive Supermulti 8x CD/DVD burner (DVD+/-RW) with Double-Layer write capability - play and burn CDs and DVDs!
Networking

802.11 a/b/g/n
Primary Battery 6-cell Lithium Ion Primary Battery

this is new with warranty for 799$ the other is new also

 

[xfxnewguy]

i figured the 9300M Gs was slower than the ati radeon 2600 ati am i right?