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Anonymous   01-28-2002 at 11:55:34 PM

I'm having issues with Counter-Strike frame rates. I have a Creative Geforce 2 GTS 32 MB card which I have been playing CS on for about 6 months now. I recently purchased a Gainward Geforce 3 TI 200 and popped that in. Unfortunately its performance under CS is not even comparable to the Creative card. Frame rates with the old G2 GTS are much better than with the new G3 TI200. Anyone got any ideas?

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Flamethrower205   01-29-2002 at 01:42:44 AM
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More info- other components of comp, drivers, os, etc.

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TheAntipop   01-29-2002 at 02:35:29 AM
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This happens to my friend running a GF3 Ti200 on a Dell P4 1.7 ghz in WinXP. I could not for the life of me figure it out, but he gets 60fps which is enough to play. If I figure somethin out, I'll post it here right away.

Hard work often pays off in time, but laziness always pays off now.

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Red_Zealot   01-29-2002 at 04:49:27 AM
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In console:
max_fps 100

This overrides CS's natural framerate "cap"...I didn't tell my friend and showed him up when my secondary system "got" 20 more fps than his new GeForce3 ubermachine...

"If you teach a child to read, then he or her will be able to pass a literacy test" - George W.

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Flamethrower205   01-29-2002 at 04:52:25 AM
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lol, ubermachine. What next- he will be declared uber soldat in RTCW?:)

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.

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Red_Zealot   01-30-2002 at 03:02:56 AM
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It was so funny...He started fuming about how CS "wasn't optimized for the next generation" of systems, and that's why I was able to get the extra frames. Then my primary system (Athlon 1200@1330, GF 2 Ultra @ 300/480), wasted his system in 3dMark2000 by over 1000 points....

Man, was he angry....

"If you teach a child to read, then he or her will be able to pass a literacy test" - George W.

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Flamethrower205   01-30-2002 at 03:35:08 AM
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lol

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Anonymous   01-31-2002 at 06:28:42 AM
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My machine specs are:
Athalon 1.2
Iwill kk266r
Geforce 3 Ti 200
256 Crucial SDRAM

I'm using 23.11 Nvidia drivers. I can boot the machine with my G2 gts 32 Meg and play cs with great frame rates. Shutdown and throw my G3 ti 200 in, reboot, play cs with horrid frame rates. Its really odd, the only thing I can think is that the G2 gts outperforms the G3 ti200 but I don't believe that...

hehe and my fps_max is 100 ;)

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TheAntipop   01-31-2002 at 06:59:10 AM
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its not related to that, frame rate stays at 60 not 72 which is the default cap in half life and all its mods.

Hard work often pays off in time, but laziness always pays off now.

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Red_Zealot   01-31-2002 at 07:01:25 PM
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Windows NT Refresh Rate bug, then?

Is the screen refreshing at 60, or is the vid card acutally only getting 60 fps? Can it do 60 fps consistent while playing?

"If you teach a child to read, then he or her will be able to pass a literacy test" - George W.

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TheAntipop   01-31-2002 at 08:32:57 PM
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well the console command "cl_showfps 1" and "net_graph 3" shows 60 fps but i dont know if the refresh rate is 60 but would that affect the reported frame rate?

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silverpig   01-31-2002 at 09:55:39 PM
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Do you reinstall the drivers when you put in the new card? Or do you just switch cards?

Lyrics. Wasted time between solos.

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silverpig   01-31-2002 at 09:58:25 PM
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Yes the refresh rate is set at 60 Hz, so unless your card is giving you less than 60 fps, the fps counter will only show 60. Get one of the utilities that forces windows to use higher refresh rates in games in NT/2k/XP.

I had the same problem, but once I got the refresh fixed, I started getting a max of 100 fps. I still have one weird problem though... My fps counter will only ever show 100 fps, 50 fps, or 33.3 fps. Nothing in between ever.

Lyrics. Wasted time between solos.

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Red_Zealot   02-01-2002 at 05:45:22 AM
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In terms of the refresh rates, I highly recommend the nvreffix program. It has an excellent interface!

"If you teach a child to read, then he or her will be able to pass a literacy test" - George W.

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silverpig   02-01-2002 at 09:46:57 AM
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Yeah, I did that. 100 Hz refresh rate in CS now, but the fps meter will only display 100, 50, and 33.3 fps. Never anything different. Weird.

Lyrics. Wasted time between solos.

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Red_Zealot   02-02-2002 at 06:21:12 AM
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Very weird.

BTW, the problem IS the refresh rate bug. Simply install the appropriate fix and you will be good to go.

"If you teach a child to read, then he or her will be able to pass a literacy test" - George W.

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silverpig   02-02-2002 at 08:41:25 AM
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I installed 27.20s and re did the refresh rate thing. I'll try it out in a bit.

Lyrics. Wasted time between solos.

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reptilej   02-03-2002 at 07:19:27 PM
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i don't know if this was recomended already or not but i also had a fps problme with my geforce 2 gts card. sometimes i would get 85 fps and sometimes i would get only 60 max. the thing that fixed it was re-installing the newest opengl drivers. try that. now i get 100 fps in cs, that was of course after i turned v-sync off.

on another note, does anyone know what the advantages of v-sync is? i turned it off and get more fps and the quality looks the same to me.

repeat after me, we are all individuals!

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UFO_WARVIPER   02-03-2002 at 09:07:56 PM
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I had the same problem when I "upgraded" my K6-2 450 Mhz system. It had a Voodoo2 and CS ran great. When I installed the 64MB GeForce2 MX 400,MY FRAMERATES ON EVERYTHING SUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'll repaste some of my posts on that here.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

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silverpig   02-03-2002 at 10:20:41 PM
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With vsync turned off you may get "tearing". This occurs when your card renders a new frame before you monitor has finished displaying the last frame. Your monitor will then display only the first half of frame 1, and then halfway through, it'll switch and display frame 2. Normally it isn't noticeable, but with certain combinations of refresh rate/frame rate, and motion, you can see a line moving around the screen.

Lyrics. Wasted time between solos.

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