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June 15, 2011 3:47:25 AM

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What do you get with drugs, money and American made weapons?


Obamaseal



June 15, 2011 6:08:47 AM

dogman_1234 said:


What do you get with drugs, money and American made weapons?



I know! USA!

arf... no... miss Kentucky Fried Chicken, pickup and a touch of prudichness.
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June 15, 2011 6:33:48 AM

^ I was thinking Mexico...
June 15, 2011 12:58:28 PM

Your creating too many new threads ... i am rationing you to one a week from now on.

/slaps doggy
June 15, 2011 1:23:22 PM

There are many inaccuracies or information left out in that article. For one, they fail to mention this: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/03/03/eveningnews/m...

In addition, Mexican authorities sieze hundreds of thousands of weapons every year. Of those hundreds of thousands they only submited 29,000+ weapons for tracing and of those 29,0000+, 70% originate in the USA. Kind of puts it in perspective, yeah?

Also, you can't buy full auto machine guns, rocket launchers, TOW missiles, and grenades at private guns stores along the border. Add that to the fact that our own government and the BATFE knowingly allowed guns across the border in that operation fast and furious.
June 15, 2011 1:39:27 PM

Yeah more guns ... more sugar ... more takeaway ... more caffeine.

After the survivors limp home from their shoootouts they can order fast food and sit on the couch till their hearts give out under the strain of all of that fat.

America ... if the guns don't getcha the couch and food will.

He who has the biggest plasma wins ...

What exactly are you aspiring to in terms of a way of life?

Hint; the cowboy lifestyle was in fact a lie ... hollywood dressed up a smelly pig there and it appears many of you bought it ... lock ... stock ... and barrel.

Giddy up pardners ...
June 15, 2011 1:41:35 PM

^^ sometimes you are hard to decypher rey.
June 16, 2011 12:46:32 PM

And some more information:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/how-did-the-project-gun...

Amazing they allow these guns to get into the hands of criminals and then turn around and tell us there needs to be more gun control. What a scam.

And, i really wish they would at least try to report accurately. An AK-47/74 is NOT a high powered rifle. The 7.62mm x 39mm is a medium powered round compared to .308 winchester or .30-06.
June 16, 2011 4:00:49 PM

^ Gun regulations.
June 16, 2011 4:03:46 PM

Yes.

The NATO round is 51mm long ... not quite as powerful as the .30-06 ... but versatile and an excellent section machine gun or sniper round.

I have no idea why i posted this as I am not a gun nut ...
June 16, 2011 4:31:06 PM

dogman_1234 said:
^ Gun regulations.



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June 16, 2011 4:35:58 PM

^ Regs to prevent more cartels form getting our weapons?
June 16, 2011 4:38:09 PM

dogman_1234 said:
^ Regs to prevent more cartels form getting our weapons?



Did you even read the articles? It was the government via BATFE that allowed those guns into the hands of the cartels.
June 17, 2011 9:59:01 AM

Reynod said:
Yes.
The NATO round is 51mm long ... not quite as powerful as the .30-06 ...

Both not correct.
The "X51" part of the designation does not designate the length of the round. The NATO round is about 3" (75 - 80 mm) long. And it is just as powerful as the standard .30-06.

From wikipedia:
"The cartridge itself offers similar ballistic performance in most firearms to the .30-06 Springfield that it replaced in U.S. service. Though shorter, standard loadings fire similar bullet weights at similar velocities. Modern propellants allowed the same velocity from a case with less capacity. The smaller case requires less brass and yields a shorter cartridge. This shorter cartridge allows a reduction in the size of the firearms that chamber it."

Both cartridges result in 158 grain slugs (standard military loads) at a muzzle velocity of about 2800 fps. The .30-06 has more potential when handloading because of the larger cartridge case.

Personally for a sniper round, I'd prefer .338 Lapua.
June 17, 2011 3:12:08 PM

I thought the USMC used a .50 sniper round. A shot to the towel with that, and even dental records might be useless.
June 19, 2011 3:28:11 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9751mm_NATO

I think I am correct plus I have fired enough of them to know having spent time in the military and as a techy servicing the mods for the FN series ... the SLR / AR (FN) and ANPSG-1 etc.

The 30-06 has a bit more kick ... albeit an older design.

The 51mm refers to the case length ... not the round ... your being pedantic there.
I could be more pedantic ... Case length 51.18 mm (2.015 in)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:30CalCompareVelocity....

http://www.thegunzone.com/30cal.html

http://www.303british.com/id36.html

Snipers are cowards ... real men use knives and fight naked ... lol !!
September 12, 2011 4:18:17 PM

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