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Hi! I have tried Sheet- to-go (Doc-to-go ver 5.00) and Quicksheet
but notice that there many useful features being left-out.
For example, I cant select the WHOLE sheet to adjust the Row or Column
but had to so -one by one or drag with the stylus which is tedious and prone
to mistake.
Is there any way which I might have left out.
Please help.
Thanks
Alvin.G
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In article <413ace70$1_2@news.tm.net.my>, "Alvin.G" <AlvinG@yahoo.com>
wrote:
> Hi! I have tried Sheet- to-go (Doc-to-go ver 5.00) and Quicksheet
> but notice that there many useful features being left-out.
> For example, I cant select the WHOLE sheet to adjust the Row or Column
> but had to so -one by one or drag with the stylus which is tedious and prone
> to mistake.
>
> Is there any way which I might have left out.
> Please help.
> Thanks
> Alvin.G
Wow. That is a major serious problem. ;-)
I am always amazed that a program as complex as Excel, which was
designed for a relatively powerful personal computer, runs as well as it
does and with the number of features available on these PDAs.
You could always set the columns using your PC version of Excel and then
sync it back to your PDA.
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On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 10:46:10 GMT, Doug Hoffman <dhoffman@journey.com>
was understood to have stated the following:
>I am always amazed that a program as complex as Excel, which was
>designed for a relatively powerful personal computer, runs as well as it
>does and with the number of features available on these PDAs.
Basic spread sheets have been around for years; I ran my first one,
Visicalc, on a 1.4Khz Z80 with 48kb of RAM, although the OS took a
chunk of that. My first PDA had far more capabilities than that.
Granted, today's spread sheets have a lot more "nice" features like
font selection and what not, but basic spreadsheet functionality isn't
that expensive in terms of computational power. Larger and/or more
complex spread sheets may recalc faster if you have more horsepower,
but that's a different issue altogether. The main drawback to spread
sheeting on a PDA is the limited display real estate, and the limited
input mechanism.
>You could always set the columns using your PC version of Excel and then
>sync it back to your PDA.
That's the best solution, IMO. The PDA's role in spread sheets and
word processing, IMO, is primarily for "in the field" review, and
minor updates, but massive edits are best suited for a PC class
computer. Nice that, with a PDA, though, you at least have a "floppy
disc with input and display" capabilities. :-D
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On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:24:39 -0400, David W. Poole, Jr. wrote:
> >I am always amazed that a program as complex as Excel, which was
> >designed for a relatively powerful personal computer, runs as well as it
> >does and with the number of features available on these PDAs.
>
> Basic spread sheets have been around for years; I ran my first one,
> Visicalc, on a 1.4Khz Z80 with 48kb of RAM, although the OS took a
> chunk of that.
And the Z80 would have performed much better if its CPU wasn't
running in 'sleep' mode. But what computer was that? Most of
the early computers that preceded the TRS-80s, Commodor Pets, Ataris
and the Apple II had Z80s with selectable 2/4 mhz clocks. I vaguely
recall one S100 board having an adjustable clock that ran under 2
Mhz, but I'm not sure of the brand (Xitan?). There certainly were a
lot of odd little PCs back then, such as Processor Tech., Sorcerer,
etc.
> My first PDA had far more capabilities than that.
True, and far easier to carry around than the early portables,
some of which IIRC weighed more than 20 pounds.
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"Doug Hoffman" <dhoffman@journey.com> wrote in message newshoffman-8DC0D7.06460805092004@journey.net.client.newsread.com...
> In article <413ace70$1_2@news.tm.net.my>, "Alvin.G" <AlvinG@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi! I have tried Sheet- to-go (Doc-to-go ver 5.00) and Quicksheet
> > but notice that there many useful features being left-out.
> > For example, I cant select the WHOLE sheet to adjust the Row or Column
> > but had to so -one by one or drag with the stylus which is tedious and prone
> > to mistake.
> >
> > Is there any way which I might have left out.
> > Please help.
> > Thanks
> > Alvin.G
>
> Wow. That is a major serious problem. ;-)
It's not a serious problem, but oddly enough it's one of the ommissions that bugs
me. Other ommissions (also minor) that really bug me are that I can't hide row
or column headers or gridlines. In a way the fact that they have managed to
implement the difficult features makes it all the more annoying that they didn't
finish the last 5% of the job. Screen realestate is probably the most precious
resource on a PDA so missing out features like these, all of which are useful to
make most efficient use of a small screen, is bad.
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BillB <rainbose@earthlink.newt> wrote in message news:<fjjqj0do289edipmev3s8mn3ci7nmb1ero@4ax.com>...
> On Tue, 07 Sep 2004 01:24:39 -0400, David W. Poole, Jr. wrote:
>
> > >I am always amazed that a program as complex as Excel, which was
> > >designed for a relatively powerful personal computer, runs as well as it
> > >does and with the number of features available on these PDAs.
> >
> > Basic spread sheets have been around for years; I ran my first one,
> > Visicalc, on a 1.4Khz Z80 with 48kb of RAM, although the OS took a
> > chunk of that.
>
> And the Z80 would have performed much better if its CPU wasn't
> running in 'sleep' mode. But what computer was that? Most of
> the early computers that preceded the TRS-80s, Commodor Pets, Ataris
> and the Apple II had Z80s with selectable 2/4 mhz clocks. I vaguely
> recall one S100 board having an adjustable clock that ran under 2
> Mhz, but I'm not sure of the brand (Xitan?). There certainly were a
> lot of odd little PCs back then, such as Processor Tech., Sorcerer,
> etc.
This was a TRS-80 model 1. I didn't realize the processor ran in
"sleep" mode. :-) But I did enjoy learning that it had an "alternate"
register set.
> > My first PDA had far more capabilities than that.
>
> True, and far easier to carry around than the early portables,
> some of which IIRC weighed more than 20 pounds.
One of my prior employers had one of those 'luggable', which they ran
Unix on. I remember it was a back breaker dragging that puppy around,
and since I was the youngest at the time, I was given the task of
lugging it. Gee, thanks! :-D
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On 8 Sep 2004 18:18:46 -0700, David W. Poole, Jr. wrote:
> This was a TRS-80 model 1. I didn't realize the processor ran in
> "sleep" mode. :-) But I did enjoy learning that it had an "alternate"
> register set.
Ugh. I remember it mainly for its awful keyboard bounce. But I
also remember it for a delightful little program that gave it a song
and dance man, the Dancing Demon. The Model II was huge in
comparison, but a reliable workhorse.
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BillB <rainbose@earthlink.newt> wrote in message news:<aipvj0dvaerclfrn4lm9r145250g8ddcv1@4ax.com>...
> On 8 Sep 2004 18:18:46 -0700, David W. Poole, Jr. wrote:
>
> > This was a TRS-80 model 1. I didn't realize the processor ran in
> > "sleep" mode. :-) But I did enjoy learning that it had an "alternate"
> > register set.
>
> Ugh. I remember it mainly for its awful keyboard bounce. But I
> also remember it for a delightful little program that gave it a song
> and dance man, the Dancing Demon. The Model II was huge in
> comparison, but a reliable workhorse.
Hmm, exactly how old are you guys to know about these ancient
computers?
My first computer was an Olivetti (IBM PC clone) running at 8 MHz,
MS-DOS 2.1. It gives me chills that modern day PDA's are more powerful
than this..
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On 9 Sep 2004 09:01:22 -0700, Sceptre wrote:
> Hmm, exactly how old are you guys to know about these ancient
> computers?
>
> My first computer was an Olivetti (IBM PC clone) running at 8 MHz,
> MS-DOS 2.1. It gives me chills that modern day PDA's are more powerful
> than this..
Hmm, exactly how young are you that your first computer was that
Olivetti? I bought one of those when they first came out, but
in the USA it had an AT&T 6300 label on it. It's mono/color video
was implemented very nicely. RIP
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