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Looking for a good 15" gaming laptop... Sager NP8662 seems to be the best/only hit. Anyone want to give props to MSI or any other companies out there? I haven't found much in the same quality range (Clevo base is a plus)...

And if the 8662 is a taker, does anybody have an opinion on buying from XoticPC as opposed to getting a computer right off Sager's website? The minimal Warranty extension is the only difference (same price).

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Budget: <= 2500 USD
Purpose: Desktop Replacement = dedicated graphics card
Uses: current and future RTS's (Starcraft 2), hobby photo manipulation, general media
Length of use: as long as possible. Once the games surpass it, I still want to be able to use it. Upgradability is a definite factor.

Monitor: 15.4" 1680x or 1920x
HDD: 500GB preferably, which makes 5200rpm the only choice... right?
RAM: >=4GB, DDR3 preferable
CPU: Intel, >= 2.66GHz (25W preferable)

Battery Life: >=2hrs, the longer the better

Vendors: Any reputable website or store

Other: Fan noise is a factor; I don't want this thing to levitate or turn my desk into a giant gyroscope.

Where:
USA


I appreciate the help!

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I've been reading some reviews for the MSI rigs, they don't like how floppy the machine feels, and also the keyboard is cramped and arranged poorly, making typing very difficult and frustrating. If you're interested in making the computer last for some time, or want to do anything more then gaming, I would not recommend MSI.

I have not done a ton of research on Sager, they can be slightly more difficult to find information about, from the little time i have put into it, but i can't really find anything bad written about their laptops. And when it comes to customer service, people have less bad things to say about them then Dell or HP (but every company naturally has terrible reviews for some weird reason, lol).

I'm trying to find a good, reliable, versatile, and portable gaming rig aswell. If my budget was higher like yours I would get an Alienware Area-51 m15x, those laptops are gorgeous in every way. But if you don't mind getting a 16 incher, HP has recently released upgrades for their video cards. Their Pavilion DV6T has a very modest 1gb ATI radeon 4650, and for signifigantly less then the alienware. From the durability, price, and reliability standpoint, I'm probably going to go with that HP, but my budget is 1,500; if it was 2,500 like yours, i'd get an alienware no question.

Reply to Dewskerz

Thanks, but I'll pass on the alienware. Checking out the specs finds it rather lacking and absurdly overpriced.

Sager is a solid company, been around for ages and the specific notebook I'm looking at is built on a Clevo platform; it's got my trust :-)

The HP HDX16t seems decent, for the price it's really solid. I totally dig the sound system on it :-p HP bloatware sucks anyhow...
But the video card and DDR2 RAM fall short of the Sager... seems like it's still top dog for me.

Thanks dewskerz, good luck in your hunt.

Reply to doormouse

dewskerz:
BTW, the Sager NP8662 can definitely fit in your price range; mess around with the specs and I'm sure you'll find something that works. Check out the NP2096 too.


Comments, anyone else??

Reply to doormouse

Having owned a Sager laptop, I would recommend them. I never had to deal with customer service, but the NP5760 I bought is rock solid so that's probably why. As far as 15'' gaming systems, I don't think you will find a better product out there. Honestly, I would just purchase direct from Sager (what I did). I've heard some iffy things about xotic and if there is no price difference, then what's it matter.

------------------------------ LAPTOP: Sager NP5760|T7200|2gb DDR2-667| 100gb 7200rpm HDD| 512mb 7950GTX|17'' WUXGA

Desktop: Core2 E7200 | Corsair 2gb DDR2-800 | Gigabyte EP35-DS3L | 250gb Seagate Barracuda | MSI GTX260 (192 SP) | Corsair VX550 | Antec 300 case
Reply to lostandwandering

lostandwandering:
Rock on, thanks for the feedback. Sager for the win!

 

Anyone else deal with Xotic? I have heard mixed reviews also....


Message edited by doormouse on 03-22-2009 at 10:31:31 PM
Reply to doormouse

By the time I'm ready to purchase mine (summer.. i know.. i;m being obcessive...) the np8662 might be a very good option for me. right now they're on pre orders, so by the time this summer hits they should have the price lower, getting ready for the next upgrade.

Congratz on your win. and i pray it be a loyal best friend for many years to come.

Reply to Dewskerz
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SAGER NP8660 would be an excellent option

http://www.xoticpc.com/sager-np866 [...] -2564.html

Excellent specs with very good price

Reply to Maziar
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why not asus look it this one
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6834220405
me i like that laptop

Reply to h0devil
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Thats a good choice too but the SAGER NP8660 has better graphics.

Reply to Maziar

If you are looking for gaming laptop, why don't you check this out:

http://www.laptopforgames.com

It lists most popular gaming laptops for your reference, by price

Reply to maldinilovegame

maldinilovegame wrote :

If you are looking for gaming laptop, why don't you check this out:

http://www.laptopforgames.com

It lists most popular gaming laptops for your reference, by price



That site is really quite inaccurate and outdated. I wouldn't go by it at all.

------------------------------ Sager NP5793 | T8100 2.1GHz | 4GB DDR2-667 | 8800mGTX 512MB | 320GB 5400rpm | 1920x1200 17", 24" | Win 7 x64
Reply to frozenlead

Everything is from official website. Coz I found no website do such comparing.

Every person judge by themselves. If you don't like it, you can leave it or give specific reasons or give better suggestions.

Reply to maldinilovegame

maldinilovegame wrote :


Every person judge by themselves. If you don't like it, you can leave it or give specific reasons or give better suggestions.



Sure, but in this case, the numbers are just wrong..
If I'm searching for a notebook for less money, I'd want to see all vendors, not just a few. Only Dell, HP, Toshiba, Lenovo (when was the last time anyone ever recommended those for gaming?), and Acer are on there. No Asus, MSI, Sager? Sure, Sager isn't exactly mainstream (and if you want a cheap but powerful notebook, who cares what's mainstream!), but Asus and MSI are well known for cheap, high performance notebooks. (Asus especially with their BA dual 4870 models) The notebooks on the site have GPUs like the 8800GTX, the 9800GTX, and dual 8700's, which are all actually quite outdated (though they'll still give a punch, they won't be the best for the money, in general). I only saw one notebook there that, if, given the position, I would actually buy, and I still didn't like the idea of it.

------------------------------ Sager NP5793 | T8100 2.1GHz | 4GB DDR2-667 | 8800mGTX 512MB | 320GB 5400rpm | 1920x1200 17", 24" | Win 7 x64
Reply to frozenlead

Thank you for giving suggestions !

The website is just trying to make suggestions and but it's you who make the decisions.

Not all people are extrem gamers like you and some will care about the brand, service or other issues. For me, I'm a gamer but I bought a HP for its fancy looking and quality. I know I'm a student more than just a gamer and most people are just like me.

BTW, the website www.laptopforgames.com is updated and it does includes what you want now, MSI, ASUS and more ....

Reply to maldinilovegame

Hi

Came across this thread as I was looking for reviews on the sager 8662. I too think this is the only option for a 15" gaming laptop. Just wondering if I can hook this up to a 23-24" monitor...is that possible?

Reply to collectedsoul

collectedsoul wrote :

Hi

Came across this thread as I was looking for reviews on the sager 8662. I too think this is the only option for a 15" gaming laptop. Just wondering if I can hook this up to a 23-24" monitor...is that possible?



The laptop has both HDMI and DVI outputs, so yep.

------------------------------ LAPTOP: Sager NP5760|T7200|2gb DDR2-667| 100gb 7200rpm HDD| 512mb 7950GTX|17'' WUXGA

Desktop: Core2 E7200 | Corsair 2gb DDR2-800 | Gigabyte EP35-DS3L | 250gb Seagate Barracuda | MSI GTX260 (192 SP) | Corsair VX550 | Antec 300 case
Reply to lostandwandering

lostandwandering wrote :

The laptop has both HDMI and DVI outputs, so yep.



Thanks. That would be truly awesome...mmm...

Reply to collectedsoul
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maldinilovegame wrote :

If you are looking for gaming laptop, why don't you check this out:

http://www.laptopforgames.com

It lists most popular gaming laptops for your reference, by price




SAGERNP8662 is the most powerful 15" laptop in the world right now, cuz it has the Geforce260m (the second fastest single GPU, just below the 280m)

Reply to kontol
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Actually no,u forgot Mobility HD 4850 :) it has the same performance of a GTX 260M, even in some games it equals/beats a GTX 280M too.

Reply to Maziar

Maziar wrote :

Actually no,u forgot Mobility HD 4850 :) it has the same performance of a GTX 260M, even in some games it equals/beats a GTX 280M too.



Yah. The HD 4800's are often ignored, which is a shame. They are strong performing cards, but only a few people actually bother to use them in laptops. Asus and Arima are about the only two. Clevo pretty much has a deal with NVidia.

------------------------------ LAPTOP: Sager NP5760|T7200|2gb DDR2-667| 100gb 7200rpm HDD| 512mb 7950GTX|17'' WUXGA

Desktop: Core2 E7200 | Corsair 2gb DDR2-800 | Gigabyte EP35-DS3L | 250gb Seagate Barracuda | MSI GTX260 (192 SP) | Corsair VX550 | Antec 300 case
Reply to lostandwandering
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sure, but are they offered in a 15" laptop? because we are talking about 15" laptops right now. not the 17". With the 17", none can beat dual GTX 280m. But in the 15", 260m is the best u can get. And only SagerNP8662 offers it.

Reply to kontol
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wrong ^
In 17" 2 HD 4870s perform like 2 GTX 280Ms and sometimes they even beat it.
And a mobility HD 4850 performs like a GTX 260M,and it even sometimes outperforms both GTX 260M/GTX 280M.

Reply to Maziar
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so is there a 15" laptop that has a HD 4850 video card?

Reply to kontol
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This is proof Notebookcheck website is faulty.
You claim that according to this website, ATi HD4850 is faster than GTX 260m.
Well, if you also follow this website, the GTX9800m beats the Ati HD4850 in 2/4 tests (3dmark05, and 3dmark06). So does that make the GTX9800m equal to AtiHD4850? (even though we all know that GTX 260m is way better than GTX 9800m)

Reply to kontol
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Ati HD4850 is only better than GTX9800m in 3dmark01 & 3dmark03, but is worst in 3dmark05 & 3dmark06. Therefore, according to this website, since u follow this website like a Holy Book, GTX9800m should be better than AtiHD4850.
here is ur website, double check it:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobil [...] 844.0.html

This is funny, because this proofs that this website is faulty in their testing. Because the GTX260m outperforms in every category in other websites, with the same testings.

Reply to kontol

kontol wrote :

Ati HD4850 is only better than GTX9800m in 3dmark01 & 3dmark03, but is worst in 3dmark05 & 3dmark06. Therefore, according to this website, since u follow this website like a Holy Book, GTX9800m should be better than AtiHD4850.
here is ur website, double check it:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobil [...] 844.0.html

This is funny, because this proofs that this website is faulty in their testing. Because the GTX260m outperforms in every category in other websites, with the same testings.



See my reply in the other thread. Take your fanboyism outside and look at something other than a synthetic benchmark.

------------------------------ LAPTOP: Sager NP5760|T7200|2gb DDR2-667| 100gb 7200rpm HDD| 512mb 7950GTX|17'' WUXGA

Desktop: Core2 E7200 | Corsair 2gb DDR2-800 | Gigabyte EP35-DS3L | 250gb Seagate Barracuda | MSI GTX260 (192 SP) | Corsair VX550 | Antec 300 case
Reply to lostandwandering
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So it seems u haven't read any reviews :) ATI mobility HD 4850 is like a desktop HD 4830 which is a solid performer and it performs pretty much like GTX 260M and even outperforms both GTX 260M/GTX 280M in some games.

Plus we don't have anything called GTX9800M, we have GTX 280M and 9800MGTX

Reply to Maziar
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ok, back to my original statement, I originally stated that the Sager NP8622 is the most powerful 15" laptop in the world, because you can configure it to have Core2 T9900 3.02Ghz, and the GTX 260m.
Then u claim that the HD4850 is better than 260m, ok.
So i ask u, is there a 15" laptop with HD4850.
That is my question, because if there is, then that would make it the best 15" laptop, according to your claims, am i right?

Reply to kontol
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Nope the best 15" laptop is currently the SAGER NP8662,there isn't any 15" laptop with a HD 4850 yet

Reply to Maziar

Sager Desktop Gaming Computer - NP8662 is good but the best available option according to me would be:
Alienware Area 51 gaming desktop series
Alienware Aurora gaming desktop series

I like Alienware ALX X58 gaming computer the most just look out for it.


Message edited by gamemaniac on 07-01-2009 at 01:50:52 PM
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Reply to gamemaniac
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gamemaniac did u even read the thread ? the OP is asking about a 15" laptop and u are talking about AW desktops ?

Reply to Maziar
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if i were you, i'd buy a cheap-ass laptop for $700 or so and use it for everyday stuff, and i'd get a powerful desktop for around $1200. that way I'd have two comps, far more gaming power out of hte desktop, and save myself some cash.

I bought a second laptop for gaming, and like you RTS is my main focus, and i've lived to regret that decision.

But there's no way you can expect laptops to really keep up in 3v3 or 4v4 games with massive battles on something like Company of HEroes unless u compromise on settings. Or pay massive amounts. U could build urself a cheap light/portable 19" LCD monitor + a decent desktop that easily outclasses any gaming laptop for around £600 in the UK.

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