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15" gaming laptop... any real choices?

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March 22, 2009 6:03:51 AM

Looking for a good 15" gaming laptop... Sager NP8662 seems to be the best/only hit. Anyone want to give props to MSI or any other companies out there? I haven't found much in the same quality range (Clevo base is a plus)...

And if the 8662 is a taker, does anybody have an opinion on buying from XoticPC as opposed to getting a computer right off Sager's website? The minimal Warranty extension is the only difference (same price).

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Budget: <= 2500 USD
Purpose: Desktop Replacement = dedicated graphics card
Uses: current and future RTS's (Starcraft 2), hobby photo manipulation, general media
Length of use: as long as possible. Once the games surpass it, I still want to be able to use it. Upgradability is a definite factor.

Monitor: 15.4" 1680x or 1920x
HDD: 500GB preferably, which makes 5200rpm the only choice... right?
RAM: >=4GB, DDR3 preferable
CPU: Intel, >= 2.66GHz (25W preferable)

Battery Life: >=2hrs, the longer the better

Vendors: Any reputable website or store

Other: Fan noise is a factor; I don't want this thing to levitate or turn my desk into a giant gyroscope.

Where:
USA


I appreciate the help!

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March 22, 2009 6:36:20 AM

I've been reading some reviews for the MSI rigs, they don't like how floppy the machine feels, and also the keyboard is cramped and arranged poorly, making typing very difficult and frustrating. If you're interested in making the computer last for some time, or want to do anything more then gaming, I would not recommend MSI.

I have not done a ton of research on Sager, they can be slightly more difficult to find information about, from the little time i have put into it, but i can't really find anything bad written about their laptops. And when it comes to customer service, people have less bad things to say about them then Dell or HP (but every company naturally has terrible reviews for some weird reason, lol).

I'm trying to find a good, reliable, versatile, and portable gaming rig aswell. If my budget was higher like yours I would get an Alienware Area-51 m15x, those laptops are gorgeous in every way. But if you don't mind getting a 16 incher, HP has recently released upgrades for their video cards. Their Pavilion DV6T has a very modest 1gb ATI radeon 4650, and for signifigantly less then the alienware. From the durability, price, and reliability standpoint, I'm probably going to go with that HP, but my budget is 1,500; if it was 2,500 like yours, i'd get an alienware no question.
March 22, 2009 7:31:31 AM

Thanks, but I'll pass on the alienware. Checking out the specs finds it rather lacking and absurdly overpriced.

Sager is a solid company, been around for ages and the specific notebook I'm looking at is built on a Clevo platform; it's got my trust :-)

The HP HDX16t seems decent, for the price it's really solid. I totally dig the sound system on it :-p HP bloatware sucks anyhow...
But the video card and DDR2 RAM fall short of the Sager... seems like it's still top dog for me.

Thanks dewskerz, good luck in your hunt.
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March 22, 2009 8:42:00 AM

dewskerz:
BTW, the Sager NP8662 can definitely fit in your price range; mess around with the specs and I'm sure you'll find something that works. Check out the NP2096 too.


Comments, anyone else??
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March 22, 2009 5:01:50 PM

Having owned a Sager laptop, I would recommend them. I never had to deal with customer service, but the NP5760 I bought is rock solid so that's probably why. As far as 15'' gaming systems, I don't think you will find a better product out there. Honestly, I would just purchase direct from Sager (what I did). I've heard some iffy things about xotic and if there is no price difference, then what's it matter.
March 22, 2009 8:30:37 PM

lostandwandering:
Rock on, thanks for the feedback. Sager for the win!

Anyone else deal with Xotic? I have heard mixed reviews also....
March 23, 2009 6:42:06 AM

By the time I'm ready to purchase mine (summer.. i know.. i;m being obcessive...) the np8662 might be a very good option for me. right now they're on pre orders, so by the time this summer hits they should have the price lower, getting ready for the next upgrade.

Congratz on your win. and i pray it be a loyal best friend for many years to come.
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March 24, 2009 10:08:23 AM

Thats a good choice too but the SAGER NP8660 has better graphics.
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May 27, 2009 7:36:49 PM

maldinilovegame said:
If you are looking for gaming laptop, why don't you check this out:

http://www.laptopforgames.com

It lists most popular gaming laptops for your reference, by price


That site is really quite inaccurate and outdated. I wouldn't go by it at all.
May 28, 2009 12:20:31 AM

Everything is from official website. Coz I found no website do such comparing.

Every person judge by themselves. If you don't like it, you can leave it or give specific reasons or give better suggestions.
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May 28, 2009 2:41:08 AM

maldinilovegame said:

Every person judge by themselves. If you don't like it, you can leave it or give specific reasons or give better suggestions.


Sure, but in this case, the numbers are just wrong..
If I'm searching for a notebook for less money, I'd want to see all vendors, not just a few. Only Dell, HP, Toshiba, Lenovo (when was the last time anyone ever recommended those for gaming?), and Acer are on there. No Asus, MSI, Sager? Sure, Sager isn't exactly mainstream (and if you want a cheap but powerful notebook, who cares what's mainstream!), but Asus and MSI are well known for cheap, high performance notebooks. (Asus especially with their BA dual 4870 models) The notebooks on the site have GPUs like the 8800GTX, the 9800GTX, and dual 8700's, which are all actually quite outdated (though they'll still give a punch, they won't be the best for the money, in general). I only saw one notebook there that, if, given the position, I would actually buy, and I still didn't like the idea of it.
June 5, 2009 4:12:57 PM

Thank you for giving suggestions !

The website is just trying to make suggestions and but it's you who make the decisions.

Not all people are extrem gamers like you and some will care about the brand, service or other issues. For me, I'm a gamer but I bought a HP for its fancy looking and quality. I know I'm a student more than just a gamer and most people are just like me.

BTW, the website www.laptopforgames.com is updated and it does includes what you want now, MSI, ASUS and more ....
June 7, 2009 9:09:57 PM

Hi

Came across this thread as I was looking for reviews on the sager 8662. I too think this is the only option for a 15" gaming laptop. Just wondering if I can hook this up to a 23-24" monitor...is that possible?
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June 7, 2009 9:38:37 PM

collectedsoul said:
Hi

Came across this thread as I was looking for reviews on the sager 8662. I too think this is the only option for a 15" gaming laptop. Just wondering if I can hook this up to a 23-24" monitor...is that possible?


The laptop has both HDMI and DVI outputs, so yep.
June 8, 2009 11:29:41 AM

lostandwandering said:
The laptop has both HDMI and DVI outputs, so yep.


Thanks. That would be truly awesome...mmm...
June 27, 2009 7:59:37 PM

maldinilovegame said:
If you are looking for gaming laptop, why don't you check this out:

http://www.laptopforgames.com

It lists most popular gaming laptops for your reference, by price



SAGERNP8662 is the most powerful 15" laptop in the world right now, cuz it has the Geforce260m (the second fastest single GPU, just below the 280m)
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June 28, 2009 7:35:31 AM

Actually no,u forgot Mobility HD 4850 :)  it has the same performance of a GTX 260M, even in some games it equals/beats a GTX 280M too.
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June 28, 2009 8:20:25 PM

Maziar said:
Actually no,u forgot Mobility HD 4850 :)  it has the same performance of a GTX 260M, even in some games it equals/beats a GTX 280M too.


Yah. The HD 4800's are often ignored, which is a shame. They are strong performing cards, but only a few people actually bother to use them in laptops. Asus and Arima are about the only two. Clevo pretty much has a deal with NVidia.
June 28, 2009 8:51:06 PM

sure, but are they offered in a 15" laptop? because we are talking about 15" laptops right now. not the 17". With the 17", none can beat dual GTX 280m. But in the 15", 260m is the best u can get. And only SagerNP8662 offers it.
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June 29, 2009 8:16:13 AM

wrong ^
In 17" 2 HD 4870s perform like 2 GTX 280Ms and sometimes they even beat it.
And a mobility HD 4850 performs like a GTX 260M,and it even sometimes outperforms both GTX 260M/GTX 280M.
June 30, 2009 3:38:44 PM

so is there a 15" laptop that has a HD 4850 video card?
June 30, 2009 4:29:46 PM

This is proof Notebookcheck website is faulty.
You claim that according to this website, ATi HD4850 is faster than GTX 260m.
Well, if you also follow this website, the GTX9800m beats the Ati HD4850 in 2/4 tests (3dmark05, and 3dmark06). So does that make the GTX9800m equal to AtiHD4850? (even though we all know that GTX 260m is way better than GTX 9800m)
June 30, 2009 4:35:20 PM

Ati HD4850 is only better than GTX9800m in 3dmark01 & 3dmark03, but is worst in 3dmark05 & 3dmark06. Therefore, according to this website, since u follow this website like a Holy Book, GTX9800m should be better than AtiHD4850.
here is ur website, double check it:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benc...

This is funny, because this proofs that this website is faulty in their testing. Because the GTX260m outperforms in every category in other websites, with the same testings.
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June 30, 2009 5:38:14 PM

kontol said:
Ati HD4850 is only better than GTX9800m in 3dmark01 & 3dmark03, but is worst in 3dmark05 & 3dmark06. Therefore, according to this website, since u follow this website like a Holy Book, GTX9800m should be better than AtiHD4850.
here is ur website, double check it:

http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Graphics-Cards-Benc...

This is funny, because this proofs that this website is faulty in their testing. Because the GTX260m outperforms in every category in other websites, with the same testings.


See my reply in the other thread. Take your fanboyism outside and look at something other than a synthetic benchmark.
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June 30, 2009 6:03:04 PM

So it seems u haven't read any reviews :)  ATI mobility HD 4850 is like a desktop HD 4830 which is a solid performer and it performs pretty much like GTX 260M and even outperforms both GTX 260M/GTX 280M in some games.

Plus we don't have anything called GTX9800M, we have GTX 280M and 9800MGTX
June 30, 2009 6:15:33 PM

ok, back to my original statement, I originally stated that the Sager NP8622 is the most powerful 15" laptop in the world, because you can configure it to have Core2 T9900 3.02Ghz, and the GTX 260m.
Then u claim that the HD4850 is better than 260m, ok.
So i ask u, is there a 15" laptop with HD4850.
That is my question, because if there is, then that would make it the best 15" laptop, according to your claims, am i right?
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June 30, 2009 6:30:41 PM

Nope the best 15" laptop is currently the SAGER NP8662,there isn't any 15" laptop with a HD 4850 yet
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July 1, 2009 4:03:58 PM

gamemaniac did u even read the thread ? the OP is asking about a 15" laptop and u are talking about AW desktops ?
July 1, 2009 9:50:57 PM

if i were you, i'd buy a cheap-ass laptop for $700 or so and use it for everyday stuff, and i'd get a powerful desktop for around $1200. that way I'd have two comps, far more gaming power out of hte desktop, and save myself some cash.

I bought a second laptop for gaming, and like you RTS is my main focus, and i've lived to regret that decision.

But there's no way you can expect laptops to really keep up in 3v3 or 4v4 games with massive battles on something like Company of HEroes unless u compromise on settings. Or pay massive amounts. U could build urself a cheap light/portable 19" LCD monitor + a decent desktop that easily outclasses any gaming laptop for around £600 in the UK.
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