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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 7:04:01 PM

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This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us some
concern.
We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has WinXPsp2.
We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private websites
(financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of the programs we
were using (Quicken security, etc.).
Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior to
our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able to see
the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
Please advise and thank you for any help.

More about : stupid question

Anonymous
July 6, 2005 7:34:02 PM

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You are correct, if someone was to perform a system restore most of the
information would again be viewable, most cookies will have expired on the
computer which would prevent anyone from accessing user verified services
such as an online bank account but the websites would still be viewable
through the favourites, if this is still an issue please follow the steps
below.

Log on to the laptop using the default user name.

Click on start, point to the control panel. Click user accounts (pick the
control panel icon "user accounts")

Now click "Create a user account"

Give the new account an appropriate name and click next

Set the account type as an administrator

Now log off the current user and log back on to the account you just created

Click on start, point to the control panel.
(pick the control panel icon "user accounts")

Pick the old account under the "pick an account to change" header

Now click delete the account.

This new user will have its own profile with different favourites and a
different browser cache; there is a finial step which will prevent any users
from restoring the computer.

Click,
start> all programmes >accessories >system tools
>>system restore

Create a new restore point then close the application.

Click,
start> all programmes >accessories >system tools
>>Disk clean up

under the “more options� tab look for the system restore option (near the
bottom) click clean up.


And you’re done! I hope this has been of use to you, if you have any
questions of queries please feel free to contact me.





"AliceZ" wrote:

> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us some
> concern.
> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has WinXPsp2.
> We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private websites
> (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of the programs we
> were using (Quicken security, etc.).
> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior to
> our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able to see
> the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
> Please advise and thank you for any help.
Anonymous
July 6, 2005 11:14:26 PM

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AliceZ wrote:
> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us some
> concern.
> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has WinXPsp2.
> We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private websites
> (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of the programs we
> were using (Quicken security, etc.).
> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior to
> our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able to see
> the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
> Please advise and thank you for any help.


He won't be able to use System Restore to get at you personal data, as
System Restore deals only with system files. However, nothing that
you've mentioned indicates that you've taken any real precautions at all
to protect your personal data. Did you carefully seek out and delete
each and every data file on the hard drive? Did you delete all of the
hundreds of hidden temporary Internet files from each user profile? Did
you then empty the Recycle Bin? And did you defrag the hard drive in an
effort to over-write sensitive data?

To protect your personal information and data from any future users
of average skills, you should, at the very least, format the hard drive
and reinstall only the OS and those applications whose licenses are to
be included in the transfer. If you wish to do a more thorough job of
protecting your personal data, WipeDrive 2.2.1
(http://www.accessdata.com/Product07_Overview.htm?Produc...) meets
U.S. DoD standards for securely cleaning surplus unclassified hard
drives, and could be used before formatting and reinstalling the OS and
applications.


--

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Anonymous
July 6, 2005 11:18:21 PM

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Hi Alice,

Your personal files and favourites cannot be recovered through system restore. System restore only
helps in undo-ing changes to certain system and program files. More description about the System
restore feature in Windows XP here:

Microsoft Windows XP-System restore
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Window...

Though, deleted files can be recovered through other freely available programs. You should have
probably formatted the hard drive before giving your laptop away.

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"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:317976A4-5B46-44C6-ABC9-7F5C76122D25@microsoft.com...
> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us some
> concern.
> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has WinXPsp2.
> We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private websites
> (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of the programs we
> were using (Quicken security, etc.).
> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior to
> our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able to see
> the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
> Please advise and thank you for any help.
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 2:08:39 AM

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AliceZ wrote:

> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us
> some concern.
> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has
> WinXPsp2. We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of
> private websites (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted
> all of the programs we were using (Quicken security, etc.).
> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior to
> our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able to
> see the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
> Please advise and thank you for any help.

no
July 7, 2005 3:15:35 AM

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That's 2 no's and from you 1 yes. I wonder who is right?

"Stuart Vernon" <ox_stu@hotmail.com (donotspam)> wrote in message
news:C9B20513-9196-4691-AE73-ADDACCE363BC@microsoft.com...
You are correct, if someone was to perform a system restore most of the
information would again be viewable, most cookies will have expired on the
computer which would prevent anyone from accessing user verified services
such as an online bank account but the websites would still be viewable
through the favourites, if this is still an issue please follow the steps
below.

Log on to the laptop using the default user name.

Click on start, point to the control panel. Click user accounts (pick the
control panel icon "user accounts")

Now click "Create a user account"

Give the new account an appropriate name and click next

Set the account type as an administrator

Now log off the current user and log back on to the account you just created

Click on start, point to the control panel.
(pick the control panel icon "user accounts")

Pick the old account under the "pick an account to change" header

Now click delete the account.

This new user will have its own profile with different favourites and a
different browser cache; there is a finial step which will prevent any users
from restoring the computer.

Click,
start> all programmes >accessories >system tools
>>system restore

Create a new restore point then close the application.

Click,
start> all programmes >accessories >system tools
>>Disk clean up

under the "more options" tab look for the system restore option (near the
bottom) click clean up.


And you're done! I hope this has been of use to you, if you have any
questions of queries please feel free to contact me.





"AliceZ" wrote:

> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us
> some
> concern.
> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has
> WinXPsp2.
> We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private
> websites
> (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of the programs
> we
> were using (Quicken security, etc.).
> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior to
> our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able to
> see
> the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
> Please advise and thank you for any help.
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 3:15:36 AM

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Hind site is 20/20.

Next time you sell or give a machine away, Reformat and reinstall Windows.

You have no way of deleting all the personal info because you don't know
where it's located.

Even if you knew where all the personal info was, you'd forget to get rid of
something anyway.

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In news:rCZye.143097$VH2.11488@tornado.tampabay.rr.com,
Fred <nospamnot@spammernot.com> hunted and pecked:
> That's 2 no's and from you 1 yes. I wonder who is right?
>
> "Stuart Vernon" <ox_stu@hotmail.com (donotspam)> wrote in message
> news:C9B20513-9196-4691-AE73-ADDACCE363BC@microsoft.com...
> You are correct, if someone was to perform a system restore most of the
> information would again be viewable, most cookies will have expired on the
> computer which would prevent anyone from accessing user verified services
> such as an online bank account but the websites would still be viewable
> through the favourites, if this is still an issue please follow the steps
> below.
>
> Log on to the laptop using the default user name.
>
> Click on start, point to the control panel. Click user accounts (pick the
> control panel icon "user accounts")
>
> Now click "Create a user account"
>
> Give the new account an appropriate name and click next
>
> Set the account type as an administrator
>
> Now log off the current user and log back on to the account you just
> created
>
> Click on start, point to the control panel.
> (pick the control panel icon "user accounts")
>
> Pick the old account under the "pick an account to change" header
>
> Now click delete the account.
>
> This new user will have its own profile with different favourites and a
> different browser cache; there is a finial step which will prevent any
> users from restoring the computer.
>
> Click,
> start> all programmes >accessories >system tools
>>> system restore
>
> Create a new restore point then close the application.
>
> Click,
> start> all programmes >accessories >system tools
>>> Disk clean up
>
> under the "more options" tab look for the system restore option (near the
> bottom) click clean up.
>
>
> And you're done! I hope this has been of use to you, if you have any
> questions of queries please feel free to contact me.
>
>
>
>
>
> "AliceZ" wrote:
>
>> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us
>> some
>> concern.
>> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has
>> WinXPsp2.
>> We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private
>> websites
>> (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of the
>> programs we
>> were using (Quicken security, etc.).
>> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior
>> to our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able
>> to see
>> the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
>> Please advise and thank you for any help.
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 3:15:36 AM

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Fred;
You may wonder, I know.
System Restore does not protect personal data.
The number of yes and no is not relevant since this is not an election.
What is relevant is the facts.
See the link below:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/community/newsgroups/f...
System Restore can also be tested if someone wants to verify what is and is
not monitored.

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"Fred" <nospamnot@spammernot.com> wrote in message
news:rCZye.143097$VH2.11488@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> That's 2 no's and from you 1 yes. I wonder who is right?
July 7, 2005 3:24:01 AM

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This is a GREAT question, not a stupid one.

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"AliceZ" <AliceZ@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:317976A4-5B46-44C6-ABC9-7F5C76122D25@microsoft.com...
> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us
> some
> concern.
> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has
> WinXPsp2.
> We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private
> websites
> (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of the programs
> we
> were using (Quicken security, etc.).
> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior to
> our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able to
> see
> the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
> Please advise and thank you for any help.
July 7, 2005 3:25:48 AM

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Yo Bruce, use PayPal? :o )

--

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Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com



"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:o CBw4EpgFHA.1372@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> AliceZ wrote:
>> This may appear to be a stupid question but it is one that is causing us
>> some concern.
>> We recently gave our friend's young son our old notebook which has
>> WinXPsp2.
>> We deleted our Favorites in IE6 (which had some listings of private
>> websites (financial), with passwords noted, and we also deleted all of
>> the programs we were using (Quicken security, etc.).
>> Now we wonder, if someone goes back and clicks on a Restore point prior
>> to our deletion of those items (Favorites, programs), will they be able
>> to see the Favorites prior to when I deleted them?
>> Please advise and thank you for any help.
>
>
> He won't be able to use System Restore to get at you personal data, as
> System Restore deals only with system files. However, nothing that you've
> mentioned indicates that you've taken any real precautions at all to
> protect your personal data. Did you carefully seek out and delete each
> and every data file on the hard drive? Did you delete all of the hundreds
> of hidden temporary Internet files from each user profile? Did you then
> empty the Recycle Bin? And did you defrag the hard drive in an effort to
> over-write sensitive data?
>
> To protect your personal information and data from any future users of
> average skills, you should, at the very least, format the hard drive and
> reinstall only the OS and those applications whose licenses are to be
> included in the transfer. If you wish to do a more thorough job of
> protecting your personal data, WipeDrive 2.2.1
> (http://www.accessdata.com/Product07_Overview.htm?Produc...) meets
> U.S. DoD standards for securely cleaning surplus unclassified hard drives,
> and could be used before formatting and reinstalling the OS and
> applications.
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
> both at once. - RAH
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 4:59:51 AM

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Stuart Vernon wrote:
> You are correct,

No she's not and, guess what? Neither are you. Did you not read Anando's
post?

Caps for emphasis: - SYSTEM RESTORE HAS NO EFFECT ON PERSONAL DATA FILES.
July 7, 2005 4:59:52 AM

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Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
> Stuart Vernon wrote:
>> You are correct,
>
> No she's not and, guess what? Neither are you. Did you not read
> Anando's post?
>
> Caps for emphasis: - SYSTEM RESTORE HAS NO EFFECT ON PERSONAL DATA
> FILES.

Sarah,when are you going to buy your Mac you were talking about?
If you set up a paypal account I'll gladly donate!

--
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July 7, 2005 4:59:53 AM

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<LOL> Ok, not so funny.....but sorta? :o )

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"MAP" <mikepawlak2REM@OVEhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o j8AG5ogFHA.1444@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Miss Perspicacia Tick wrote:
>> Stuart Vernon wrote:
>>> You are correct,
>>
>> No she's not and, guess what? Neither are you. Did you not read
>> Anando's post?
>>
>> Caps for emphasis: - SYSTEM RESTORE HAS NO EFFECT ON PERSONAL DATA
>> FILES.
>
> Sarah,when are you going to buy your Mac you were talking about?
> If you set up a paypal account I'll gladly donate!
>
> --
> Mike Pawlak
>
>
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 5:06:57 PM

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Caps for emphasis: YOU ARE A USELESS NEWS GROUP PARTICIPANT WITH NOTHING
WORTHWHILE TO CONTRIBUTE.
Got it? Good.


"Miss Perspicacia Tick" <test@test.com> wrote in message
news:3g_ye.467$y86.135@fe03.ams...
> Stuart Vernon wrote:
>> You are correct,
>
> No she's not and, guess what? Neither are you. Did you not read Anando's
> post?
>
> Caps for emphasis: - SYSTEM RESTORE HAS NO EFFECT ON PERSONAL DATA FILES.
>
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 8:11:09 PM

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Kelly wrote:

> This is a GREAT question, not a stupid one.
>
And your contribution is?
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 8:11:10 PM

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Oh the irony! ;-)

NoStop wrote:
> Kelly wrote:
>
>
>>This is a GREAT question, not a stupid one.
>>
>
> And your contribution is?
>
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 9:33:39 PM

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"NoStop" <nostop@stopspam.com> wrote in message
news:xucze.183292$El.111556@pd7tw1no...
> Kelly wrote:
>
>> This is a GREAT question, not a stupid one.
>>
> And your contribution is?
>

It seems to be no less than yours.
Anonymous
July 7, 2005 10:58:51 PM

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Kelly wrote:
> Yo Bruce, use PayPal? :o )
>


Just so I can receive checks for ridiculously small amounts when they
settle class action law suits. ;-}


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July 8, 2005 5:23:05 AM

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<LOL> nah was in uniform to the thread. <w>

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"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
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> Kelly wrote:
>> Yo Bruce, use PayPal? :o )
>>
>
>
> Just so I can receive checks for ridiculously small amounts when they
> settle class action law suits. ;-}
>
>
> --
>
> Bruce Chambers
>
> Help us help you:
> http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>
> You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
> both at once. - RAH
Anonymous
July 8, 2005 12:36:13 PM

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After sticking his head out from his XP firewall, Alan Smith had this to
say:

>
> "NoStop" <nostop@stopspam.com> wrote in message
> news:xucze.183292$El.111556@pd7tw1no...
>> Kelly wrote:
>>
>>> This is a GREAT question, not a stupid one.
>>>
>> And your contribution is?
>>
>
> It seems to be no less than yours.

At least I was the first to answer her, you moron.

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