Question re installing new software on xp

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Hello everybody

I have a question regarding a fresh installation of windows xp.

When I am having installed XP, then it comes to installing various software,
is it necessary to allways do a reboot after each installatoin, even if the
software does not request it.

Most software does not seem to request it, is there any benefit in
rebooting, or conversely can any damage possibly be done by not rebooting
and then reinstalling another software without rebooting for the first one
that doesn't specifically ask for it.

My next question is this.
If I use an image to restore my operating system, is this in any way of a
lesser quality than if I do a manual installation (using the installation xp
disc).

Thanks in advance

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Reboots will be indicated by the application. Some programs load
components that are currently in use by Windows. This precludes
them from being immediately installed. They get queued up, so at
the next boot the files are replaced before the modules get loaded.
I would install until that 1st reboot request and then allow the PC
to be rebooted and not keep installing more applications until you've
satisfied the restart request.

Not really, It (Imaging) preserves the state of the machine at the
time the image is created. If you've spent say 6 hours installing &
customizing setup - An image preserves that work. and allows you
to re-create that in under 10 minutes using restore.

"Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everybody
>
> I have a question regarding a fresh installation of windows xp.
>
> When I am having installed XP, then it comes to installing various
> software, is it necessary to allways do a reboot after each installatoin,
> even if the software does not request it.
>
> Most software does not seem to request it, is there any benefit in
> rebooting, or conversely can any damage possibly be done by not rebooting
> and then reinstalling another software without rebooting for the first one
> that doesn't specifically ask for it.
>
> My next question is this.
> If I use an image to restore my operating system, is this in any way of a
> lesser quality than if I do a manual installation (using the installation
> xp disc).
>
> Thanks in advance
>

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
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No, no, and no

Hi Dave,
So from what you and the other kind man who replied have said, then there
seems to be absolutely no advantage and no benefit and only it appears to be
a waste of time by rebooting after each installation
when hteir is no reboot request?

Do you agree

Thanks for your response

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"Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everybody
>
> I have a question regarding a fresh installation of windows xp.
>
> When I am having installed XP, then it comes to installing various
> software,
> is it necessary to allways do a reboot after each installatoin, even if
> the
> software does not request it.
>
> Most software does not seem to request it, is there any benefit in
> rebooting, or conversely can any damage possibly be done by not rebooting
> and then reinstalling another software without rebooting for the first one
> that doesn't specifically ask for it.
>
> My next question is this.
> If I use an image to restore my operating system, is this in any way of a
> lesser quality than if I do a manual installation (using the installation
> xp
> disc).
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>

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I only reboot if it doesn't work. I ignore requests for rebooting.

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"Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message newsaoa3i$uea$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
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> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
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> No, no, and no
>
> Hi Dave,
> So from what you and the other kind man who replied have said, then there
> seems to be absolutely no advantage and no benefit and only it appears to be
> a waste of time by rebooting after each installation
> when hteir is no reboot request?
>
> Do you agree
>
> Thanks for your response
>
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> "Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
> newsao4jq$q1s$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Hello everybody
>>
>> I have a question regarding a fresh installation of windows xp.
>>
>> When I am having installed XP, then it comes to installing various
>> software,
>> is it necessary to allways do a reboot after each installatoin, even if
>> the
>> software does not request it.
>>
>> Most software does not seem to request it, is there any benefit in
>> rebooting, or conversely can any damage possibly be done by not rebooting
>> and then reinstalling another software without rebooting for the first one
>> that doesn't specifically ask for it.
>>
>> My next question is this.
>> If I use an image to restore my operating system, is this in any way of a
>> lesser quality than if I do a manual installation (using the installation
>> xp
>> disc).
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>
>

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"David Candy" <.> wrote in message
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I only reboot if it doesn't work. I ignore requests for rebooting.

Thanks Dave



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"Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "David Candy" <.> wrote in message
> newsxlhLgGhFHA.3448@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> No, no, and no
>
> Hi Dave,
> So from what you and the other kind man who replied have said, then there
> seems to be absolutely no advantage and no benefit and only it appears to
> be
> a waste of time by rebooting after each installation
> when hteir is no reboot request?
>
> Do you agree
>
> Thanks for your response
>
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> "Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
> newsao4jq$q1s$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Hello everybody
>>
>> I have a question regarding a fresh installation of windows xp.
>>
>> When I am having installed XP, then it comes to installing various
>> software,
>> is it necessary to allways do a reboot after each installatoin, even if
>> the
>> software does not request it.
>>
>> Most software does not seem to request it, is there any benefit in
>> rebooting, or conversely can any damage possibly be done by not rebooting
>> and then reinstalling another software without rebooting for the first
>> one
>> that doesn't specifically ask for it.
>>
>> My next question is this.
>> If I use an image to restore my operating system, is this in any way of a
>> lesser quality than if I do a manual installation (using the installation
>> xp
>> disc).
>>
>> Thanks in advance
>>
>>
>
>

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Unfortunately, there are some programs that tend to lock up if a reboot is
needed and you don't do it in a timely fashion.

An example I have run into while servicing customers machines:

A person installs a program that needs a reboot. But, because they are in
the middle of something else, they don't do so when notified. Then, at a
later time, they decide to clean out their temp folder - before the
necessary reboot (don't laugh, I have one customer who almost makes my car
payments for me by doing this). Now they reboot. Guess what? The program
doesn't complete the install and is now "broken".

You may not be able to uninstall the program because the install was never
finished. You can not reinstall because the installer tells you that an
earlier install was detected and asks "Do you want to uninstall the earlier
version"? But you can't. You already tried that. (-:

At this point you are in for some heavy registry editing to try to clear the
problem.

BTW, I have seen this a few times with Microsoft Office (various versions).

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Richard Urban

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"Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
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> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm a little slow this morning, so bear with me. I meant that if I had
>> 6 programs to install I would do each in order until one completes
>> with a message to reboot. This is because continuing to install may
>> overwrite some of the Boot time operations for the 1st app that
>> requested a reboot. In other words, the 2nd reboot request may
>> replace a batch or command such as a Registry key called RunOnce.
>> So when you do reboot Application #1 may not get it's code
>> replaced properly.
>
> Hi there!
> Thanks for such a detailed reply which I've read with interest. Seems a
> good reason to err on the side of caution. If for example this happened,
> would it be possible to uninstall and reinstall it to complete solve any
> issues or any danger of an issue.
>
> I'm trying to do my installations with the minimum risk of getting
> anything wrong. So if for example something happened that made me feel the
> application hadn't been installed properly, does uninstalling and then
> reinstalling in anyway damage the system or should it be as good as before
> it was installed?
>
>>
>> Yes, that second answer was ambiguous. An Image Restore is the
>> same as doing a Step-by-Step Install and customize.
>
> Thanks for that clarification.
>>
>>
>> "Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
>> newsaoa0v$2i6$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>
>>> "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> wrote in message
>>> news:u7BCyhGhFHA.2700@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>> Reboots will be indicated by the application. Some programs load
>>>> components that are currently in use by Windows. This precludes
>>>> them from being immediately installed. They get queued up, so at
>>>> the next boot the files are replaced before the modules get loaded.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I would install until that 1st reboot request and then allow the PC
>>>> to be rebooted and not keep installing more applications until you've
>>>> satisfied the restart request.
>>>
>>> Hi, do you mean "I would NOT" install until that 1rst reboot request?
>>> And may I know the reason
>>> why you would not keep installing more applications until you've
>>> satisfied the restart request? I mean what is the
>>> technical reason for doing this? Is it somehow more likely to cause an
>>> error by having this "files waiting" in a que?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Not really, It (Imaging) preserves the state of the machine at the
>>>> time the image is created. If you've spent say 6 hours installing &
>>>> customizing setup - An image preserves that work. and allows you
>>>> to re-create that in under 10 minutes using restore.
>>>
>>>
>>> So when you say "Not really", is that meaning "almost the same".
>>>
>>> many thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> newsao4jq$q1s$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>>>>> Hello everybody
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a question regarding a fresh installation of windows xp.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I am having installed XP, then it comes to installing various
>>>>> software, is it necessary to allways do a reboot after each
>>>>> installatoin, even if the software does not request it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most software does not seem to request it, is there any benefit in
>>>>> rebooting, or conversely can any damage possibly be done by not
>>>>> rebooting and then reinstalling another software without rebooting for
>>>>> the first one that doesn't specifically ask for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> My next question is this.
>>>>> If I use an image to restore my operating system, is this in any way
>>>>> of a lesser quality than if I do a manual installation (using the
>>>>> installation xp disc).
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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"Alexis" <alexis@privatemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hello everybody
>
> I have a question regarding a fresh installation of windows xp.
>
> When I am having installed XP, then it comes to installing various
software,
> is it necessary to allways do a reboot after each installatoin, even if
the
> software does not request it.

If the software is/are drivers specific to the PC, yes, reboot afterwards.
Sometimes a reboot is needed to incorporate some drivers, then the remaining
drivers can be installed, and another reboot is needed.

Some application software is mixed with drivers, like for a tape drive. In
this case, a reboot is needed to access the tape drive, if XP could not find
the tape drive originally. Just an example.
>
> Most software does not seem to request it, is there any benefit in
> rebooting, or conversely can any damage possibly be done by not rebooting
> and then reinstalling another software without rebooting for the first one
> that doesn't specifically ask for it.
>

Changes in the registry are made at boot time in XP. If a subsequent update
to the application software is made, and means deletions, reassignments, and
additions in the registry, by all means reboot. As an example, install NAV
from CD, then go to their website for updates and install them. Office is
another.

> My next question is this.
> If I use an image to restore my operating system, is this in any way of a
> lesser quality than if I do a manual installation (using the installation
xp
> disc).
>

If the imaging program was designed to work in an XP environment, the result
should be identical when the image is restored. The benefit is the great
reduction of time usage of a new manuall installation vs. a restore of same
using an imaging restoration.

> Thanks in advance
>
>

And a quesiton you didn't ask, does it hurt to reboot after installation of
any software? No.