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Samsung 226BW Now with an "R"?

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April 16, 2007 10:35:40 PM

I ordered the 226BW from Newegg the other day and got my invoice today (the monitor is in transit). The invoice states that I am getting a "Samsung 226BW R". Now the "R" normally means refurbished, but the one I ordered is supposed to be new (and I can't believe Newegg would not disclose that it was shipping refurbished models).

Thoughts? Are we looking at an addition to the lineup of "A", "C" and "S"?

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April 18, 2007 3:22:00 PM

I have been torn about whether to buy this monitor or not. Everything I read about it fits what I am looking for in a monitor and I have a Samsung LCD32' Tv I love. My problem is getting over this Panle A issue. I am looking at newegg for whatevr LCD i buy so I would really like to know how your Samsung226w is working. What panel did you get? Any problems or issues with Newegg?

Thanks for any info...
April 18, 2007 4:52:01 PM

From what I saw the "R" come right in between the model name 226 BW and the "lottery result" A or S...that is when you will receive it it will probably be:
226BW R S or 226BW R A.
Please let me know if my assumption is correct.
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April 18, 2007 5:35:21 PM

Is there a significant difference noticed between the S and A versions or are people more just upset cuz they are buying the name Samsung but might not be getting a true Samsung product? Im considering getting the 206bw and this is my only drawback
April 18, 2007 5:52:55 PM

here are two reviews I found on Newegg that are very interesting about this LCD. It seesm to me that the 'A' is simply an average LCD panel compared to the 'S' panel. Now since I believe that Samsung makes panels for ViewSonic, I am wondering if a version of this 'A' panel is what they are sending out for models like:

ViewSonic Graphic Series VG2230wm Black 22"

Juts a thought. Anyway if you are like me and must use the net to get an LCD, this creates a dilema.



Customer review 1:

S is the quality Samsung panel while A is the new cheap version meant to cut costs for Samsung. All the initial reviews were done with the S panel before it was phased out. The reviews will look good because its a different product. Now all the new monitors are manufactured with the cheap cornercutting A-panel. A pretty sneaky move by Samsung. Unless you buy a monitor that has sat in a warehouse for months, you will wind up with the A-panel.

Customer review 2:

Pros: I purchased several top-line 20-24" LCDs (locally so could return) to try the past few weeks, incl the 204B. The 226BW (S-panel) blew them all away. Night & day difference from all others I tried - nice sharp, clear BLACK text, good colors. I'm a 50y/o w bad eyes doing mostly web, email & business apps. Text stays legible even while fast-scrolling or dragging the window around desktop. All the others "shimmered". 5 stars for the S panel running here for a week - nothing else came close. (No drivers/software installed for any - Radeon 9600 256mb GDDR, XP-pro 32, AMD 1900+) I wanted the 244tBW for higher res & features, but no retailers had one to try - I was afraid it might not have as good image as the 226BW - S, so decided not to chance it. (BTW: they all looked somewhat better on DVI than VGA) The stand is good quality, but no height adjustment.

Cons: I ordered a 226BW here Sat - arrived today. A-panel from NJ warehouse. This unit is about as good as some of the others I tried, but night & day to the "S" running side by side comparison - also swapped DVI between them to confirm not problem DVI v VGA - same results. Not quite as crisp/sharp image - blurry spots. Most text shades of blue, not jet black, completely different coloring even on desktop background. I'm not a gamer or graphics guy, so didn't try those. Neither has dead pixels, bleeding/backlight problems, banding etc that I can tell. 4 stars compared to others I tried, but only 1 star compared to "S" panel. I have a riser for mine, but it sits too low if you have it on your desk. You can get a really good stand for it at S__les for under thirty bucks so not an issue.

Other Thoughts: Ran a google search on the A vs S contoversy - there's tons of threads out there about it, but none that I read had done a side by side comparison. From what I see in front of me, these two monitors look the same out of the box, but in use are two completely different products being marketed indiscriminately as the same model by Samsung. One is "superb", the other "average". If I wanted to order by "lottery" (luck of the draw), I'd buy a PowerBall ticket. Samsung's monitors sell for a premium. I find what they are doing with this model inexcuseable & will be calling customer service about this problem tomorrow. Hopefully, they will take it back & confront Samsung about it.
April 18, 2007 7:19:38 PM

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here are two reviews I found on Newegg that are very interesting about this LCD. It seesm to me that the 'A' is simply an average LCD panel compared to the 'S' panel. Now since I believe that Samsung makes panels for ViewSonic, I am wondering if a version of this 'A' panel is what they are sending out for models like:

ViewSonic Graphic Series VG2230wm Black 22"



Dude this is old news. And Samsung does not manufacter the A panels only the S panel. The consus is that the S panels are better but I have not seen enough proof of this only people's opinions that do not do side by side comparisions.

Check out the numerous other threads about the A and S.

For the record, the one I looked at did not have any R in there only an "A".

Just phone up newegg and ask about the R...

-Deuce-
May 7, 2007 9:08:09 AM

Quote:
I ordered the 226BW from Newegg the other day and got my invoice today (the monitor is in transit). The invoice states that I am getting a "Samsung 226BW R". Now the "R" normally means refurbished, but the one I ordered is supposed to be new (and I can't believe Newegg would not disclose that it was shipping refurbished models).

Thoughts? Are we looking at an addition to the lineup of "A", "C" and "S"?


Maybe your just not looking at the right letter.
All models look like this
226BW [R] A or
226BW [R] S or
226BW [R] C
For a good comparison check this out.

There have been reports of people having an
226BW [R] -blank-
model, and that would be very interesting. So tell us which model is yours.
May 8, 2007 12:08:05 AM

Jagger you are a fellow believer!!!!!!


This sucks I realy was thinking about buying this moniter, then I hear about this.
June 15, 2007 4:36:25 PM

I have just bought my syncmaster 226bw a few days ago, i checked inside the store to see if it was a "A" or "S" version, but when i looked for the letters i saw nothing there at all, only a [R] *blank* as mentioned before.

pics:

Label

Service Menu

I dont have a clue where my monitor stands at the moment :?
a c 195 C Monitor
a b Ô Samsung
June 16, 2007 8:50:51 PM

Quote:
I have just bought my syncmaster 226bw a few days ago, i checked inside the store to see if it was a "A" or "S" version, but when i looked for the letters i saw nothing there at all, only a [R] *blank* as mentioned before.

pics:

Label

Service Menu

I dont have a clue where my monitor stands at the moment :?


I think it's Samsung's new strategy of dealing with people who are complaining about the three different panels used to make the 226BW.

The label clearly excludes the S, A, C designation and apparently the service menu gives you a version number that probably Samsung own code to identify the panel used.

It seems now the only way to determine if the panel is S, A, or C is by taking apart the LCD monitor itself and examining the panel inside. Thus, effectively voiding your warranty.

I'd say give up on the 226BW. It's not worth the trouble trying to get the S panel anymore. The rumor about a forth panel being used from CPT will make getting the S panel even harder. Supposedly CPT's panel quality is even lower than CheMie's C panel.

One way to check if you have the C panel is by turning on the 226BW in a darkroom and a black screen. Then look if you can see a faint image of a large captial H on it's side. See the following link:

http://www.behardware.com/medias/photos_news/00/20/IMG0...

Another way is to look at a white background. The C panel tends to have a slight bluish hue.

Other than that I can't really think of a way short of ripping apart the monitor to physically examine the panel itself.

That's all the help I can give. I'm currently a Planar PX191 that about 4 years old, and I plan on either upgrading to a 24" or 26" LCD.
June 20, 2007 7:36:31 PM

AND THIS IS NEWEGG!!!
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