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Anonymous
July 10, 2005 4:43:00 AM

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I have a spare disk which used to have Windows 98SE on it. I reformatted
the disk, as a single large 'basic' partition, by downloading the
manufacturers installation software and reformatting the disk with the
manufacturers installation software. I added the disk to my PC and ran
'disk management'. To my surprise 'disk management' is offering to let
me make the partition on the second disk 'active'. This disk does not
have an OS on it anymore. Device Manager - Properties - Volumes says
that the 'Type' is basic and the 'Partition style' is 'Master Boot
Record (MBR)'. Reformatting with 'disk management' produces the same
results. So, can the Master Boot Record be removed from this disk? If
so, how? Is this an issue? If this partition gets 'activated' will it be
an issue if there is not an OS on it? Does windows XP always make
'primary partitions/basic' 'master boot record' partitions? Norton
antivirus also sees two Master Boot Records in my computer as well as
three Boot Records!


OS Name Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition
Version 5.1.2600 Service Pack 2 Build 2600
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
HAL Version = "5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)"
Total Physical Memory 1,024.00 MB
Available Physical Memory 815.43 MB
Total Virtual Memory 2.00 GB
Available Virtual Memory 1.96 GB
Page File Space 1.90 GB
Page File D:\pagefile.sys


OS is here:---------------------------------------
Drive C:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System NTFS
Size 10.00 GB (10,733,957,120 bytes)
Volume Name Lassen

Drive D:-------------------------------------------
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System NTFS
Size 143.38 GB (153,952,530,432 bytes)
Volume Name Arches

second drive with MBR is here:---------------------
Drive E:
Description Local Fixed Disk
Compressed No
File System NTFS
Size 42.93 GB (46,100,242,432 bytes)
Volume Name Yosemite
Anonymous
July 10, 2005 9:25:28 PM

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"John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
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>I have a spare disk which used to have Windows 98SE on it. I reformatted
> the disk, as a single large 'basic' partition, by downloading the
> manufacturers installation software and reformatting the disk with the
> manufacturers installation software. I added the disk to my PC and ran
> 'disk management'. To my surprise 'disk management' is offering to let
> me make the partition on the second disk 'active'. This disk does not
> have an OS on it anymore. Device Manager - Properties - Volumes says
> that the 'Type' is basic and the 'Partition style' is 'Master Boot
> Record (MBR)'. Reformatting with 'disk management' produces the same
> results. So, can the Master Boot Record be removed from this disk? If
> so, how?

Delete any partitions you have created, then formatting it as an
extended partition should do what you want.

rgds
Li'l Roberto
Anonymous
July 13, 2005 6:18:51 AM

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> Delete any partitions you have created, then formatting it as an
> extended partition should do what you want.
>
>

Didn't work. The MBR was still there.
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Anonymous
July 14, 2005 1:52:21 AM

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"John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
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>> Delete any partitions you have created, then formatting it as an
>> extended partition should do what you want.
>>
>>
>
> Didn't work. The MBR was still there.

fixmbr?
http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/window...
July 14, 2005 1:52:22 AM

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"John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
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>I have a spare disk which used to have Windows 98SE on it. I reformatted
> the disk, as a single large 'basic' partition, by downloading the
> manufacturers installation software and reformatting the disk with the
> manufacturers installation software. I added the disk to my PC and ran
> 'disk management'. To my surprise 'disk management' is offering to let
> me make the partition on the second disk 'active'. This disk does not
> have an OS on it anymore. Device Manager - Properties - Volumes says
> that the 'Type' is basic and the 'Partition style' is 'Master Boot
> Record (MBR)'. Reformatting with 'disk management' produces the same
> results. So, can the Master Boot Record be removed from this disk? If
> so, how?


Li'l Roberto responds...
>>> Delete any partitions you have created, then formatting it as an
>>> extended partition should do what you want.


> "John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
> news:Xns9692178043DADDQ1V55H078NX3AGH5MJX@207.46.248.16...
>>>
>> Didn't work. The MBR was still there.


"grolschie" <grolschie@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
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> fixmbr?
> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/window...


John:
I'm assuming you're planning to use that second drive for storage and/or
backup purposes. Why don't you simply use XP's Disk Management utility to
format the drive? There's really no need to use the manufacturer's utility
for this purpose. The DM utility is a perfectly fine program to partition
and/or format your drive. Unless you have some special problem with that
drive, I don't think you have to "remove" the MBR with some special program.
Is there any reason why simple formatting of the drive is insufficient for
your purposes?
Anna
Anonymous
July 14, 2005 5:01:47 PM

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"Anna" <myname@myisp.net> wrote in message
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> "John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
> news:o sjCAMShFHA.3340@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>I have a spare disk which used to have Windows 98SE on it. I reformatted
>> the disk, as a single large 'basic' partition, by downloading the
>> manufacturers installation software and reformatting the disk with the
>> manufacturers installation software. I added the disk to my PC and ran
>> 'disk management'. To my surprise 'disk management' is offering to let
>> me make the partition on the second disk 'active'. This disk does not
>> have an OS on it anymore. Device Manager - Properties - Volumes says
>> that the 'Type' is basic and the 'Partition style' is 'Master Boot
>> Record (MBR)'. Reformatting with 'disk management' produces the same
>> results. So, can the Master Boot Record be removed from this disk? If
>> so, how?
>
>
> Li'l Roberto responds...
>>>> Delete any partitions you have created, then formatting it as an
>>>> extended partition should do what you want.
>
>
>> "John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9692178043DADDQ1V55H078NX3AGH5MJX@207.46.248.16...
>>>>
>>> Didn't work. The MBR was still there.
>
>
> "grolschie" <grolschie@NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote in message
> news:mv5Be.265$PL5.58456@news.xtra.co.nz...
>> fixmbr?
>> http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/window...
>
>
> John:
> I'm assuming you're planning to use that second drive for storage and/or
> backup purposes. Why don't you simply use XP's Disk Management utility to
> format the drive? There's really no need to use the manufacturer's utility
> for this purpose. The DM utility is a perfectly fine program to partition
> and/or format your drive. Unless you have some special problem with that
> drive, I don't think you have to "remove" the MBR with some special
> program. Is there any reason why simple formatting of the drive is
> insufficient for your purposes?
> Anna

I screwed the MBR so bad once, somehow, that fdisking couldn't fix things.
Downloading Western Digital's software for my drive and writing 0's to the
entire drive allowed me to get it back to a working state. :-)
Anonymous
July 14, 2005 6:34:27 PM

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On 13 Jul 2005, you wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

> Is there any reason why
> simple formatting of the drive is insufficient for your purposes?
> Anna
>

Tried that, didn't work.
July 14, 2005 9:47:52 PM

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"John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
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> On 13 Jul 2005, you wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
>
>> Is there any reason why
>> simple formatting of the drive is insufficient for your purposes?
>> Anna
>>
>
> Tried that, didn't work.

John:
When you say it "didn't work", specifically, in what way didn't it work? I
assume from your original posting that you're planning to use that drive as
a second drive for storage/backup purposes. Is that right? If so, after
you've partitioned/formatted it (using the Disk Management utility in XP)
what exactly is the problem? Does the system not recognize the drive? Do you
get some sort of error message(s) when you attempt to access the drive?

It would really help if you would provide more precise details concerning
the problem other than your concern re "removing the MBR" from the disk?
Anna
August 2, 2012 3:10:51 AM

anna said:
Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

"John Smithe" <JS@huh.wha> wrote in message
news:Xns9693944432566DQ1V55H078NX3AGH5MJX@207.46.248.16...
> On 13 Jul 2005, you wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:
>
>> Is there any reason why
>> simple formatting of the drive is insufficient for your purposes?
>> Anna
>>
>
> Tried that, didn't work.

John:
When you say it "didn't work", specifically, in what way didn't it work? I
assume from your original posting that you're planning to use that drive as
a second drive for storage/backup purposes. Is that right? If so, after
you've partitioned/formatted it (using the Disk Management utility in XP)
what exactly is the problem? Does the system not recognize the drive? Do you
get some sort of error message(s) when you attempt to access the drive?

It would really help if you would provide more precise details concerning
the problem other than your concern re "removing the MBR" from the disk?
Anna



Habing a similar problem - so long as the MBR is there the disk tries to be the one from which my system boots. but acks the actual boot sequences. so the system does not boot . YET becAUSE SO LONG AS IT IS LOADED i CAN NOT ACTUALLY REACH THE BIOS/SETUP IN TIME TOO PREVENTT HE WHOLE THING FROM FREEZING So it gails to boot and gives me a blue screen of non birth. disconnected the system works
!