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1/10th as hard against invaders to the U.S. ???
I seriously doubt they would resist at all, first of all we don't have the weaponry, explosives and knowledge to make bombs and to carry out attacks--i feel americans have been neutered and would raise their hands in the air. all police, law enforcement and military are nationalized and would be the instrument used to takeover the U.S.
I do not think the conquering of america would be a lenghty hard fought task considering the laws,restrictions and complaicency in this country.

I think Amerika is already took over

They took over in our heads, from kindergarten up.

They are doing it slow, and easy. Govt programes to keep everybody happy.

Heck, even took over the churches. Just find how many of the churches will support God's Laws.

"all done away with".

Quote me here: ALL of God's laws apply, and only in Christ is there freedom.


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ive got a thought, and im not afraid to use it!

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Reply to Jake_Barnes

You have a valid point and in some parts of this country thats exactly what probably would happen, but where I live every other pickup truck sports loaded gunracks in the back window, almost every homeowner has numerous guns, [me included], are avid hunters, and would blow your ass away at an intrusion of their home.

Since the assault rifle ban has been lifted people here are now buying new weapons like hotcakes, and I'm not talking single shot shotguns either, I think an invading force would have severe casualities, even attempting to walk through where I live, I may be wrong in saying that, and probably be called a warmonger and all that, and you can believe it or not.

I would fight to the death to defend my home, and my family, and my neighbors, and thats the bottomline for me!

There is no compromising this point, as far as I'm concerned!





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Reply to 4ryan6

Agreed. Heck, it would be funny, seeing a redneck town (not talking about you, but just thinking of those kinds of towns) awaiting terrorists. They try to enter the town, and suddenly Pa and Ma come out with their shotguns.

"Hey ma! Fire up the bewtayne, wur gonna have some sta-eek tonaht!"

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id like to see some one take over my neck of da woodz, theres a suprise waiting, you dont even have to knock, just walk right on in :wink:

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And here comes grandma, with a double barrell shotgun,,"Git thu Heelll outa my yard, u whipper snappers, fore'n I unload Bessie on ya". :smile:

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Its kinda like Richard Pryors old joke about the Burgular and the Dobermans, they let you in the house, but they won't let you leave! :smile:

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roger that. ill sick steph on em :wink: and my good friend i like to call "fiteen" also known as AR-15 with isreali dot sights on that mofo :wink: w/ extra clip even though i dont need it.

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I would fight to the death to defend my home, and my family, and my neighbors, and thats the bottomline for me!



hmmm perhaps the iraqis who are defending their homes feel the same way.

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of course against saddam,

keep trying to misconstrue words.

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hmmm perhaps the iraqis who are defending their homes feel the same way.



Its a little different don't you think, the Iraqi people have lived for years under a tyrants rule, they've never had a clue as to what freedom is, they never spoke out against Sadaam, or they were slaughtered. Have you forgotten all that?

I'm sure an Iraqi that felt his counrty as a whole was being attacked would have the same attitude, but if their hopes were, that the tyrant that oppressed them was going to be removed they may have a different attitude about the whole thing, you may possibly be speaking for some, but they don't all share your attitude.

Its so easy for you to constantly thumb your nose at us, you cannot see any good thats been done for the Iraqi people at all, only bad on our parts, lets just hope for a good outcome to it all, OK, because the majority of us in the US would love for there to be peace everywhere, and maybe one day there will be.





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I wouldn't stand up and fight! I'd HIDE! Behind a tree! With a 30-06 and a cheap Tasco scope!

My wife on the other hand...she'd be hiding behind another tree...with the other 30-06 and cheap Tasco scope!

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Do you understand the history of Iraq? They Brittish installed a government there, and look what that got them? Poverty and oppression. So they backed the bloodbath party, and Sadaam rose to power. And now another country promisses to instal a government that's NOT as bad as the one installed by the brits, but do you think they all believe that? Would YOU?

Certainly a lot of them believe it's worth a try, but many of the rest just see it as another occupying force installing another puppet government, and nobody is going to convince them otherwise. They sound almost as hard headed as Americans, no?

Now, I don't have a solution for the anymosity caused by past abuses of other nations. So I'd like to hear YOUR suggestions! How do we deal with the problem of Iraqi patriotism? Kill all the patriots?

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America can do no wrong, heretic!

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Reply to Snorkius

actually i wasn't thumping america at all in that post.

i was mearly stating that iraqis who are defending their homes are no different to you or me.

heck if someone invaded my country i would most likely fight back. (pity we have no weapons of any sort here LOL, maybe a frypan)

infact i was trying to reduce the "differences" between america and iraq. they are not so different to you or me, or any other human trying to protect their interests.

yes some have it wrong, and are trying to cause fear and cause instability, but both sides have people like that.


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I wouldn't stand up and fight! I'd HIDE! Behind a tree! With a 30-06 and a cheap Tasco scope!




Thats just being wise on your part, its not like I'd stand in the street or something and give them a clear shot at me, I would do as much hit and run damage as possible, and as many head shots as possible, because they'd probably have flak jackets on in the first place.


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i would also call for robd's help as i know he would have ye ole 50cal sniper waiting in the rear, :wink:

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Reply to mrface

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Do you understand the history of Iraq? They Brittish installed a government there, and look what that got them? Poverty and oppression. So they backed the bloodbath party, and Sadaam rose to power. And now another country promisses to instal a government that's NOT as bad as the one installed by the brits, but do you think they all believe that? Would YOU?

Certainly a lot of them believe it's worth a try, but many of the rest just see it as another occupying force installing another puppet government, and nobody is going to convince them otherwise. They sound almost as hard headed as Americans, no?

Now, I don't have a solution for the anymosity caused by past abuses of other nations. So I'd like to hear YOUR suggestions! How do we deal with the problem of Iraqi patriotism? Kill all the patriots?





Alltaken is the one that threw the Iraqi factor into this post, I don't have the answers for resolving everything, I just posted here in the first place because I would defend my home, and I don't see anything wrong with that. We've been all through this right and wrong aspect of messing with Iraq in the first place over and over, and I'm not getting into that again. I would defend my home as I'm sure you would also.






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Thats a nasty weapon PF, it will blow a monstrous hole in something!

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hole?

lmao, or take a torso off. lmao,


searches for linky(i think its at home) with 50 cal action in it. :evil:

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...*appears from cover in camouflage snipers suit*...

You called for my services...?

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ROCK!!!! **BANGS HEAD** ROCK!!!

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Reply to mrface

Always lurking about, ready for service, I see!!!! :wink:



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Reply to RCPilot

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Alltaken is the one that threw the Iraqi factor into this post, I don't have the answers for resolving everything, I just posted here in the first place because I would defend my home, and I don't see anything wrong with that. We've been all through this right and wrong aspect of messing with Iraq in the first place over and over, and I'm not getting into that again. I would defend my home as I'm sure you would also.


everyone would defend their home.

that was my only original point. i also wasn't wanting a debate on iraq. but talking about people defending their homes is a universal thing which we all share.

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good point.

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Reply to mrface

Cocked, locked and ready to rock sir.

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Reply to RobD

Always mate, always.

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Reply to RobD

Man did that A64 machine come out rockin!!! Sweet machine I'll tell you!!!! Wish I had one!!!! :frown:



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Reply to RCPilot

Oh yeah, you were building that at the weekend, weren't you? So I take it it went well? Fast as f*ck I take it?

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Reply to RobD

Oh Man, she screamed!!!!

A64 3500 Winchester s939
Neo 2 Plat.
a gig of Hyper X low latency 3200
6800 GT 256 mg.
2 80 gig WD JB's in RAID 0.

The latest 3Dmark it did just over 10,500. In 3Dmark 2001 SE it did a tad over 22,000. We did SE to compare to his old rig. It got 8,000 in SE Old rig was:

1.3 gig Tbird
A7v Kt133
a gig of SD133 RAM
TI 4200.
2 80 gig WD JB's, master / slave

Pretty dam good upgrade, nearly 2/3 rds faster... I was impressed to say the least!!!



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Reply to RCPilot

sounds sweet can u build me one and ship it to me on layaway?

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Reply to mrface

Man, I can't afford one, myself!!! [/sobs]



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Reply to RCPilot

...*sounds of jaw hitting floor*...

Oh man, I'm drooling now. God I want one. Best start saving my overtime I suppose... :frown:

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Reply to RobD

you could sell your wifes shoes...

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Reply to mrface

I could sell one pair of Wingy's wife's. That should cover the cost of a full rig for both you and I.

Or I could just sell my missus.... might get the cost of a floppy drive :evil:

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Reply to RobD

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...*sounds of jaw hitting floor*...


Mine did also!!!

He was tweaking the vid card last night after he got home & got the latest 3Dmark up just a shade under 11,000.. I want to see where he gets after he OC's the CPU.

I forgot to mention, it's running 38c on stk. air.. The cooler was real quiet & now I can see how they get 2.6 or so on stk. air with the Winchester!!! :wink:



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Reply to RCPilot

HoooBoy, I got an earth shattering revelation for you: EVERYBODY does wrong. In fact, wrongdoing is such an ingrained part of humanity that you are better off judging a person by their intentions, rather than actions. And since you can never be perfectly certian of anyone's intentions, you can't judge them accurately.

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Reply to Crashman

Her most expensive pair is 450 Euros :frown:

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Reply to WingDing

That's a nice 3700+ for ya.

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So did ya finish DOOM III yet?

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ill sick steph on em


Man even on the worst terrorists that'd be cruel! :eek:

:lol:

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You guys outta check out the new THG article on the 3.8GHZ P4. They have a power consumption chart at the end.

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Reply to eden

linkage...

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Reply to mrface

disregard i found it.

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Reply to mrface

So, found the "systemic anomaly"? :wink:

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yepperz

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Reply to mrface

Pretty amazing huh?

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Reply to eden

yes i will say that i am quite amazed, i have never actually used amd before that it makes me interested...lmao.

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