Clicking on our links to Apple forums and evidence of customer dissatisfaction with Apple's OSX Leopard upgrade policy now yields nothing but error messages.
I don't really get what is going on, did Apple promise that if you bought a new iMac before the new OS is coming out that you'd get a discount or something, or is this something that Apple has done in the past and not done this time around. I'm not interested in any Apple products or the company itself, but I do want to know just how did this start.
just found this wikipedia (yeah, I know, not the best site for info.)
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When Leopard was initially released, buyers of new Macs in August and September 2007, including the 20 and 24-inch iMac models released in 2007-08-07, were denied of the $9.95 upgrade pricing. However, there were surprisingly few complaints over Apple's discussion boards. When asked why complaints about the upgrade pricing policy were being deleted, the official response was the questions were not "support oriented"; but when asked why posts praising Apple's upgrade policy, from customers that bought new Macs in October, were not also being deleted, as they also were not "support oriented", the posts were censored. In addition, threads for questions over OS X's validation scheme were censored.[54]
This has been brewing for some time IMHO. Apple likes to portray itself as the "Holier than thou" OS when compared to the evil M$FT.
Apple can't stand the heat but regularly plays with fire in the kitchen... evidence: watch TV mac ads /vs M$FT. Surely you've seen at least one by now.
As I've said in other posts Apple censors everything bad about them, they have too because they are so small compared to M$FT and they have to keep the "cult" hypnotized so they keep buying. This is what happens when you claim to be perfect and "just work".
It's also another reason or excuse if you will that "cultists" use if you bash their poor little iapple. They give you a list of bugs from vista / xp / me / 2000 that is enough to overwhelm the internet connection. Because M$FT doesn't censor as you might imagine, they have better things to do. Try to find an ounce of trouble with apple... you won't if apple has found it with their giant electronic eraser. [The may release it soon to other companies try to repair their image... dubbed the ieraser. ]
M$FT doesn't ever say they are bug free it is always a work in progress, if you have 1000's of virus writers trying to destroy you I don't think you would worry to much about what people say about you.
For some reason Apple has a chip on it's shoulder.
If all else fails you can use timelines or paths or quotes of Steve Job's... IE fastest computer in the world, shortly thereafter switched to Intel. This is one no one can refute. Apple / Job lies all the time. If you pay attention you can catch them in it all the time. I really wouldn't have a reason to say anything about apple if it wasn't for this. I don't like liars and neither should you!
M$FT could care less what apple says or does, did they do anything to stop apple from bashing them? Have they retaliated in any way? Who is really evil here? M$FT is clearly not perfect, but they don't proclaim that anyway.
When choosing a computer it should be about freedom of choice. You have little choice if you choose apple. You can and will have problems no matter what you pick. Your chances may only be slightly less if you choose apple.
I choose M$FT thank you very much!
Message edited by pip_seeker on 11-06-2007 at 03:12:57 PM
Apple has has no right to censor, and it's definitely lame of them, but dude, your articles on Apple have been horribly biased and misleading and I don't think you should report on their stuff if you hate them that much. You've been on a crusade against them for awhile.
On the other hand, they need a kick in the ass for those ridiculous Mac/PC commercials that have gone uncontested. The've been lying about their stuff for years on everything from the superior performance of PPC processors (then switching to intel processors a few months later and claiming they were 4-5x faster, that was a hoot) to having more fun on a Mac (sure, you have more fun on a platform that will see less than 2% of all games released!)
Message edited by inthere on 11-06-2007 at 04:18:17 PM
another one for example, best buy and circuit city and tiger direct
fine a product on their site that they are boastign about, then leave a review talking about a flaw in the product such as the bottom half of the screen being much brighter than the top half (lg monitor at best buy)
within a day your review will be deleted
but if you give it a bad review saying something like, "I don't really like the shape of the back of it, they will leave the review up
many of these companies will censor anything that lists negative facts about a product as negative facts reduce sales of the product
if you don't believe me, try looking up some reviews of different products, then fine a negative fact about the item then talk about that flaw in a review, it will most likely never wind up on the site or it will be posted on the page then removed shortly after
a while back I brought some blank cd-rw's made by memorex they never worked, when i burned them, the cd will be detected and show that data was on it but other than that, the disk was unreadable (happened on many all 3 of my computers, but my sony cd-rw's work just fine many people complained about this, including me, and all of the comments were removed)
many companies have the idea that you can say anything about them as long as it is something good about hem
microsoft doesnt need to cover up this crap because almost all software is designed for windows so your stuck with them especially if you work of a company that uses it
Message edited by razor512 on 11-06-2007 at 04:17:06 PM
I choose both! I have Windows Vista on both my Macs! Seeker, I didn't read read your post before I posted what essentially echoed what you said about Apple, sorry.
I'm an XP/Vista dual booter. I would've given Apple a try a long time ago but based on the camp's sheer snootiness and lack of game support, I loathed to do it.
Personally, I DO NOT like arguing over which OS is superior (ugh, don't get me started about open source "uberness" ). However, for entertainment purposes, this article can't be beat. I'm forwarding this to my friends. HA!
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He's made himself Judge, Jury and Executioner!
No! No! Not Judge Judy and Executioner!
I'm really tired of TOMs flaming Apple, I never had an Apple product, and I never will. But every damn article on Toms is directed to flame Apple about everything.
Are you THAT mad at them that they don't give you samples that you have to insist on publising one article a day flaming?
Toms was really PRO, now it's becoming yellow press (and by yellow you know what I mean)
if there's any doubt that either Steve Jobs or Bill Gates are complete and unadulterated a-wholes see the movie The Pirates of Silicon Valley. i recently bought it after looking hard and deep just to prove to a few friends who look at these guys as intelligent and successful, how far off and w/o a clue they are. As they viewed in amazement, they finally learned what is really behind this 'technofobic' revolution. Just like any other. More crap only faster.
BTW, the movie opens with the shooting of the very commericial quoted in Tom's article!
What I don't understand is why more Apple fans are not upset. They shelter their beloved Apple items from wind, rain, and criticism. You can bash MS all day long and everyone will agree with with much lamenting. But criticize Apple and you will be burned to the ground. What Apple idiots should understand is that if you tell Apple you're ok with exorbitant prices, flawed products, and shady business practices- why would they change? You're essentially saying, "I don't mind, keep on doing these things to me Apple". Thereby decreasing the incentives/reasons Apple would continue to improve their products. Essentially you're shooting yourselves in the foot, TELL Apple you're pissed! Even if you're not. You're like a bunch of socialists, but you forget- capitalism won the cold war! Putting your fanboyism ahead of improvement and legitimate criticism makes me call you a moron.
How low can people go.
It seems M$ is just too big to censor everything.
Anyway, I give-up on Apple. If I need an alternative to Vista, I'll just use a new version of Linux. Again, linux is free, there is no reason anyone will want to censor anything about linux.
I don't believe THG is an Apple flamer. I remember reading some very favorable articels about iPods for example.
iampowerslave- has it occurred to you that Toms reports on the tech news? Perhaps more legitimately that Apple is rarely criticized and thus any more than 1 articles on them seems overboard? There's a pervasive notion that Apple is perfect and can do no wrong. I've got news for you- especially Apple users! This is BAD. What happens to the Patriots if they finally believe they can go 16-0? There's a good chance they start looking past opponents, and not trying to improve like Billicheck is trying to impress on them. Being the best is fine, thinking you're the best is potentially dangerous.
Anyone who thinks that Tom's is unfair to Apple needs to take another look at the site. When is the last time they gave an unfair review to an Apple product? I remember a number of favorable articles regarding Apple over the past few months, discussing the various products and what their strengths and weaknesses are... exactly what the site should be doing.
The only time they say anything bad about Apple is when they're reporting news which is about bad crap Apple does. And... it's really all Apple's doing. When they choose to do things like iPhone price drops and offering Leopard updates to very few people, it's their choice, and they have to live with the press.
Apple can try to censor "unrelated" threads on their own site, which it seems they're doing... that only makes fair and honest reporting that much more important for tech news websites.
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