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http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/0 [...] clusively/

Says it all now that toshiba's bribe money to go hd-dvd exclusive ran out now they select the winning format.

Blu-ray players now total in millions where hd-dvd 100's of thousands.

My hope is hd-dvd dies and goes away leaving one format then i might buy blu-ray movies instead of dvd.

I have inside information that 3 major movie studios are jumping off the hd-dvd bandwagon because the money they were given has run out to be hd-dvd exclusive and going to blu-ray because of the shear number of blu-ray players.

Still not convinced?

http://www.tomshardware.com/2008/0 [...] y_as_well/

Thats not the end of according to my sources there even more jump ship from hd-dvd its days are numbered.

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Message edited by techguy911 on 01-09-2008 at 06:05:20 AM
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I don't care much if there's two format as long that there's a multi format player like the LG Super Blu Player http://us.lge.com/SuperBlu/ or like the LG Super Multi Blue GGW-H10N http://www.lge.com/products/model/ [...] h10n.jhtml

Reply to rexter

lol toshiba does not want to give up even though there beat.

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Reply to techguy911

I own both. The picture is just as clear for both, slightly better than Directv HD on a quality disc, but to this point, HD DVD has more extras and slightly better sound than Blu-ray. Don't be so quick to rant about Toshiba throwing money to studios for HD DVD because I'd bet Sony is throwing around even more.

P.S It's their, not there.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

Some reports suggest Warner Bros. jumped ship because of the failure of their TotalHD project (1 side Blu-Ray/1 side HD-DVD) and the feeling that the HD-DVD camp didn't want it. Plus Blu-Ray camp gave them $500 million to stick to Blu-Ray exclusive.

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That's too funny. Nice find!

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

2 more major movie studios are on the fence atm looking at going to blue ray exclusive and dumping hd-dvd unless they get more money to stay exclusive.

Reply to techguy911

Alot of major movies studios including the porn industry are now switching over to blu-ray due to the massive lead in blu-ray sales, it will be announced soon, thus putting an end to this war.

Sales currently are 6 to 1 and increasing, it would be best for hd-dvd just to give up for market sake 2 formats just won't work and blu-ray is more future proof.

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techguy911 wrote :

Alot of major movies studios including the porn industry are now switching over to blu-ray due to the massive lead in blu-ray sales, it will be announced soon, thus putting an end to this war.



The last I read the Porn industry was going to stick with DVD for the foreseeable future. Also apart from disc space HD-DVD has more benefits and features then Blu-Ray.

Reply to JeanLuc

I knew that if I bought an HD-DVD player, it would be over for the format.

Sorry everyone its my fault.

(Kinda like when you wash your car, it pretty much garrantees that it will rain)

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rallyimprezive wrote :

I knew that if I bought an HD-DVD player, it would be over for the format.

Sorry everyone its my fault.

(Kinda like when you wash your car, it pretty much garrantees that it will rain)


Well ,thanks for taking one for the team! Now I can go go buy a Blu-Ray to go with my Sony Bravia. Here I thought I was going to have to wait another year! Thanks again rallyimprezive for personally killing HD DVD!

On a side note, if HD DVD disappears, will price on Blu Ray drop as fast with no competition, or will they drop as all the fence sitters will now jump onto the Blu Ray wagon? It was nice to see HD DVD at $150 range, but Blu Ray is still $200 more right now. Any thoughts

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Reply to trialsking

It should drop more quickly. No need to keep dumping millions into the battle. More companies can start making players and discs to drop the production costs quicker.

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Reply to KingLoftusXII

Well folks here it is hd-dvd is DEAD toshiba has seen the light now:

http://money.cnn.com/2008/02/19/te [...] 2008021904

Blu-ray has won finally so you can go out and buy yourself a ps3, blu-ray player. :D

Reply to techguy911

A damn shame, I swear, a Damn shame! :cry:

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Reply to Rockstone1

My guest is, there would still be a High Definition war if only X-box 360 have included the HD player and not as a separate purchase. Make it no option to purchase separately. Forcing consumers to use the technology that will make HD-DVD purchase a little more encouraging.

I think that's one of the reason why blue-ray won the war it's because of PS3. Early gossip says that 360 is not backward compatible, if that is not true then alot of consumers were miss informed. Most people bought the console not just for gaming but first and foremost is the HD player. It's by far the cheapest HD player at the time.

So when the early prediction that Porn industry will drive the High Definition technology to cease. I came to scratching my head saying how in the world a porn industry could change that when the majority of users now a days would rather pay for Games and Movies in high def. than spending on a low budget film that have a bad or doesn't have story line, and the only thing you hear most of the show is moaning and uses very low diction. Besides they don't make porn film like the old days where it tells the story.

I'm sure there are explanation on why blue-ray win this war. but come to think of it both technology is practically the same. Both uses blue-ray light and both High Definition, Execpt for processing.

I think this technology war is actually a combat of who got the rights to license. I wish both technology stays. It might bring the cost of the Disc down. Like Rockstone1 said Damn shame.

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Message edited by rexter on 02-22-2008 at 10:03:12 AM
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rexter wrote :

I'm sure there are explanation on why blue-ray win this war.



Sony had more money to throw at movie studios to go Blu-ray exclusive.

rexter wrote :

but come to think of it both technology is practically the same. Both uses blue-ray light and both High Definition, Execpt for processing.



Not true. Blu-ray does use a blue laser, but HD DVD doesn't. HD DVD still uses the red laser and is basically the same as current DVD players just on steroids. That's why Blu-ray has a much higher storage capacity.

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KingLoftusXII wrote :

Not true. Blu-ray does use a blue laser, but HD DVD doesn't. HD DVD still uses the red laser and is basically the same as current DVD players just on steroids. That's why Blu-ray has a much higher storage capacity.



"Since all variants except the 3x DVD employed a blue laser with a shorter wavelength, ..." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD

" The blue laser that reads and writes to HD DVD has a shorter wavelength ... "
http://www.thelookandsoundofperfec [...] ech-specs/

Laser and optics
" Like its rival format HD DVD, Blu-ray uses a "blue" (technically violet) laser operating at a wavelength of 405 nm to read and write data. Conventional DVDs and CDs use red and near infrared lasers at 650 nm and 780 nm respectively. "
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Origins

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KingLoftusXII wrote :

Not true. Blu-ray does use a blue laser, but HD DVD doesn't. HD DVD still uses the red laser and is basically the same as current DVD players just on steroids. That's why Blu-ray has a much higher storage capacity.



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Since all variants except the 3x DVD employed a blue laser with a shorter wavelength, ... - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD



Quote :

The blue laser that reads and writes to HD DVD has a shorter wavelength ... - http://www.thelookandsoundofperfec [...] ech-specs/




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Laser and optics
Like its rival format HD DVD, Blu-ray uses a "blue" (technically violet) laser operating at a wavelength of 405 nm to read and write data. Conventional DVDs and CDs use red and near infrared lasers at 650 nm and 780 nm respectively. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray#Origins




This maybe the one you're thinking.

Quote :

3x DVD
The HD DVD format also applies to current red laser DVDs; this type of disc is called "3x DVD", as it is capable of three times the bandwidth of regular DVD-Video.

3x DVDs are physically identical to normal DVDs. Although 3x DVDs provide the same high definition content, their playback time is less. For example, an 8.5 GB DVD can hold about 85 minutes of 1080p video encoded with VC-1 or AVC at an average bitrate of 13 Mbit/s, suitable for short subjects (training films, home movies), but unsuitable for feature film-length content.

It is technically possible for consumers to create HD DVD compatible discs using low cost DVD-R or DVD+R media. At least one such guide exists.[59] The 3x DVD is comparable to Blu-ray's BD9. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_DVD#3x_DVD





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