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Tom Sloper wrote:
> Sascha wrote:
> >>> What is the "Humanly Hand" ?
>
> Morten wrote:
> >> In the rules I play (Riichi). The "human" hand is going out off a
players
> >> discard during the first round(that is before your first draw).
> >> I believe the Japanese term for this hand is Renho.
> >> Two similar hands are the "Heavenly" hand or Tenho (going out as
east
> >> with your starting hand) and "Earthly" hand or Chiho(going out off
your
> >> first draw).
>
> Patrick wrote:
> >That sounds about right, except I think you might have the early and
> >humanly hand definitions mixed up. Going out on the first discard is
what
> >people I play with call "day woo" (ground/earth win) and to draw
your first
> >tile and go out is called a "yun woo" (human win).
>
> Everybody is right. To clarify, there are three types of wins within
the
> first go-round (the first 4 turns):
> - Heavenly Hand -- Dealer goes out on the original deal.
> - Earthly Hand -- Non-dealer goes out on dealer's first discard.
> - Hand of Man - Player goes out within the first 4 plays of a game
(not on
> dealer's first discard).
>
> Tom
I don't know what each is called, but there seem to be more than three
types of wins after a "deal":
- Dealer wins with the original dealt hand without flower replacements.
- Dealer wins with the original dealt hand after flower replacements.
- Player wins with first discard by dealer.
- Player wins with discard by another player before his turn to draw a
tile (this can get quite complex with pungs and skipped turns, so it
may or may not be limited to the "first 4 plays").
- Player wins on first regular draw (again, with pungs and skipped
turns, the first draw by a player may not be within the "first 4
plays").
- Player wins on kong replacement from first draw.
- Player wins on flower replacement from first draw.
- Player can "call" with the dealt hand, and choose to "seal" the hand
(i.e., not replacing any of the dealt tiles) and eventually wins --
either by discard or self draw.
All of these are scored as special in some rules or another. And I am
sure there are other ways of winning from the dealt hand that I don't
know about.