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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 1:46:33 AM

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I have a friend running Win XP Home, their motherboard died and we moved
the hard drive (as a slave) to another computer running XP Home to fetch
the files out of their profile folder (c:\documents and settings\person
\...)

When we click on any other users profile the files are exposed and
available, clicking on that users specific folder gives and Access
Denied Error.

The drive is NTFS, EFS options are grayed out on all folders anywhere,
trying to access files as the Administrator (logged on as
Administrator), and don't see a SECURITY TAB in the folder properties.

I've never used XP Home on anything, only Prof.

What could they have done to cause Access Denied for a users profile and
not the others?

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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 1:46:34 AM

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Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

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"Leythos" wrote:

| I have a friend running Win XP Home, their motherboard died and we moved
| the hard drive (as a slave) to another computer running XP Home to fetch
| the files out of their profile folder (c:\documents and settings\person
| \...)
|
| When we click on any other users profile the files are exposed and
| available, clicking on that users specific folder gives and Access
| Denied Error.
|
| The drive is NTFS, EFS options are grayed out on all folders anywhere,
| trying to access files as the Administrator (logged on as
| Administrator), and don't see a SECURITY TAB in the folder properties.
|
| I've never used XP Home on anything, only Prof.
|
| What could they have done to cause Access Denied for a users profile and
| not the others?
Anonymous
July 15, 2005 1:46:34 AM

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Home can't do encryption. Install Pro temporaiily and fetch the files with
efs then remove it or update boot.ini with
"multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d40a74ae27e9d639899e9@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
>I have a friend running Win XP Home, their motherboard died and we moved
> the hard drive (as a slave) to another computer running XP Home to fetch
> the files out of their profile folder (c:\documents and settings\person
> \...)
>
> When we click on any other users profile the files are exposed and
> available, clicking on that users specific folder gives and Access
> Denied Error.
>
> The drive is NTFS, EFS options are grayed out on all folders anywhere,
> trying to access files as the Administrator (logged on as
> Administrator), and don't see a SECURITY TAB in the folder properties.
>
> I've never used XP Home on anything, only Prof.
>
> What could they have done to cause Access Denied for a users profile and
> not the others?
>
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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 1:46:35 AM

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On this date, Carey Frisch [MVP] extended this wisdom for the
consideration of other readers...

> Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881
>
> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421
>
One thing the OP needs to be sure is that "Use simple file
sharing" is /unchecked/ in Win Explorer Tools>Folder options>
View, else the Security tab won't be there.

Took me hours to find out why I couldn't assign myself
permission to view the System Volume Information folder where
Restore Points are stored. Turned out that "simple file
sharing" removes the Security tab so I couldn't alter security
for that folder.

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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 1:46:35 AM

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Re-read the OP. Both machines in question use HOME so EFS is not the
problem. What is the problem is that the SID on the old drive don't
match the SID of the new machine it's in. The only way to "take
ownership" of the files/folders in question (look this up in Help) is
to login as Administrator in SAFE MODE. It can't be done in Home any
other way.

On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:55:33 -0500, "youllneverguess"
<brianconnerremovethis@mail2web.net> wrote:

>Home can't do encryption. Install Pro temporaiily and fetch the files with
>efs then remove it or update boot.ini with
>"multi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP
>Professional" /noexecute=optin /fastdetect
>
>"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>news:MPG.1d40a74ae27e9d639899e9@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
>>I have a friend running Win XP Home, their motherboard died and we moved
>> the hard drive (as a slave) to another computer running XP Home to fetch
>> the files out of their profile folder (c:\documents and settings\person
>> \...)
>>
>> When we click on any other users profile the files are exposed and
>> available, clicking on that users specific folder gives and Access
>> Denied Error.
>>
>> The drive is NTFS, EFS options are grayed out on all folders anywhere,
>> trying to access files as the Administrator (logged on as
>> Administrator), and don't see a SECURITY TAB in the folder properties.
>>
>> I've never used XP Home on anything, only Prof.
>>
>> What could they have done to cause Access Denied for a users profile and
>> not the others?
>>
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>
Anonymous
July 15, 2005 2:12:48 AM

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In article <#awU33LiFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com says...
> Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881
>
> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

Thanks - I was aware of taking ownership and security, but it was
interesting to see that I had missed the "Simple File Sharing" option,
which they are using. I will go back and check that part.

Thanks

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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 2:12:49 AM

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On this date, Leythos extended this wisdom for the
consideration of other readers...

> In article <#awU33LiFHA.2916@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl>,
> cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com says...
>> Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a
>> Folder
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810
>> 881
>>
>> How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308
>> 421
>
> Thanks - I was aware of taking ownership and security, but
> it was interesting to see that I had missed the "Simple
> File Sharing" option, which they are using. I will go back
> and check that part.

Yes, see my reply to Carey. Simple file sharing will eliminate
the Security tab you need to take control of the folder(s)
you're denied access to right now.

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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 3:03:27 AM

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In article <Xns9693BDA2E4353ReplyToken@216.196.97.136>, useMAPSnet123
@comMAPScast.net says...
> On this date, Carey Frisch [MVP] extended this wisdom for the
> consideration of other readers...
>
> > Access is Denied" Error Message When You Try to Open a Folder
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;810881
> >
> > How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421
> >
> One thing the OP needs to be sure is that "Use simple file
> sharing" is /unchecked/ in Win Explorer Tools>Folder options>
> View, else the Security tab won't be there.
>
> Took me hours to find out why I couldn't assign myself
> permission to view the System Volume Information folder where
> Restore Points are stored. Turned out that "simple file
> sharing" removes the Security tab so I couldn't alter security
> for that folder.

Funny thing is that there is no "Use Simple File Sharing (recommended)"
option on the Folder Options/View/Advanced Settings. I've looked 8 ways
to Sunday and can't find it.

There is also NO TAB for Security when you select Sharing and Security
from the property tab for the folder.

Any ideas why that would be missing?

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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 3:03:28 AM

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On this date, Leythos extended this wisdom for the
consideration of other readers...

> Funny thing is that there is no "Use Simple File Sharing
> (recommended)" option on the Folder Options/View/Advanced
> Settings. I've looked 8 ways to Sunday and can't find it.

Look on the first screen of Tools>Folder Options>View. There's a
long list of things you can display/not display when looking at
a file/folder and/or its properties. Use simple file sharing is
the very last one at the bottom.

Hope you find it!

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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 4:30:04 AM

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In article <ab0ed1hjil2qscgvq0fef6kk58ocb0jgab@4ax.com>, none@none.net
says...
> Re-read the OP. Both machines in question use HOME so EFS is not the
> problem. What is the problem is that the SID on the old drive don't
> match the SID of the new machine it's in. The only way to "take
> ownership" of the files/folders in question (look this up in Help) is
> to login as Administrator in SAFE MODE. It can't be done in Home any
> other way.

Interesting, as I've never used Home, I was unaware that it required
Safe Mode to do it. I will install the drive in a XP Prof computer and
take ownership that way (if that works). Thanks for the help, we don't
support home users so I've got no experience with XP Home.

Thanks again.



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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 7:06:02 AM

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In article <Xns9693E44959B47ReplyToken@216.196.97.136>, useMAPSnet123
@comMAPScast.net says...
> On this date, Leythos extended this wisdom for the
> consideration of other readers...
>
> > Funny thing is that there is no "Use Simple File Sharing
> > (recommended)" option on the Folder Options/View/Advanced
> > Settings. I've looked 8 ways to Sunday and can't find it.
>
> Look on the first screen of Tools>Folder Options>View. There's a
> long list of things you can display/not display when looking at
> a file/folder and/or its properties. Use simple file sharing is
> the very last one at the bottom.

No it's not - there is nothing on the Advanced Settings area that has
anything to do with Sharing. I've checked twice, and the account is the
Administrator account. There is also no Security tab on the properties
page for folders/files.

Nothing about this seems to be normal, like it's XP SP negative-8 or
something.

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Anonymous
July 15, 2005 8:32:45 PM

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All Things Mopar wrote:

> Leythos wrote:
>
>>Funny thing is that there is no "Use Simple File Sharing
>>(recommended)" option on the Folder Options/View/Advanced
>>Settings. I've looked 8 ways to Sunday and can't find it.
>
>
> Look on the first screen of Tools>Folder Options>View. There's a
> long list of things you can display/not display when looking at
> a file/folder and/or its properties. Use simple file sharing is
> the very last one at the bottom.
>
> Hope you find it!
Hi,

Note that you will not find it on a WinXP Home computer, the
"Use Simple File Sharing" option is not available..


From one of the URLs that Carey posted:

How to take ownership of a file or folder in Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;308421

<quote>
If you are running Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition, you must
start the computer in safe mode, and then log on with an account
that has Administrative rights to have access to the Security tab.
</quote>



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