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July 17, 2005 12:00:19 PM

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Appreaciate your responses.

John
July 17, 2005 12:16:57 PM

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John wrote:

> Appreaciate your responses.
>
> John

Unfortunately, you haven't included any useful information in your post,
so you can't get a specific answer. Go here to get help in making a
good post:

http://www.dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
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Then do come back and repost with all necessary details. There are lots
of people reading this newsgroup who want to help you (like me), but
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Anonymous
July 17, 2005 1:35:28 PM

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John wrote:
> Appreaciate your responses.
>
> John


Responses to what, specifically? Not only have you failed to ask a
question, but your subject line is meaningless gibberish.


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Anonymous
July 17, 2005 3:05:03 PM

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Please ask a decent question and state specifics! What are your concerns?
What antivirus?

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You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"John" <zplunger@cox.net> wrote in message
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>
> John
July 17, 2005 3:54:04 PM

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In article <9gskd1lf0i9ig1dgjv94ohq4gkvcn3j0np@4ax.com>,
zplunger@cox.net, John says...

> Appreaciate your responses.
>
> John
>

No cons here.....Anything ZoneAlarm works very well for me.
Anonymous
July 17, 2005 11:51:20 PM

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I use ZA Firewall with AVG7 AV on one HD with Win ME, and ZA Firewall with
Norton System Works 2005 AV on the other HD with Win XP Home.

Ohhhh, you meant "How about ZA Firewall with Anti-virus?", geez, nobody got
that?
My answer is about subscriptions and lost license keys that never came with the
product! I bought ZA 4 (installed last year onto the Win Me drive) and that
required a few updates to ZA 5.5 or something. Just recently, I tried to install
the ZA 4 CD onto the new Win XP drive, and it said my software was
expired...7/2003! So, my CD must be too damn old! I had to get a trial version
from our DSL provider, and that expires this fall. Will I buy a ZA 5 CD off the
shelf at Staples for $40, or will I renew the subscriptions on each hard drive
for $19.99 a piece? If I installed the ZA 5 CD on each HD, will the
registrations collide and void one or both installations? I don't know.

But I do know that I should NOT have a Norton Firewall! Norton products screw up
so much, (but not on the Win XP installation yet); I want to keep a lot of these
security products as different brands on the machine so if one product goes
down, it doesn't take 3 other critical security applications down with it.
However, I have heard that McAfee does not play well with Norton, so if you have
Norton anything, avoid McAfee, and vice-versa (will this story EVER change?).
Anonymous
July 18, 2005 12:06:37 AM

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On my Win 98SE machine....I had Panda AV for 9 months until it wouldn't scan the
HD for viruses a couple of months ago, then I went to AVG7. Panda did update
virus definitions everyday, while a novice Norton AV User only gets updates
about once a week. AVG 7 updates everyday too.
This notice just came from Panda today. I won't be renewing.

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Anonymous
July 19, 2005 2:46:23 AM

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Sparda skrev:

> The main problem with ZA that i find is that it takes some time to

ZA also takes up much resources. On my XP system, VSMON is the process
that uses most RAM and most CPU time of all - over 26MB RAM usage :-(

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Anonymous
July 19, 2005 2:46:24 AM

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"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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> ZA also takes up much resources. On my XP system, VSMON is the
> process
> that uses most RAM and most CPU time of all - over 26MB RAM
> usage :-(


Nope, not here. I just checked. At the moment VSMON is using just
under 8MB.


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Anonymous
July 19, 2005 2:46:24 AM

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I am using 31,712k of RAM right now and zero CPU cycles. I am running
ZoneAlarm Security Suite 6.0.629.000 beta.

The vsmon usage varies with the ZA program you are using, I suppose.

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Richard Urban
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Quote from: George Ankner
"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
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> Sparda skrev:
>
>> The main problem with ZA that i find is that it takes some time to
>
> ZA also takes up much resources. On my XP system, VSMON is the process
> that uses most RAM and most CPU time of all - over 26MB RAM usage :-(
>
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
> WinXP, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!
July 19, 2005 6:35:36 AM

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"" wrote:
> I am using 31,712k of RAM right now and zero CPU cycles. I am
> running
> ZoneAlarm Security Suite 6.0.629.000 beta.
>
> The vsmon usage varies with the ZA program you are using, I
> suppose.
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>
> Quote from: George Ankner
> "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
> You would realize that you don't know what you thought you
> knew!"
>
> "Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
> news:yyUCe.950$jA4.8@amstwist00...
> > Sparda skrev:
> >
> >> The main problem with ZA that i find is that it takes some
> time to
> >
> > ZA also takes up much resources. On my XP system, VSMON is
> the process
> > that uses most RAM and most CPU time of all - over 26MB RAM
> usage :-(
> >
> > --
> > Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
> > WinXP, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!

It can use alot of memory, I find that if you leave a P2P client
running for a couple of hours vsmon will leak memory. For example, I
left eMule running all last night, and now vsmon as growen to use
161MB of RAM, I notice no lack of performance from my computer because
I have 1.5GB of RAM any way, but if you had 256MB of ram, that could
be a problem. The only aparent way to stop it using this amount of RAM
is to restart Zone Alarm.

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Anonymous
July 19, 2005 10:42:32 AM

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Or - stop using e-mule!

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Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User

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"If you knew as much as you thought you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!"

"Sparda" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
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> "" wrote:
> > I am using 31,712k of RAM right now and zero CPU cycles. I am
> > running
> > ZoneAlarm Security Suite 6.0.629.000 beta.
> >
> > The vsmon usage varies with the ZA program you are using, I
> > suppose.
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> >
> > Richard Urban
> > Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> >
> > Quote from: George Ankner
> > "If you knew as much as you thought you know,
> > You would realize that you don't know what you thought you
> > knew!"
> >
> > "Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
> > news:yyUCe.950$jA4.8@amstwist00...
> > > Sparda skrev:
> > >
> > >> The main problem with ZA that i find is that it takes some
> > time to
> > >
> > > ZA also takes up much resources. On my XP system, VSMON is
> > the process
> > > that uses most RAM and most CPU time of all - over 26MB RAM
> > usage :-(
> > >
> > > --
> > > Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
> > > WinXP, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!
>
> It can use alot of memory, I find that if you leave a P2P client
> running for a couple of hours vsmon will leak memory. For example, I
> left eMule running all last night, and now vsmon as growen to use
> 161MB of RAM, I notice no lack of performance from my computer because
> I have 1.5GB of RAM any way, but if you had 256MB of ram, that could
> be a problem. The only aparent way to stop it using this amount of RAM
> is to restart Zone Alarm.
>
> --
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> request
> Articles individually checked for conformance to usenet standards
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Anonymous
July 19, 2005 5:44:03 PM

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Ken Blake skrev:

> Nope, not here. I just checked. At the moment VSMON is using just
> under 8MB.

Mine does too at boottime, but check again after a few hours

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WinXP, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!
Anonymous
July 19, 2005 5:44:04 PM

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Just checked Vsmon, Memory usage @11 Meg w/ peak to 17.0,
but it's not unusual for it to average around 25.0

"Lars-Erik Østerud" <.@.> wrote in message
news:7I5De.967$jA4.629@amstwist00...
> Ken Blake skrev:
>
>> Nope, not here. I just checked. At the moment VSMON is using just
>> under 8MB.
>
> Mine does too at boottime, but check again after a few hours
>
> --
> Lars-Erik - http://home.chello.no/~larse/ - ICQ 7297605
> WinXP, Asus P4PE, 2.53 GHz, Asus V8420 (Ti4200), SB-Live!
Anonymous
July 19, 2005 5:44:04 PM

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In news:7I5De.967$jA4.629@amstwist00,
Lars-Erik Østerud <.@.> typed:

> Ken Blake skrev:
>
>> Nope, not here. I just checked. At the moment VSMON is using
>> just
>> under 8MB.
>
> Mine does too at boottime, but check again after a few hours


When I posted yesterday, it had been about eight hours since I
had booted. It's now about two hours since I booted this morning,
and it's again just under 8MB.

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Anonymous
July 19, 2005 5:44:05 PM

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Yes, mine has been booted for 7.5 hours now and Vsmon is now
at 20 Meg w/ peak at 22 Meg. It's risen by 9 Megabytes over the
past 3 hours. Can't see any appreciable change in other parameters
other than the page faults is in excess of 65K.

"Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
news:u9yqUnHjFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> In news:7I5De.967$jA4.629@amstwist00,
> Lars-Erik Østerud <.@.> typed:
>
>> Ken Blake skrev:
>>
>>> Nope, not here. I just checked. At the moment VSMON is using just
>>> under 8MB.
>>
>> Mine does too at boottime, but check again after a few hours
>
>
> When I posted yesterday, it had been about eight hours since I had booted.
> It's now about two hours since I booted this morning, and it's again just
> under 8MB.
>
> --
> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
> Please reply to the newsgroup
>
Anonymous
July 19, 2005 5:44:06 PM

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In news:o 2VaGvHjFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
R. McCarty <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> typed:

> Yes, mine has been booted for 7.5 hours now and Vsmon is now
> at 20 Meg w/ peak at 22 Meg. It's risen by 9 Megabytes over
> the
> past 3 hours. Can't see any appreciable change in other
> parameters
> other than the page faults is in excess of 65K.


I just checked again--now five hours after booting. It's gone up
*very* slightly--now just over 8MB.


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> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in message
> news:u9yqUnHjFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> In news:7I5De.967$jA4.629@amstwist00,
>> Lars-Erik Østerud <.@.> typed:
>>
>>> Ken Blake skrev:
>>>
>>>> Nope, not here. I just checked. At the moment VSMON is using
>>>> just
>>>> under 8MB.
>>>
>>> Mine does too at boottime, but check again after a few hours
>>
>>
>> When I posted yesterday, it had been about eight hours since I
>> had
>> booted. It's now about two hours since I booted this morning,
>> and
>> it's again just under 8MB.
>>
>> --
>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>> Please reply to the newsgroup
Anonymous
July 19, 2005 5:45:38 PM

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Richard Urban [MVP] skrev:

> The vsmon usage varies with the ZA program you are using, I suppose.

I have disabled most modules, except the firewall. Doesn't help.
Besides the VSMON service is common for all ZA modules, isn't it

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Anonymous
July 19, 2005 6:07:24 PM

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In news:eFarUaJjFHA.576@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl,
Ken Blake <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> typed:

> In news:o 2VaGvHjFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl,
> R. McCarty <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@mindspring.com> typed:
>
>> Yes, mine has been booted for 7.5 hours now and Vsmon is now
>> at 20 Meg w/ peak at 22 Meg. It's risen by 9 Megabytes over
>> the
>> past 3 hours. Can't see any appreciable change in other
>> parameters
>> other than the page faults is in excess of 65K.
>
>
> I just checked again--now five hours after booting. It's gone
> up
> *very* slightly--now just over 8MB.


It's now seven hours after booting. Still just over 8MB.

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Please reply to the newsgroup


>> "Ken Blake" <kblake@this.is.an.invalid.domain> wrote in
>> message
>> news:u9yqUnHjFHA.3064@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>> In news:7I5De.967$jA4.629@amstwist00,
>>> Lars-Erik Østerud <.@.> typed:
>>>
>>>> Ken Blake skrev:
>>>>
>>>>> Nope, not here. I just checked. At the moment VSMON is
>>>>> using
>>>>> just
>>>>> under 8MB.
>>>>
>>>> Mine does too at boottime, but check again after a few hours
>>>
>>>
>>> When I posted yesterday, it had been about eight hours since
>>> I
>>> had
>>> booted. It's now about two hours since I booted this morning,
>>> and
>>> it's again just under 8MB.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
>>> Please reply to the newsgroup
Anonymous
July 20, 2005 12:11:16 AM

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"Sparda" <UseLinkToEmail@WindowsForumz.com> wrote in message
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>>ZA also takes up much resources. On my XP system, VSMON in the process that
uses most RAM and most CPU time of all - over 26MB RAM usage :-(
>
> It can use alot of memory, I find that if you leave a P2P client
> running for a couple of hours vsmon will leak memory. For example, I
> left eMule running all last night, and now vsmon as growen to use
> 161MB of RAM, I notice no lack of performance from my computer because
> I have 1.5GB of RAM any way, but if you had 256MB of ram, that could
> be a problem. The only aparent way to stop it using this amount of RAM
> is to restart Zone Alarm.
>

If your P2P is using 8 connections, that may be why ZA is using 8 times as much
RAM. (just a thought about an unknown). Thanks for the warning about RAM use on
this subject.

I had a problem with Logitech Desktop Messenger being blocked by ZA and the LDM
did not give up. My CPU cycles locked at 100% and my machine sounded like it was
going to explode. I had to uninstall LDM from Add/Remove Programs for each User.
!