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The_Blood_Raven   02-12-2008 at 08:47:44 PM

Now I have done weeks of research, and am to where I know the information that I require, but that still does not replace experience. The question is:

I want a monitor that will look great watching movies, will not have to be upgraded for years, plays games to there most without ghosting, and doing all this with the option of 1920x1200 res (1920x1080 of course for 1080p res). Also I do not want a TN panel monitor, and I would love suggestions on monitors or your opinion on these:

Lenovo ThinkVision L220X $500:
http://www.bestbuybusiness.com/bbf [...] BB10823928

Dell UltraSharp 2407WFP-HC $700:
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna [...] id=0&lid=0

Also, I have experienced gaming, and movies on this monitor. I was not impressed in the slightest, it had a lot of ghosting and movies were terrible, and I am also wondering if it is not just that particular one, if so than I must contact my friend who owns the monitor:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applica [...] CatId=2775


I perfer the Lenovo, not just because of the much better price, but its also 22 in which I find ideal for gaming, 24 in being too big to sit in front of. The Dell I like because I can find a lot of reviews on it and know what I am getting.
Also I do not want to go over $700, and am not sure I can spend that much to begin with, so price is an objective. If nothing else please give me your opinions on my selection and/or preferences. Thank You.

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MagicPants   02-13-2008 at 11:38:15 PM
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The Lenovo is very likely a TN panel. I've only ever heard of one non TN 22" panel and it was very expensive.

The Samsung 245BW is also a TN panel.

To find PVA,IPS monitors look for 24" panels with a viewing angle greater than 175 and a gtg response time of 5ms or longer.

The Dell is not TN it is PVA or some variation there of (it's not IPS).

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The_Blood_Raven   02-14-2008 at 12:18:01 AM
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MagicPants wrote :

The Lenovo is very likely a TN panel. I've only ever heard of one non TN 22" panel and it was very expensive.

The Samsung 245BW is also a TN panel.

To find PVA,IPS monitors look for 24" panels with a viewing angle greater than 175 and a gtg response time of 5ms or longer.

The Dell is not TN it is PVA or some variation there of (it's not IPS).



Viewing Angle: 178/178 = the Lenovo is not TN


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jaguarskx   02-14-2008 at 02:10:41 AM
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MagicPants wrote :

The Lenovo is very likely a TN panel. I've only ever heard of one non TN 22" panel and it was very expensive.



The Lenovo ThinkVision L220x is the first consumer level 22" LCD monitor to use a S-PVA panel and it has a resolution of 1920 x 1200.

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MagicPants   02-14-2008 at 02:36:59 AM
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jaguarskx wrote :

The Lenovo ThinkVision L220x is the first consumer level 22" LCD monitor to use a S-PVA panel and it has a resolution of 1920 x 1200.



Good to know.

Just FYI I've been checking newegg and about half their 24" non-TN panels are gone. It's getting depressing. At least Dell still offers a decent 24" panel.

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The_Blood_Raven   02-15-2008 at 03:48:32 AM
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Please answer my original post, I like the Lenovo, my hesitancy stems from the fact that the monitor is extremely limited on reviews, and I can not tell either way whether it is fast enough for gaming or not. I want a monitor that looks beautiful, is worth powering with a monster video card, and will get none or almost no ghosting. I'm not paying a large sum of money for a beautifully displayed landscape, but with half the screen filled with the character ghosting to hell and back. Even any barely noticable ghosting is unacceptable. Any suggestions, comments, or experiences will help greatly.

Thank you.


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realzeus   02-15-2008 at 07:19:18 PM
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Get a CRT then mate.

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MagicPants   02-17-2008 at 08:33:02 PM
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The Lenovo seems good to me but you're right in that there aren't any good reviews of it. I found two online reviews and while both where very positive neither one was done by someone technical; they didn't measure the color range, ghosting, or input lag and just reiterated the manufacturer's specs.

Personally I use a Planar PX2611w for gaming. It's 26", 1920x1200, no ghosting, great color, and 16ms total input lag.

Downsides are it's blacks aren't as deep as a VA panel, and there is a little banding in 1080p.

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The_Blood_Raven   02-18-2008 at 02:14:13 AM
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MagicPants wrote :

The Lenovo seems good to me but you're right in that there aren't any good reviews of it. I found two online reviews and while both where very positive neither one was done by someone technical; they didn't measure the color range, ghosting, or input lag and just reiterated the manufacturer's specs.

Personally I use a Planar PX2611w for gaming. It's 26", 1920x1200, no ghosting, great color, and 16ms total input lag.

Downsides are it's blacks aren't as deep as a VA panel, and there is a little banding in 1080p.




That is a great summery of the reviews out for the lenovo, and I like the Planar you have, its a little expensive, but the main problem is the size, 26" seems a little bit large for PC gaming, and generally sitting less than 2 feet away from the screen. Thank you magicpants for your post, and telling me what I need to hear, you are the first. I will keep the Planar in mind.


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jaguarskx   02-18-2008 at 03:55:52 AM
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Then get a 24" BenQ FP241W.

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The_Blood_Raven   02-18-2008 at 10:59:35 PM
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jaguarskx wrote :

Then get a 24" BenQ FP241W.



I like the FP241W, but it seems to be impossible to find at a decent price point. The FP241VW can be however, and as I understand it, the VW has the exact same panel as the W and WZ, and looks the same. Is this true? If so then we may have a definate winner.

Thank you all, and especially thank you Jag.

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jaguarskx   02-19-2008 at 06:49:23 AM
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The BenQ FP241W uses a S-PVA panel, unless BenQ has released a newer version uses a A-MVA panel. I never really researched the FP241VW, but from what I remember it uses a A-MVA panel made by AUO.

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