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February 11, 2005 3:37:39 PM

Which TCCD modules would you choose for your AMD system --best performance? (look how sneaky I am, disguising my upgrade question in a poll-- $250 max for 2x512 stix)
....and yes, serious overclocking will be done!

-- the Doc

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February 16, 2005 5:54:56 PM

So you like this stuff over the Corsair 4400C25 modules? I'll have to look into them a little more. The rig you see in my sig is about to become a secondary rig. In the process of putting together an A64 rig. Seems like TCCD is the way to go. The ballistix were quite tempting, but doesn't seem as though I'll be able to push them as hard.
Anyways, thanks for the info. man... (not to create another 939 vs 754 argument, but yeah, I'll get 2x512 for it's 939 for me!)

-- the Doc

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February 16, 2005 11:32:56 PM

agreed, go with patriot from pdp or crucial ballistix

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February 17, 2005 4:33:56 PM

Yeah, I usually don't like Corsair either. As for the LED's, completely pointless. I've almost always found myself buying Mushkin, even after other serious considerations.
Check these out: <A HREF="http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=2312&p=7" target="_new">CMX512-4400C25P</A>

You'll see that they show them overclocking very well...beyond the ballistix even. There are things that don't add up in their reviews quite often, so I'm always skeptical when I read their reviews.
Anyways, do you have any links to reviews on those G.Skill modules? I found another variant of those as well.... LC in addition to the LE and LD that you mentioned.

-- the Doc

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512mb Mushkin 3500 Level II@472 (2-2-2)
R9800Pro@463/380
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WD 80gb(SE)x2(RAID 0)
February 17, 2005 5:36:57 PM

You know what? I didn't even pay attention to the fact that those G.Skill modules are in the review I listed. In that review, they have the ballistix and the corsairs performing better than those G.Skill modules until the very end. The OCZ 3200 revision 2's look pretty good too....hmmmmm, I might have to buy my first set of corsairs that I've purchased in a long time, or buy my first OCZ ever.

-- the Doc

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February 17, 2005 9:11:23 PM

Thanks for all the info. man. That review shows the corsair and the g.skills you told me about as the top performers. I might have to get those g.skills just to say I did...ha! :tongue:

I'll let you know what my decision is and post results after I get the system built.

-- the Doc

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March 15, 2005 5:30:10 PM

Well, I haven't had the chance to get the system finished yet, haven't even ordered all the parts yet. Work has been nutz, and haven't had time to eat let alone build.
I was looking back over some of the memory data and it looks like, after all that research about the past TCCD's, I might go with the OCZ VX's.
Anyways, just giving you an update.

-- the Doc

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March 16, 2005 4:47:15 PM

Damn! I WAS going to go with the DFI, but now this opens up other doors. I noticed that support info. isn't provided for most of the new NF4 boards. Perhaps they'll test them soon and let us know. If the NF4 gigabyte boards get support, I'll go with one of them. They are feature rich, and the main reason I wasn't considering one of them is because of the limited voltage options.
Nice find man. I hadn't seen these before, and the article says it was written in 2004. So they've been out for a little while. I might have to give OCZ a call and see if I can get some info. on compatibility, other than what's stated on the site. A disappointing fact about this module is that it says it will only operate with a 20pin ATX connector, not the 24pin. Perhaps support for this will change in the near future as well.
Anyways, thanx for the info. man!

-- the Doc

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P4 2.8C@3.4
512mb Mushkin 3500 Level II@472 (2-2-2)
R9800Pro@463/380
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WD 80gb(SE)x2(RAID 0)
March 16, 2005 5:49:35 PM

Nice linkage. Wish i had found that b4 i bought my patriot stuff. However, it doesn't really matter since i liked the ram anyway. Maybe with the upcoming 1007 update i'll get a little better performance with my asus board. Mb i'll win the lottery too...

Current machines running F@H:
AMD: [64 3500+][64 3000+][2500+][2000+][1.3x1][366]
Intel: [X 3.0][P4 3.0][P4 2.4x5][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL Time
March 16, 2005 8:48:13 PM

I hear ya. I'll take another look at the MSI board. The gigabyte board used in my "sig-rig" overclocks well for that chipset. There's no exotic cooling currently in that system, just air. It's been running at that speed 24/7 since the day I bought it, without problems. I bet I could have pushed it more if I would have been able to give the RAM more juice. They never have offered great vdimm options, just acceptable options. The rig was originally built to run my chemical emulation programs for work, gaming, some lite video editing and capture, and of course the satisfaction of having a sweet rig that was self built. Now the new rig will take on those responsibilities, and I will have to find a use for the old one, or sell it. It's too much muscle for a server, so not sure what I'm going to do with it yet.
In the end, I'll probably end up with the DFI board.

-- the Doc

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R9800Pro@463/380
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March 16, 2005 8:54:22 PM

Check it out Wusy, you popped my "enthusiast cherry." :redface:

-- the Doc

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March 17, 2005 2:04:43 AM

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</pre><p> Behind the Looking Glass..........

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And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>
March 17, 2005 3:44:36 AM

You must be a CAD designer or such! Brilliant work! :smile:

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March 17, 2005 3:51:02 AM

For the past 15 years...

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And the sign says "You got to have a membership card to get inside" Huh
So I got me a pen and paper And I made up my own little sign</pre><p></font color=red>
March 17, 2005 5:27:07 PM

Eh, I'm not looking for the finish line; I just like running. And damn, you just pop my cherry and leave? (feels used) :tongue: I don't get to post as much as I would like. I've been posting in THGC for many years now, and have just hit enthusiast.
Anyways, going to order the watercooling system for the rig this weekend, one step closer to the big "O".

-- the Doc

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512mb Mushkin 3500 Level II@472 (2-2-2)
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March 18, 2005 12:53:36 AM

Yup, that's still what I do. That's great man. It's a lot of work and you may find yourself getting discouraged, but stick with it. It will pay off in the end. And I don't just mean monetarily; I mean intellectualy as well (rewarding in ways you can't imagine).
I'll keep you posted on the system build. If you would like to talk about any subjects outside the realm of computers, feel free to PM me and we can go from there.

-- the Doc

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P4 2.8C@3.4
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May 5, 2005 11:58:12 PM

Alright, going to make this post active again. Can you believe it took me this long to get all my stuff and get it together?
Anyways, the system is now built, but I haven't done any overclocking yet. I'll start this weekend and let you know how it goes.
I guess I should change my sig....

-- the Doc

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512mb Mushkin 3500 Level II@472 (2-2-2)
R9800Pro@463/380
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May 6, 2005 12:17:14 AM

Here we go...I'll add the watercooling system on here just to show the sig.

eheim 1260, TDX copper, BlackIceXtreme Radiator, 1/2 tubing, dual 5 1/4 bay resevoir....
I'll get into more detail this weekend. I haven't purchased a GPU block yet, for I want to see what the stock cooling can do. Damn things is huge!
Oh, and I'm sure I'll get questions about the SLI board and the ATI choice. I'll explain this one on the weekend as well.

-- the Doc

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May 6, 2005 6:30:43 PM

It's friday...that counts as weekend!!! Where's the benchies... You definately should have taken the day off so you could keep us from doing work...at work...by having us read all your benchies! GL this weekend. Btw, are those tccd or bh-x sticks? Gotta get back to the <i>W</i> word.

Current machines running F@H:
AMD: [64 3500+][64 3000+][2500+][2000+][1.3x2][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL Time
May 6, 2005 6:33:07 PM

I have a little time at work, so I'll respond to the motherboard question. I had to RMA another item and ended up getting credit for it(criticool powerplant 2). I found the criticool locally and didn't have to reorder. The credit wasn't enough to really get anything, so I was going to just call it a wash. I later ordered the ultra-D motherboard, and when it arrived, they had sent me the sli-DR and used my credit without asking me...kinda strange. Since I planned on loosing it anyways, I just kept the board. It will be of no use really, unless I plan to use another large vid card, which I could have done with the ultra-D as well.
Oh well, no loss....

-- the Doc

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May 6, 2005 8:18:07 PM

I'm going to send your post to my boss and see if they'll let me go home early. If they do, I'll send ya a case of single barrel Jack.
I'm simply itch'n to get home and see what she can do! I'll be posting benchies this weekend!!
As for the chips, they are winbond/UTT.

-- the Doc

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Sapphire X850XT
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WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 6, 2005 9:20:21 PM

LOL...i'll get you that address...just one moment...

Current machines running F@H:
AMD: [64 3500+][64 3000+][2500+][2000+][1.3x2][366]
Intel: [X 3.0x3][P4 3.0x2][P4 2.4x5][P4 1.4]

"...and i'm not gay" RX8 -Greatest Quote of ALL Time
May 7, 2005 12:25:48 AM

Yeah, I'm still at work, but I'm leaving right now. This means you don't get the case, but you can come out and drink with us tonight if ya like. I drink nothing but single barrel.

-- the Doc

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May 9, 2005 1:19:59 AM

It ended up being a busy weekend, so I'll start with just stock benchies.

3Dmark 2001: 26317

3Dmark 2003: 11873

3Dmark 2005: 5759

Going to work a little on mem timings and CPU adjustment before I get into the vid card.
I'll keep ya posted. :tongue:

-- the Doc

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May 11, 2005 6:35:04 PM

Ok.....this isn't exactly the place for this, but since I'm putting the results of my adventure here, I'll include this.
I was going to put some AS5 and take the shim off my graphics card, but damn if I couldn't get the damn thing off. I used a knife, I tried freezing the card to get it to come off, but no dice. I think I'm going to try an artist's knife tonight since it's hellasharp.
Do you guys have anymore suggestions?

-- the Doc

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WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 12, 2005 12:14:04 AM

Alright, going home here soon and I'll try it out.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 12, 2005 7:30:28 PM

The artist knife worked. I applied some AS5 and put the stock cooler back on. Whe I first booted, I had a temp of 38 showing. I was very happy for the temp before that was 46. What I noticed on the next reboot though, was that the temp was now 43....bummer. I'll wait a little while until the AS5 settles out before I go through the process of reseating the heatsink again. Although 3 degrees drop isn't bad at all, I wanted a little more.
That's my update for today.

-- the Doc

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May 12, 2005 11:25:47 PM

Yeah, I heard they rock!
If I go with alternative cooling, I'll just get a maze4 and put it in the water cooling loop. We'll see how far I can take it on stock.
You'd think with that huge damn cooling solution (I'm sure a good amount of the cards cost) you'd get better temps than that. The metal cooling strip they put on the back of the card has some white adhesive of some kind all over it. In addition, where the memory chips touch the metal strip, there are small pads that look like band-aids that are the contact points. I'm thinking to myself, no wonder the damn thing isn't cooling as it should. I debated taking the damn things off and slapping some AS5 on there too, but didn't mess with that yet.

-- the Doc

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May 13, 2005 12:22:42 AM

Oh, I definitely intend to push the CPU to the limits. What do you think the max voltage I could put on this sucker would be? As for the radiators, here's what the final setup will be:

I'm going to keep the blackice extreme in the case. I'm going to build a plexiglass external box where I'll put the eheim 1260 (should have plenty of head pressure to accomodate the setup) and an additional radiator (BIX2), and of course some stuff to make it look cool as chit!

-- the Doc

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May 13, 2005 5:33:02 PM

Exactly.....it should keep things nice and cool. I just have to build an external plexi box or get one made. It's the one item I'm not sure how to tackle yet.
Why did you give up on water man? It has great potential. What are you using now?
Also, is there a voltage ceiling that you know of? I've heard of some people taking the voltage on these things to 1.9....that just doesn't seem necessary....and it seems risky.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 13, 2005 9:02:53 PM

Should I change this thread to Wusy & DrJeckyl behind the looking glass? :tongue:

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 13, 2005 11:22:14 PM

Yeah, that sounds like a great idea. I think I'll make the top portion of the box the removable portion. This way the weight of the radiators will hold it tight against the sides and keep the pressure. Remember, I also plan to put the pump in the box. I don't want to lose a lot of pressure from where I put the tubes in either, so I'll have to get some kind of rubber fittings to put in the holes for the tubes to go through.

Damn, I'm freak'n excited now!!! I wanna build the damn thing now! I really don't have any kind of experience with building a box like this, so I will most likely have to get someone to build it for me. Maybe I can get a guy at a car audio shop to build me one. They can build'm for the car, so they can build'm for my computer.

Anyways, quick update on the overclock. I'm staying with the cpu and mem first before I go to the vid card. It will be interesting to see how my scores ramp by just overclocking those, then how far they ramp with the vid card by itself. I'll bench the system tonight with the recent settings I'm running stable at. I have it at 2400, 240 on the mem; 1.425v on the cpu, and 3.4v on the mem running at 2-2-2-6. Cpu temps at Idle are 31 and at load are a mere 33. So far it looks like it has good potential.

-- the Doc

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May 14, 2005 12:07:22 AM

Maybe I should have you build it man!! :tongue:

-- the Doc

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WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 15, 2005 12:08:37 AM

Alright, latest update.
2500@ 1.5v (31@idle, 34@load)
250@ 3.6v (2-2-2-7)
vid card still at stock

3DMark2001: 27755

3DMark2003: 12671

3DMark2005: 5885

For some reason I can't get aquamark to run all the way through. Does anyone know of any incompatibility issues with my setup and aquamark?
I'm going to check out the web page and see if I can find anything about it. I know it's not instability, for it's running all the others fine, and prime95 runs for 9 hours with no problems at all.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 15, 2005 12:39:25 AM

Yup, it crashes to the desktop. I found a patch on the aquamark site. It appears they've been having some issues with new graphics hardware. It runs fine now.
Current aquamark3 score: 78227

As for getting rid of the smaller raptor, you're right. It would make the boot partition much faster. The only thing is, I don't need 140 gigs for my boot partition and I don't want to partition the boot drive and put anything else on it....swap goes on the raptor array, backup partition, and so does storage. If I could find another really fast small drive, I'd do it. Maybe I'll search a little for a 10k barracuda. If I were to get the 250 sata drives, I'd want something fast as well. Maybe some barracudas, diamondmax 10s...haven't really given it that much thought. I'll do some research and see what options there are.
If I were to put the raptor array as the boot drive, what drives would you suggest for storage?

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 15, 2005 1:14:38 AM

Yup, it's true that games are getting bigger and bigger. Right now I have quite a few games loaded on my system and still only sitting at about 17.5 gigs total. If I see that it's getting full, I'll most likely make the switch.
I have to tell you, these drives are lightning fast man. It really seems as though there's no access lag even now. I use a chemical emulation program on this system as well. The program is stored on the boot drive, but the data is on the array. I need fast access times for this data. Right now the data for that program is about 60gigs. I thought about an scsi setup. It's actually very tempting! I'll have to look into that later when the drive gets closer to being full.
As for the swap file, yeah....I have 400MB at the begining of the raptor array.
On another note, do you see those temps man? I'm a excited about the potential I'm seeing here. Not getting that hot at all yet, so I'm sure I still have plenty of headroom.

-- the Doc

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Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 16, 2005 5:30:39 PM

Yup, I know it. The temps regularly are off, and sometimes by quite a bit. I will say this, that the temps shown in the bios and on the monitor inside windows are always within 1 or 2 degrees of each other.
I hit 260 stable with the same mem voltage that you see in my last post and with 1.7 on the core; temps went up quite a bit though. I was hitting 37@idle and 40@load, sometimes even 41. Still not bad for such a high overclock and voltage. I bumped it up to 270 before benching at 260, and couldn't get it to run prime95 stable for more than 10 minutes. I think I'm going to have to back up and test the CPU and MEM seperately to see what I have to work with. I can't wait to start working on ramping the vid card, but I want to see what this maxes out at first.
So far, 260 seems to be the sweet spot. And no matter what I hit after for benching purposes, 260 will be where I leave it 24/7.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 17, 2005 7:33:02 PM

HSF?....on the CPU? I'm watercooled man. On the vid card it's still all stock. I'll be getting a maze4 a little later when I'm ready to build that plexi box we spoke about.
In addition, I'm going to get a higher CFM side fan for my side panel window. I want a little more air blowing on that memory. Having to run at those voltages makes them very hot.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 17, 2005 11:15:12 PM

Yeah, the temps are pretty good. They should get a little better once I've built the plexi box and have it all moved to there.
What would you say the max voltage on the CPU is man? I know it's usually safe to say if your temps are good and you're running stable, then don't worry about it, but.... what ceiling are people hitting with these things? I could do some more research on it, but I'm gonna cheat and ask you :tongue:

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 18, 2005 12:21:16 AM

Yeah, I felt pretty comfortable at 1.7 because of the temps, but 1.7 is scary already. I'll see how the temps ramp.
Wanna help me build this box man?

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 18, 2005 5:32:35 PM

I hear that man. That's why I'm pretty sure I'm going to have it built. It would be cool as chit to say I built it myself, but I just don't have the time. I'll take credit for the idea and implementation of the design and hardware.
I actually won't be able to bench until next week again. It seems as though things have gotten busier when they were supposed to be getting slower.
On another note, what do you use as backup software? I checked out norton ghost 9.0, but in my opinion, it sucks! Do you have any alternatives?
How's the vet school going? How many more p*ssies will you have to stick your hands in before you're done? :tongue: I believe you should be done for the semester pretty soon now.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
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WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 18, 2005 10:48:26 PM

Yup, I remember man. It wears on you sometimes, but once you get into a rhythm, you won't even notice that you're tired and hungry. There were quite a few times when I would go for days with no sleep.
Yeah, I don't even have a RAID array for my boot drive and I still can't find decent software. With all this overclocking, there's a good chance my data will get corrupted from time to time; so it's good to have that back up.
Oh well...maybe I'll buy a cheap drive I can keep just for backup and copy the boot partition to it, take it out of the computer, and use it to copy to the boot partition in the event of data corruption.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 23, 2005 10:52:42 AM

Your 05 and 03 scores are a little low arent they? Im guessing that your OCd while benchmarking?

Intel P4 550(3.4)@<font color=green>5Ghz</font color=green>
Asus P5AD2-E-Premium
Crucial Ballistix DDR2 667@<font color=red>DDR2 800<font color=red> Owned!
TT 680W PSU
May 23, 2005 10:55:01 AM

How much RAM is your system using under task manager after you boot up?

Intel P4 550(3.4)@<font color=green>5Ghz</font color=green>
Asus P5AD2-E-Premium
Crucial Ballistix DDR2 667@<font color=red>DDR2 800<font color=red> Owned!
TT 680W PSU
May 23, 2005 8:48:53 PM

Yup, I'm overclocked while benching, but not the vid card yet. Only the cpu & ram for right now. When I checked my stock benchies against others, they looked pretty average; some were a little higher and some a little lower. I haven't compared the overclocked benchies yet. I'm assuming you were looking at my bench scores at 2.5 listed on the previous page. What should the score be at this speed with no overclock on the vid card?
As for how much RAM is use at boot, I won't be able to tell you until this weekend. One of the modules fried and new ones are on the way back to me as we speak.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 23, 2005 9:03:00 PM

I just checked the orb at that speed, and I'm the fastest computer with those same settings.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 24, 2005 8:08:22 PM

Yup, I sure do. Believe it or not, I think it's going to be the memory in the end. The CPU stays cool and hasn't performed with any errors yet. The mobo I believe can take MUCH more than what I'm throwing at it. The mem seems to get very hot at those voltages, and was always the component I had to adjust when ramping.
The mem will perform @250-260 just as well as TCCD sitting at around 300, so anything over that is just gravy. It's going to be fun trying to ramp up the speed 1:1. I think in the end I might have to use a divider to get the CPU@3.0Ghz+, and the memory sitting around 260-270....we'll see.
As for the cooling system, hell yeah! Since I'll soon know how far the other components can go, it's time to get this system finished. It looks as though I'll be getting someone to build the plexi box for me. I could do it, but it would take me longer and I just don't have the time. Also, I might end up with some active cooling on those mem modules.

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 24, 2005 11:34:01 PM

Excellent! I haven't pushed it that far yet, but I'll check it out tonight and let you know what the highest setting in the bios is. This board already has active chipset cooling. I think that should be more than enough. Were they hitting that 400 HTT with this OCZ VX stuff I got? And if they were, were they hitting it at 1:1? They were most likely hitting that with some TCCD modules.
I think if I can push the CPU to over 3Ghz and get the memory to 270, I'll be in good shape. Anything over that will just be f'n gravy man!

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
May 24, 2005 11:59:08 PM

And that was with the mem modules I have or some TCCD module?

-- the Doc

LanPartUT SLI-DR
A64 3200+
1GB OCZ VX Gold PC4000
Sapphire X850XT
WD360GD (boot drive)
WD740GDx2(RAID 0)
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