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Dell 2408WFP review from a Layman`s Point of View

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April 2, 2008 11:24:08 PM

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Dell 2408WFP UltraSharp™ WideScreen Flat Panel Monitor




This is my 5th LCD in past 2 years. This time I wanted to buy something which will last me at least till the monitor is covered under its warranty period.

After much deliberation and thinking I decided to buy something big and worthy of the money I would be investing. My initial selection was DELL E248WFP, but once who suffers the pain of using a TN panel LCD , won’t bother to buy it again.

Luck Fetched well. Was offered a DELL 2408WFP with 5yr Replacement Warranty for the price of 25000 rupees (596 $ US ), the actual cost for the same in india is 1200$ USD or 54000 rupees. Asked my Mom if I could buy it, she readily agreed once I told her about the viewing angles issues getting fixed and HD resolution (she loves watching HINDI DVD`s and quality Hollywood HD releases).

I read many reviews of DELL 2408WFP criticizing it about many issues.
For E.g. Very High Input Lag, Color shift issues, Pink tones and what not :D 
But still I succumbed to the very opportunity and my LUST for watching high definition movies without caring about where and how I am sitting against the LCD.

Payment was Made and at last I received my DELL 2408WFP on March 26/3/2008 (within 6 days after processing the order).

Here are the Manufacturers Specifications for the same:


24-inch WUXGA 1920 x 1200 Monitor – View 43% more screen area & 30%2 more pixel content on-screen compared any Dell 20-inch monitor.

6 Millisecond Response Time (typical) – Reduces ghosting and imaging associated with movement for fluid motion.

3000:1 Dynamic Contrast Ratio – Get dark blacks, sharp images, crisp text, brilliant color saturation and greater life-like detail.

110%3 Color Gamut (CIE 1976) - With Dell TrueColorTM Technology, you’ll see more color than average monitor of 72% color gamut.

Full HD 1080p – Supports higher definition than HD television and a wide array of HD connection options like HDMI, Display Port, DVI-D with HDCP and HDMI 2.1 Audio Out.




Whats under the HOOD?


PACKAGING:

Very nicely packed as it is with all DELL LCD`s. The Box contained set of a few manuals, A DVI Cable, USB Cable, Display port Cable, and Vga Cable. It also contained the Power Cord in another small box.
I expected a LCD cleaning Cloth to be there but it was nowhere to be found.


AESTHETICS:


The LCD just looks brilliant. Nicely coated with black color, bezel forms the border of LCD. Screen has a matte finish to it. No reflection of whatsoever occurs with lights surrounding the place. There`s a big DELL logo right in the centre of the lower side of the bezel. All my earlier LCD`s just can’t match the strength and outstanding quality of this nicely built monitor.

Nice and Hefty, tripod type stand is provided with the LCD. After mounting the LCD the STAND stands firm as anyone would expect after paying such a price (25k is good for this LCD but still it’s freaking 25k).
Using monitor customization button does make the LCD jiggle a bit.

Looooooks pretty awesome from anywhere you try to look at it. Has silver color frame behind protecting the Display along with vents for dissipation of heat.











ERGONOMICS and FEATURES


Weight distribution of LCD over the stand is Even. The stand is just too good, feels good, and looks good. It has the pivot mode, turns very easily due to some turntable mechanism present in the stand.
Height adjustment and tilting is also very smooth. Just a slight-forceful touch makes the LCD go right up n down.

Control buttons are very nicely placed. They are quite big. Only the power button has green color LED present which does not distract while looking at the display.



It easily detected the DVI Input source and worked more of like a plug and play device. Source selection button has to be pressed each time the source is changed. No AUTO-MODE here. I would be using this LCD along with my PC; hence I don’t mind the source selection issue.

Attaching the wires behind was easy. A small gap of 2-3 inches is provided for cable management behind.

The LCD comprises of just too many INPUT options. It just tries and does manage to make everyone happy with its huge array of INPUT ports present nicely behind.











It has a Media Card reader on the Left side along with 2 USB ports and more 2USB ports behind.No need to install any drivers for the same, everything gets auto detected in Windows Vista 32-bit.

The OSD is simple and very easy to manage once you go thru it properly. Many options are present in the OSD. From regular Brightness/Contrast change to Sharpness Control (0-25-50-100 presets), fill mode, position etc.

As I said earlier, the DELL 2408WFP has too much of inputs behind: VGA (Analog), DVI-D (Digital) with HDCP, S-Video, Composite-video, Component-video, HDMI, Display Port, and Stereo Audio-output.

















INITIAL reactions !!!!


INITIAL REACTION:


For the price I got it at (25k), I think this is the best money can buy. To be frank I don’t really understand the concept of color gamut etc nor do I have time now to research about all these (my exams are due soon, still writing the review). Hence I would lend you all my First Hand experience.









Oh! What in the Hell name is this …? Are my eyes burning……????

The Display was just way too bright out of the box. Contrast was just exact. Colors looked good, although I did believe Calibration would get the best out of it. Brightness and Contrast both were preset at 50 (aaah! my eyes again, LOL)

The left side of the LCD is brighter than the right side (to some it’s a big issue to me its not)
The right bottom side of the LCD had a pinkish tone which actually did bother me. It dint pose to be a problem while watching movies or games but it did irritate while doing anything on white background especially documenting work and browsing through web.

Dynamic contrast of 3000:1 is just Waste. If switched on, it constantly changes the brightness levels as per the background which is very annoying. Games do look really good if Dynamic Contrast is on BTW.

Sharpness was set to 50 and fonts did look pixilated.





FIDDLING WITH SETTINGS:

Hence did some research and tried some settings ….. And Walla!
Things suddenly started to look exactly as they were meant to be.

After fiddling long enough with the settings of the LCD, I am stating the best possible calibration settings I reached at, which also resulted in very high reduction of pinkish (now it’s almost negligible and does not irritate anymore) tone as well as producing best possible colors to my naked EYES. :p 

I dint try any other input source except the DVI port and VGA. VGA looked plain OK, but DVI just looked marvelous. Colors were right on. Sharpness above 25 is not recommended as it pixilated the fonts. 25 is just right.

Brightness: 10-12
Contrast: 45-50
Sharpness: 25
Red: 92
Green: 100
Blue: 92

Pictures just look great on this monitor (high resolution and low both), Details are exact. Games look praise worthy and HD videos look mind blowing. If a picture has some defect, you can easily detect it.





Display in Action


DISPLAY IN ACTION:

Scaling quality is good. Text looks good but not as good as CRT`s, Games look brilliant.
The monitor does allow 1:1 fill. Watching a low aspect ratio Video, results in black area on the up-down unused side of the screen. Hence it is user dependent.

Input Lag (heard a lot about it other`s review) was just unnoticeable. Played CALL of DUTY 4 and Counter Strike Source both online to be sure about it. Head shots were right on, everything happened right when I clicked/expected. The 6ms does not look slow in comparison to my earlier Dell SP2208WFP with 2ms Response time. Viewing angles are just excellent.

Looks great from each corner of my room as compared to my earlier TN panel which resulted in utter harassment of myself and a real good pain in my neck while watching movies, tilting my head again n again just to compromise with the bad viewing angles of a TN panel. Hence once I again I would say that DELL 2408WFP is excellent here.

No backlight bleeding was observed by me at least in the display I received.

As its summer at full swing in Mumbai (INDIA) and my AC messed up, the LCD is bound to get Hot…
It does run warm as compared with CRT monitors (you get some, you lose some). Vents are a good help behind but, still I can feel the heat if I move my hands on the upper vents of the LCD. Side vents bring in cool air and top one`s let it out.

once again i SAY... u like watchin movies a lot , playing Games and expect bang for ur buck. just get this LCD. HD movies never looked so good. 1080p is just amazing. colors, effects everything just looks so brilliant.
it also gives u a very large working space for ur day to day work. documentation becomes easy with 2 X A4 pages able to be seen simultaneously.



Summary


SUMMARY:

I would rate this monitor at 4.5 out 5. Pinkish tone and uneven brightness although not a major problem, but were not expected from such a product.

To sum it all up, here`s the summary:

PROS:

It’s a sure shot SHOW-OFF. Call in your neighbors, friends to see their a#%`s getting smoked :p 

watching HD movies
Awesome and Accurate colors
Awesome viewing angle
S-PVA Panel
Huge array of Inputs
USB port and Multi-Card Reader
Correct Black level
Great for Gaming, watching HD movies, also for documenting and surfing web
Great stand
Responsive OSD/Power button
No backlight bleed
Price (got it for 25k)
No Input Lag
Negligible Color Shifting
Picture in Picture support works nice

CONS:

Pinkish Tone on the right bottom half of the display
A bit hot
Sharpness level adjustment tied to presets
uneven backlighting


Authors Note...........damn i just wrote this :@

This is my first ever review. Please inform me if u guys want me to add something more in it.
Took me 2hrs to write this thing.

Comments would be really appreciated.

a c 193 C Monitor
April 4, 2008 2:12:36 AM

Pretty good non-professional review.

To check for backlight bleeding simply display a total black background, turn off the lights and let your eyes get adjusted to the dark room for several minutes. Then look at the screen to determine how much backlight bleeding there is.

You'll probably have a few people how well the monitor handles console games. Some LCD monitors exhibits color banding issues.


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Just want to point out in case people missed it, the OP stated that this monitor does support 1:1 pixel mapping.
April 4, 2008 4:26:29 AM

thank u very much Jaguar...
most of the people dont respond here.
i felt actually let down postin this review here :( 

thanks for ur support :D 

PS: i tried wat u said above while writin the review..
and it dint exist :D 
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April 6, 2008 11:25:54 PM

After doing some research, I also determined I will eventually get this monitor. The only real turn offs, as you have mentioned dingemini, seem to be the pinkish tinge, and some people claim that the lag is an issue. However, with the array of inputs, warranty, S-PVA panel, and price (if you can get it for $600 or less) seem to make this monitor an easy choice if you have the money. Nice review, and keep us posted on how it continues to perform.
April 11, 2008 12:16:09 AM

its performing very well ......
but now i have asked dell to replace it due to pinkish tone..
expectin a new one on 15th ... fingers crossed :D 
April 14, 2008 12:31:53 PM

dingemini312 said:
its performing very well ......
but now i have asked dell to replace it due to pinkish tone..
expectin a new one on 15th ... fingers crossed :D 


Nice write up - please keep us updated.
April 28, 2008 11:46:00 PM

Thank you! This review is EXACTLY what I've been looking for. I've been looking for a 24" lcd for awhile with the inputs I want and I finally found this. Bit more pricey than I'd like, but it looks and sounds beautiful. Al the crap about the technical stuff was pretty much useless.

I read in one review about how plugging in a 1080P source via HDMI didn't work and the picture was bigger - didn't display it all on the screen. Anyone have any experience with this?

I think that's my only concern haha. Man I can't wait to get this panel later this summer.

Thanks again, this review pretty much solidified my getting it!
May 1, 2008 10:06:57 AM

Thank you for the great review. I was looking for amateur reviews and yours hit the spot. I know you put a lot of time into it and you should know that we really appreciate it. I'm glad you're so happy with your new monitor.

By the way, I have the same pink area on the lower right hand corner of my Dell 20.1" 2005FPW (Rev. A02). I only notice it when the screen is completely black and it doesn't bother me otherwise. I'm under the impression that this is normal? I've had the monitor for three years and the only thing I've done to try to remedy this is to remove all possible sources of magnetic interference from the monitor. This didn't help and I ceased thinking about it a long time ago.

As for me, I'm still trying to decide between the Dell 2707WFP and the 2408WFP, I want the extra three inches, but I don't like that I'll have to sacrifice not having an HDMI port on the 27" model. I also don't like this silver/aluminum bezel crap that they make the 27" model out of these days.
May 17, 2008 11:30:18 AM

@ dingemini312 - where did you purchase your monitor from?
May 31, 2008 8:47:39 PM

andywitzz said:
Thank you! This review is EXACTLY what I've been looking for. I've been looking for a 24" lcd for awhile with the inputs I want and I finally found this. Bit more pricey than I'd like, but it looks and sounds beautiful. Al the crap about the technical stuff was pretty much useless.

I read in one review about how plugging in a 1080P source via HDMI didn't work and the picture was bigger - didn't display it all on the screen. Anyone have any experience with this?

I think that's my only concern haha. Man I can't wait to get this panel later this summer.

Thanks again, this review pretty much solidified my getting it!



Take a look at what the 3007 model does....Good picture but bad hdcp.

http://30dell3007.blogspot.com/
June 1, 2008 5:20:10 AM

Wow that blows... I really hope this monitor doesn't have that problem.

Still waiting for the open house money to get this.

Two weeks now...
June 20, 2008 11:33:39 PM

Just got it. Oh is it amazing. Does everything I want and more.

Any questions, reply.

Dead sexy monitor...
July 13, 2008 2:37:57 AM

I am considering this unit for my gaming rig. But, as you all know, the pixel response and monitor lag is quite important for first-person-shooters. Has anyone got actual measured data on "monitor lag" for this Dell 2408WFP? Any suggestions of websites or other tools out there for our esteemed author to download and test this beast would be greatly appreciated, as is the above review.

Mahalo!
July 15, 2008 5:51:52 AM

My dreams have come true. I couldn't decide between the 2408 and the 2707 because I want 27 inches and I want HDMI ports. Now Dell has released the 2709W that has both! I'm getting one within the next three weeks and will report back on it.
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a b C Monitor
November 10, 2008 7:38:06 AM

Hi dinegemini,

Thanks for the great review. I am bit concerned though about the text sharpness though? And how visible is the pinkish tone? (and how easy was it to calibrate it for it to nearly go?)

I am an owner of an S-IPS panel, 2007WFP and I'm very frustrated with the texture the antiglare coating is giving my screen. The whites do not look white because there is this sort of grainyness on the screen. Would you say your monitor is affected by this?

Also what Rev is your monitor? A00 or Rev A01? (should be on a sticker at the back)

Thanks!

February 25, 2009 10:38:35 AM

dunno where do people get the "no input lag" idea from.
IT IS AWFUL FOR FPS GAMING!!
crosshair is swimming around the screen if you know what i mean...
it's impossible to play fast FPS games with this!
you can notice the lag even in Windows desktop if you use CRT regularly!


average input lag on the Rev A01 model is 27,5ms:
http://vull.planet.ee/2408wfpb/ms1.jpg

folder:
http://vull.planet.ee/2408wfpb

it's even worse with the VGA cable...

can't imagine the 50+ms lag in the rev a00 model...
a b C Monitor
February 26, 2009 12:07:30 AM

I have an A01 2408, and it is gorgeous. I would be quite surprised if you could detect the input lag. 20ms is next to nothing.

Awful is definitely an exaggeration, although I have heard if the input lag is bugging you that the HDMI input has zero input lag. Try that.
February 27, 2009 8:19:01 PM

Nice review.

Unlike some reviews where displayed pictures were out of focus or dark this one you actually see.

andywitzz said:
...
I read in one review about how plugging in a 1080P source via HDMI didn't work and the picture was bigger - didn't display it all on the screen. Anyone have any experience with this?

I think that's my only concern haha. Man I can't wait to get this panel later this summer.

Thanks again, this review pretty much solidified my getting it!



That is when a monitor were use by a different computer and connect it to another without decreasing the resolution.

If one PC already running and have different size of monitor, before switching a monitor another PC is to decrease the res to 800X600 then set it back up when the PC recognise the monitor. I found it best to use the monitor during OS installation.
March 15, 2009 4:30:59 AM

I also purchased a 2408WFP (A01) with high hopes, to use with my Mac Pro. It was cheaper than an Apple display.

it will be my last Dell purchase.

The viewing angles aren't that great (for a PVA?). My 1997 Toshiba Satellite laptop's LCD has wider viewing angles.

It IS great when the image is full of dark colors and lines.

It's nothing but irritating when I'm looking at images of a single solid color - as my desktop or most of my windows. The left quarter of the screen has a pinkish cast. There is an inch-wide dark band down the right edge of the screen (backlight problem?)

The top of the monitor gets so hot, I don't think it'll survive the summer.

What's even more irritating was Dell's customer support.

I mentioned the problems to a Dell support guy in Utah. He said something about "... we'll send a New monitor... it's illegal to export refurbished units..." (I am in Canada). I wondered why he said that.

After a few days, I got a replacement. It turned out to be a refurbished unit. It had the inch-wide dark band down the right side. It also showed blotches of wrong colors all over the screen when I set the desktop to a solid color.

I called Dell again. This time, a different support guy says he'll send a new monitor. Again, after a few days I got a replacement. Again a refurbished unit. This time, the afore-mentioned problems are gone. But this time, even without my glasses, I can immediately see at least 2 pixels stuck in red. So, back it went to Dell.

This time, Dell support tells me that Dell's "escalated support" will call me at a time that I designate. They do call, but not at the time that I designated. So I missed the call. I've been trying to reach "escalated support" during the past week. I get the answering service every time. I left a message every time, but no one has called back. Dell Hell.

Enjoy your new 2408WFP while it lasts. Hope that nothing goes wrong with it. Its 3 years' warranty is worth nothing.

a b C Monitor
March 15, 2009 6:34:10 AM

That's really bizarre - mine has amazing viewing angles, and flawless color. It's perfectly consistent across the screen as well. I don't see how you could have had so many bad ones in a row...
June 7, 2009 1:09:50 AM

I can understand a string of bad ones in a row. I bought a new 2408WFP A02, but as soon as I opened the box I noticed a fine scratch across viewing area and when I turned it on, 3 pixels stuck. The next one I got (A00) in the mail had damages to the physical monitor and a few dead pixels again. The next monitor I got (A01) gets heavy noise randomly. And the monitor I have now has the same exact problem, but does it less frequently. However, there is now a yellow tint that randomly appears. Also, when I do a full screen blue there is a green line that goes all the way down the screen on the left.

I bought a new monitor to get a refurbished one. It's like buying a new car with problems only to be compensated with a used car with more problem. I should get a refund or something. Thanks Dell!
July 8, 2009 10:10:01 PM

are you serious?
now i'm having second thoughts about buying it....
it was either this or the s2409w... for a killer price of ≈$260
July 9, 2009 3:44:35 AM

or even the G2410...
April 4, 2010 7:19:27 PM

There are no explicit messages about the viewing angle in portrait mode.

I'm REPLYing to cjl in the hopes of getting some feedback on two things:

1) whether the portrait mode viewing angle is okay, and

2) how to recognize and communicate about the apparent hardware revisions, so that I can look for a "late production model"

By the way, my H-P w2408h is simply horrible when in portrait mode; the right edge of the screen is noticeably darkened unless I view the monitor slightly from the right.
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