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March 3, 2005 12:40:26 AM

hello i have a quick question for you experts. i have a msi k8n ne0 4 sli amd64 939 mobo... i dont know what type of memory to get. i was thinking 3200 but "supposedly" it doesnt support anything greater than that on their product info. should i just get 1gb 3200? i was thinking if i get 3500 i would be more prepared for the future.

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March 3, 2005 2:06:09 AM

Get the Crucial Ballistix or some of the Samsung TCCD sticks and really be prepared for the future above 250mhz.


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March 3, 2005 4:43:01 AM

I wouldn't bother with PC3500 any more, I'd shoot straight for PC4000. Anything faster is too expensive in my opinion.

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March 3, 2005 10:22:04 PM

whats the difference between the g.skill le, ld, and lol, all these confusing letters

<font color=red>One Lowe</font color=red> <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by masturdebat3rr on 03/03/05 07:22 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
March 3, 2005 11:28:29 PM

well would my motherboard even run anything higher thatn 3200??

also it is a big improvement over 3200 or would my motherboard simply run it at 3200 speeds...

also is it getting cmon to pay up $200 for 1gb of memory..

i was thinking of going with the corsair value select ram ut if theres a big difference i might just condider somethign better
March 4, 2005 3:21:11 AM

haha, i saw on the g.skill website, i'm stickign to the LE, the term "hand picked" makes TCCD modules sound .... natural =]

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March 4, 2005 5:55:06 AM

How big of a difference in OCing does it make to get pc3200 vs 4000? The <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?DEPA=0&de..." target="_new"> OCZ module I want to buy </A> is MUCH less expensive in 3200 then 4000.

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March 4, 2005 9:50:01 PM

remember to buy all natural TCCD chips!

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March 4, 2005 11:19:09 PM

ok well do you if the 3500 or 4000 will work on my mobo. msi says max is 3200. i have the amd 64nforce4sli mobo
March 5, 2005 1:09:19 AM

don't worry about it, TCCD chips are designed for the A64 platform, you'll be fine with any mem that are TCCD based(ie pc3200, pc4000, pc4400, pc4800)

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March 5, 2005 5:28:20 AM

I remembered that post, I was just testing you... **bonks himself in the head** :smile:

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March 5, 2005 6:43:34 PM

Hmm, lemme <A HREF="http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?descripti...
" target="_new"> see </A>...

Well I don't know how well you could OC it, but its goods for the price. And if you're not going it then it doesn't matter that much :smile: If however you want to be able to OC, then stick with the TCCD chips posted above.
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March 6, 2005 7:11:48 AM

NO RAM ABOVE PC3200 IS OFFICAILLY SUPPORTED BY ANY BOARD!!

This is because no RAM over PC3200 is JEDEC specified (these are the people that sit around and come up with standards that manufacturers have to conform to). Anything over PC3200 is purly for overclocking. If you are not going to overclock just get some very low latency chips.
March 6, 2005 8:05:23 PM

dude, check out the loose timing on that one, thats about as loose as a gay guy's arse can get

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March 8, 2005 5:04:33 AM

From what I've seen right now it makes little sense to invest on expensive memory if you're getting an A64 based system, even if you OC. The A64 is hardly bandwidth starved, so you're better off getting corsair value and investing your money on VC/CPU.
Future-wise, unless you plan on upgrading again real soon, chances are your next system wont use DDR1
March 8, 2005 11:02:11 PM

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I wouldn't bother with PC3500 any more, I'd shoot straight for PC4000. Anything faster is too expensive in my opinion.

Hey, Crash... remember me? Heh ... You once answered my question about motherboards. I think it was your recommendation to get Abit IS7. I am happy with it, except it turns out that all of these boards have a bad chipset fan. Mine is acting up already (had the board for 3 months or so). Anyhow, this is not about the board.

If the price were not an issue, what would be the ultimate RAM for IS7 in your opinion? (I am keeping the board. I guess I will get another NB HSF.) I have a P-4 3.0 GHz Northwood with HT and GF6800 Ultra. My current RAM seriously slows me down (1 Gig of PC-2700, Dual Channel DDR)... 3Dmk05 is only 5200 and Aquamark3 is some 62000 and change. I should be doing better than this (at stock I mean)

Thanks in advance.


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March 9, 2005 3:53:14 AM

The only PC4000 I've tested with good latency values is Crucial Ballistix, it works great for me.

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March 9, 2005 2:14:02 PM

3500+ on a asus sli delux

In memory...you get what you pay for...but only if you OC. The more expensive 3200 stuff (generally...) can sometimes hit 3500, 4000 and higher on occasion. However, it was designed to run well (and sell best)at 3200. With the cheaper stuff, i'd say, it's more like it's capable of running as fast as 3200 with timings that aren't the best...I have some middle of the road stuff, geil series non ultra. I payed 130 for 2x512 3200, and it's capable of hitting 220-223. It'll hit 220 at 2.5 4 4 8, but won't hit 225 with even more relaxed timings. That still brings my system to 2.4ghz (from 2.2) but doesn't do much other than that.

If you're not oc'n, it doesn't really matter. You will get a small increase by buying low latency, but if money is an issue...buy the cheap stuff. You won't notice the difference in timings/speed unless you benchmark it (or unless you were going to do some serious oc'n...). However...If processors go to faster bus(hyp) speeds (that couldn't ever happen...), then you will want to stay 1:1 with that if possible, so...buying 4000 would save you money in the future...assuming that the next cpu you buy will still run on your board and that they don't switch to ddr2 in the near future...It's all a crap shoot my friend...good luck!

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March 10, 2005 10:13:30 PM

well i ended up ordering the corsair value select dual pack 3200. i bought them thinking that they were dual channel though. on my boot up screen it says running at single channel 64 bit. are these dual channel? also i havent noticed a diff going from 768mb 2700 to 1gb 3200

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