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September 24, 2012 8:57:52 AM

Hi!!!
MY specs:
CPU:intel i5 2500k
MOBO: gigabyte z77mx-d3h
GFX card:gigabyte 670gtx
HDD:320 GB HDD
*RAM:8 GB

The computer is used for 100% gaming.I need to know whether to install 32 bit or 64 bit windows 7 ultimate?

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September 24, 2012 9:13:29 AM

You need 64bit to handle the 8gb of RAM, else you are limited to 4gb.

Rumours are that DICE (BF3 developer) will be introducing 64bit only games from 2013 onwards.
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September 24, 2012 9:13:30 AM

You have to install 64bit because 32bit Win 7 doesn't support more than 4GB Ram.
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September 24, 2012 9:15:09 AM

the only reason to ever install 32bit is if you have a very rare program that won't run on 64 bit, or some other odd circumstance. Normally this applied to corporate setups and business/professional programs.

You should obviously use 64 bit as you have over 3GB of ram.
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September 24, 2012 9:19:15 AM

But 64 bit have some issues and problems not present out there at 32 bit is this right anybody experienced any problems with 64 bit?
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September 24, 2012 10:15:15 AM

machmach_3 said:
But 64 bit have some issues and problems not present out there at 32 bit is this right anybody experienced any problems with 64 bit?


Once upon a time that was true, now I'd say it's the other way around.
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September 24, 2012 10:51:51 AM

The only reason to run 32bit is if you have 16bit programs you run(won't work in 64bit windows) or really old hardware with only 32bit drivers and no newer
64bit drivers. A 32bit os sets a hard limit of 4GB on all memory that can be addressed in the system, including system ram, video ram, drive caches, the
flash ram on the mobo, and more. Normally, 4GB is limited to 3.25, before that gets eaten away by large amounts of graphics ram. In 32 bit, you will have
less than 2GB or your 8 to work with since your gtx670 alone will eat into your 4GB allowance by 2GB. Microsoft imposes a limit of 16GB system ram on
home premium and below, but will let you install up to 128GB of system ram on more expensive versions like ultimate. I believe any 64bit version of
windows allows a virtually unlimited amount of graphics ram above and beyond your system ram. We probably won't hit the memory address limit of 64bit
windows for a few decades. If you play modern games and either run other programs at the same time(multi tasking) or just leave a bunch of browser tabs
or other programs like media players or chat programs open, you can use all 8GB. Newer versions of windows will also use any available ram you aren't
using to cache frequently used programs and files to make your overall computing experience snappier. If you have a retail copy of windows 7 ultimate
versus an oem copy(which I could fairly guess since you asked which to install, not which to buy), you can partition your hdd and install both. Then you
can boot into whichever one suits your pc usage at any given time. Hope this helps.
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September 24, 2012 11:48:41 AM

Best answer selected by machmach_3.
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September 24, 2012 12:16:04 PM

jternorj, I don't agree on most of what you wrote.
1. indeed, 16-bit apps are limited in 64-bit (limited, because there are some 32-bit apps that are installed using 16-bit installers)
2. 32-bit windows desktop os is limited to 4GB RAM. Windows Server editions, linuxes, unixes and whatever can use up to 64GB of RAM in 32-bit mode using PAE (check wikipedia). Only apps are CPU-limited to 4GB, and actually 2GB of application data.
3. 64-bit windows requires signed drivers. So developers of drivers have a harder time (think about oveclocking/monitoring tools)
4. having a 3GB GPU (or 2x1GB) will not reduce the RAM availability in 32-bit windows (do you actually have a 2GB GPU under 32-bit windows? or did you just scaled the numbers you read?). I don't know exactly how the rule is, but not all of the VRAM has to be mapped. Through a 512MB window you can access 3GB or VRAM (or more).
5. Not many games have 64-bit executabled. When they do appear, their main advantage will be speed optimizations, not memory usage.

So, to the OP question, for the current games (no 64-bit binaries), there is slight advantage of 64-bit which comes from optimized GPU drivers (but I would say under 5%). For strictly gaming setup, 3GB of RAM is enough until 64-bit games get mainstream. Few game benefit from /3GB switch (which does allow using of 3GB game data), so 2GB for games and 1GB for kernel+cache is enough for the next year. So if you need drivers for old HW (which is buggy or inexistent for 64-bit) or have 16-bit apps/games, stick with 32-bit (although you will not use half of your RAM).
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September 24, 2012 1:02:14 PM

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