Napoleonic advice please

[donnie]

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I sell painted 15mm ACW, Napoleonic and Franco Prussian figures by
OldGlory15. it's a business not a hobby.

Now when it comes to ACW I'm okay. I know that a unit made up of four
men/castings will fit both Fire and Fury and Johnny Reb III. So I can
charge 65p a professionally painted figure (and damn nice they are too
!) and post them accordingly.

My problem is with Napoleonics. I do not know what (if any) is THE
rules set for 15mm Naps. (I have British, French, Prussians and
Spanish.

Can anyone suggest the best "unit" in which to sell these. I mean
Principle of War seem to work in nines. But what about In The Grand
Manner and Shako?

Can someone help me out? If you were buying, say French Old Guard, how
many would you want?

TIA

PS The problem is compounded of course when I offer them based. Which
rules to use???

 

[Guest]

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This is a really tough question. The main problem you have is each rule
system may have a different ratio of men to figures. This is compounded even
more depending if the rules are corps or battallion based. I have played
Empire 3 in 25mm with 4 men per base while the group I was with that used
Empire Eagles and Lions used one figure per base.

If you are selling painted figures, I think the safest thing for you to do
is not base them until you get an order and have the purchaser specify the
number of figures per base. That would allow you to deal with any rule set
they may throw at you.

Here is a link to a website that lists some of the available rule sets:

http://www.warweb.com/rules/

This is not a complete list of Napoleonic rules, but it will give you an
idea of the size of the potential market.




"Donnie" <donnieitaly@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
news:0a4ha1luc4lub51mic7h21o2jh9fj1980j@4ax.com...
>I sell painted 15mm ACW, Napoleonic and Franco Prussian figures by
> OldGlory15. it's a business not a hobby.
>
> Now when it comes to ACW I'm okay. I know that a unit made up of four
> men/castings will fit both Fire and Fury and Johnny Reb III. So I can
> charge 65p a professionally painted figure (and damn nice they are too
> !) and post them accordingly.
>
> My problem is with Napoleonics. I do not know what (if any) is THE
> rules set for 15mm Naps. (I have British, French, Prussians and
> Spanish.
>
> Can anyone suggest the best "unit" in which to sell these. I mean
> Principle of War seem to work in nines. But what about In The Grand
> Manner and Shako?
>
> Can someone help me out? If you were buying, say French Old Guard, how
> many would you want?
>
> TIA
>
> PS The problem is compounded of course when I offer them based. Which
> rules to use???
>

 

[donnie]

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On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:41:41 -0400, "Jim Bello" <jamesmbello@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>This is a really tough question. The main problem you have is each rule
>system may have a different ratio of men to figures. This is compounded even
>more depending if the rules are corps or battallion based. I have played
>Empire 3 in 25mm with 4 men per base while the group I was with that used
>Empire Eagles and Lions used one figure per base.
>
>If you are selling painted figures, I think the safest thing for you to do
>is not base them until you get an order and have the purchaser specify the
>number of figures per base. That would allow you to deal with any rule set
>they may throw at you.
>
>Here is a link to a website that lists some of the available rule sets:
>
>http://www.warweb.com/rules/
>
>This is not a complete list of Napoleonic rules, but it will give you an
>idea of the size of the potential market.

I knew it was a tough question, but you've certainly helped. Thanks
very much Jim. Later tonight I'll start looking

BTW My current site is www.minifigures.co.uk

If YOU would like a discount in return for the favour, just call.
>
>
>
>
>"Donnie" <donnieitaly@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
>news:0a4ha1luc4lub51mic7h21o2jh9fj1980j@4ax.com...
>>I sell painted 15mm ACW, Napoleonic and Franco Prussian figures by
>> OldGlory15. it's a business not a hobby.
>>
>> Now when it comes to ACW I'm okay. I know that a unit made up of four
>> men/castings will fit both Fire and Fury and Johnny Reb III. So I can
>> charge 65p a professionally painted figure (and damn nice they are too
>> !) and post them accordingly.
>>
>> My problem is with Napoleonics. I do not know what (if any) is THE
>> rules set for 15mm Naps. (I have British, French, Prussians and
>> Spanish.
>>
>> Can anyone suggest the best "unit" in which to sell these. I mean
>> Principle of War seem to work in nines. But what about In The Grand
>> Manner and Shako?
>>
>> Can someone help me out? If you were buying, say French Old Guard, how
>> many would you want?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> PS The problem is compounded of course when I offer them based. Which
>> rules to use???
>>
>

 

[Guest]

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I'm just getting ready to formally publish Napoleonic Fire & Fury with
Rich Hasenauer, so basing has really been a tough nut to crack.

FWIW, I chose to go with a basing system that is a slight modification
from Napoleon's Battles. I like the way it looks and the basing works
with not only Napoleon's Battles, but also Shako and as an option in
>From Valmy to Waterloo. Its not a perfect decision by any means but its
as close as you will get to a universal system right now.

Regards, Bill Gray

Donnie wrote:
> On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 23:41:41 -0400, "Jim Bello" <jamesmbello@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >This is a really tough question. The main problem you have is each rule
> >system may have a different ratio of men to figures. This is compounded even
> >more depending if the rules are corps or battallion based. I have played
> >Empire 3 in 25mm with 4 men per base while the group I was with that used
> >Empire Eagles and Lions used one figure per base.
> >
> >If you are selling painted figures, I think the safest thing for you to do
> >is not base them until you get an order and have the purchaser specify the
> >number of figures per base. That would allow you to deal with any rule set
> >they may throw at you.
> >
> >Here is a link to a website that lists some of the available rule sets:
> >
> >http://www.warweb.com/rules/
> >
> >This is not a complete list of Napoleonic rules, but it will give you an
> >idea of the size of the potential market.
>
> I knew it was a tough question, but you've certainly helped. Thanks
> very much Jim. Later tonight I'll start looking
>
> BTW My current site is www.minifigures.co.uk
>
> If YOU would like a discount in return for the favour, just call.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"Donnie" <donnieitaly@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
> >news:0a4ha1luc4lub51mic7h21o2jh9fj1980j@4ax.com...
> >>I sell painted 15mm ACW, Napoleonic and Franco Prussian figures by
> >> OldGlory15. it's a business not a hobby.
> >>
> >> Now when it comes to ACW I'm okay. I know that a unit made up of four
> >> men/castings will fit both Fire and Fury and Johnny Reb III. So I can
> >> charge 65p a professionally painted figure (and damn nice they are too
> >> !) and post them accordingly.
> >>
> >> My problem is with Napoleonics. I do not know what (if any) is THE
> >> rules set for 15mm Naps. (I have British, French, Prussians and
> >> Spanish.
> >>
> >> Can anyone suggest the best "unit" in which to sell these. I mean
> >> Principle of War seem to work in nines. But what about In The Grand
> >> Manner and Shako?
> >>
> >> Can someone help me out? If you were buying, say French Old Guard, how
> >> many would you want?
> >>
> >> TIA
> >>
> >> PS The problem is compounded of course when I offer them based. Which
> >> rules to use???
> >>
> >

 

[steve]

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I agreee with Bill's comments on picking the Napoleon's Battles basing
as a 'standard'. That's what I've ended up doing as well, for the same
reasons.
Additional popular games that are playable with this basing are, Piquet
and Grand Armee.
The only system that really gives problems with this basing would be
'tournament' Principles of War armies.

 

[steve]

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The original Avalon Hill version did ship with 'counters', although any
of the gamers I knew that played it played it with miniatures and as a
table top game. For a while it was almost the defacto game for 15mm
Napoleonics after the days of "Empire".
More recently there is a Napoleon's Battles 2nd edition that became
available last year. Even though it is a development of the first
printing, it has yet to pick up the sort of following that made the
first edition so popular.
At the grand tactical scale "Grand Armee" has become very popular. This
game is easily played with figures based for NB by placing a few of
them onto a movement tray.

 

[donnie]

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On 10 Jun 2005 15:57:35 -0700, "Steve" <sfinlay@mac.com> wrote:

>I agreee with Bill's comments on picking the Napoleon's Battles basing
>as a 'standard'. That's what I've ended up doing as well, for the same
>reasons.
>Additional popular games that are playable with this basing are, Piquet
>and Grand Armee.
>The only system that really gives problems with this basing would be
>'tournament' Principles of War armies.


I have Naps. Battle (The Avalon Hill game??) I thought that was based
(no pun) on counters rather than units. A long time since I've looked
at it though.

Again many thanks.

 

[Guest]

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Several of the most popular rule sets use battalions of 12 or multiples
thereof. Just please do me a favor, and for true light infantry (not
legere etc.) do not supply flag bearers, they did not carry them by this
time.

Donnie wrote:
> I sell painted 15mm ACW, Napoleonic and Franco Prussian figures by
> OldGlory15. it's a business not a hobby.
>
> Now when it comes to ACW I'm okay. I know that a unit made up of four
> men/castings will fit both Fire and Fury and Johnny Reb III. So I can
> charge 65p a professionally painted figure (and damn nice they are too
> !) and post them accordingly.
>
> My problem is with Napoleonics. I do not know what (if any) is THE
> rules set for 15mm Naps. (I have British, French, Prussians and
> Spanish.
>
> Can anyone suggest the best "unit" in which to sell these. I mean
> Principle of War seem to work in nines. But what about In The Grand
> Manner and Shako?
>
> Can someone help me out? If you were buying, say French Old Guard, how
> many would you want?
>
> TIA
>
> PS The problem is compounded of course when I offer them based. Which
> rules to use???
>

 

[donnie]

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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 18:56:30 -0400, "Andrea B. Novin"
<profengs@comcast.net> wrote:

>Several of the most popular rule sets use battalions of 12 or multiples
>thereof. Just please do me a favor, and for true light infantry (not
>legere etc.) do not supply flag bearers, they did not carry them by this
>time.
>
Damn, I didn't know that. Thanks for the tip. My new website, when
it's up will offer all Infantry at 65p each (no discounts) so the
customer can pick and choose.

Thanks again for the advice.