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December 22, 2009 3:45:36 AM

Hello.

I'm looking to buy a new computer. My budget will be probably acouple or a few thousand depending on when I actually buy the computer. I'm trying to wait on fermi to come out.

Anyway - I'd at least like to figure out which vendor I'm buying the computer from. I've been looking at like puget systems, pcsforeveryone....but I am really open to suggestions. Who do you guys feel are the best quality custom desktop maker or makers?

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December 22, 2009 11:42:33 PM

Are you ruling out building it yourself? You save a lot of money and gain a lot of experience in the process.


CyberPower and IBuyPower are quality custom PC makers. If I ever were to let someone else build my PC, it would be one of these two.
December 23, 2009 3:21:13 AM

I've replaced hard drives, video cards, sound cards, modems, added ram. The easy stuff. Never did anything like removing a motherboard. Or build anything from scratch. I wouldn't do that with something I'm spending so much money on ;/ You know, count on me putting it all together.

I didn't know about those places, and they look really good actually. Thanks for the tip.
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December 23, 2009 3:31:43 AM

No problem.

I do recommend that you build a computer one day. Even if it's just a throw together of older parts or something. It's much easier than the job sounds especially if you've worked with all those components before. The feeling of accomplishment you get when it boots up after you've put it together is quite intense.
December 23, 2009 3:41:21 PM

If your going to budget a few thousand dollars, you should be able to price out $1000 in parts and invest some time reading one of the many do it yourself guides here on toms.

It's really straight forward. As long as you take your time, you should be fine. It's always nice to be able to hand pick the parts you're going to use on a new build.
December 24, 2009 12:25:43 PM

Wow - a few thousand would buy you the components for a fantastic system. To get an idea, just look at the ones THG built for $1.300 and $2,500, respectively:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-own-pc,2503.h...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-new-pc,2497.h...

Note that you will need to add the cost of the operating system and peripherals like keyboard and mouse, if you need them, too.

To build or not to build, that is the question.

Of course neither of those might be just right for your use, budget and taste - but that is one the advantages of building your own, you get to customize it. Other advantages include:

1. Lower initial cost
2. Personal satisfaction
3. Better quality components
4. Acquisition of knowledge about computers and skills
5. Confidence in working on computer - and in doing upgrades
6. The big cost savings really comes after several years when you can upgrade instead of buying a new one. You can generally continue using the case, power supply, optical drive and operating system (depending on obsolesce on the latter) and maybe the graphics card (which you might already have updated anyway), and get just a new motherboard, CPU and memory at about half the cost of a new machine.
7. No vendor installed bloatware slowing down your system and taking up hard drive space for the life of the computer.
8. Having a complete BIOS that allows making changes and supports overclocking rather than one limited by manufacturer.
9. The ability to size components correctly so you don’t later find out that when you want to upgrade a graphics card that you also have to upgrade and replace a power supply.
10. Membership in the eclectic group of BYOers - a very intelligent, affable, handsome, honest, trustworthy, loyal, kind, and modest group.
11.Bragging rights - be they as they may - of BYO - and all the chicks it brings - or vice versa if you are vice versa - or even just vice.

Of course there are disadvantages:

1. Time is the big one - you have to invest some time in configuration, purchasing components, assembling the PC, loading the operating system, testing it, and sometime trouble shooting problems. The actual assembly only takes about 1-2 hours for an experienced hand, for a newbie taking their time approximately 4-6 hours, assuming no problems, which do occasionally occur. But if you consider it a hobby and learning experience then this should not be a big issue.
2. Support and - if something goes wrong with the PC you don't have a convenient number to call, you have to fix it yourself, with help from forums like this.
3. Warranty - you have the individual component vendor warranties which are sometimes shorter than what is provided by a vendor selling complete systems.
4. No vendor to cuss at when things go wrong. If you enjoy being able to rage at someone for months the BYO is not for you – it is no fun raging at yourself.

Here’s how simple it really is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_E3ULURHkE&feature=rela...

Plenty of written instructions are available online:

Here is an overview:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/how-to-build-a-pc-p...

And two options for more detailed instructions for when you actually start to build:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_To_Assemble_A_Desktop_...
http://www.kitchentablecomputers.com/index.php

Off course, most computer components also come with instructions for their installation, and the motherboard usually has a guide for plugging everything into it.

Now go back and re-read the advantages and build that thing. Or not.

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January 23, 2010 6:03:18 AM

TheViper said:
No problem.

I do recommend that you build a computer one day. Even if it's just a throw together of older parts or something. It's much easier than the job sounds especially if you've worked with all those components before. The feeling of accomplishment you get when it boots up after you've put it together is quite intense.


:)  Building is fun. But take your time, and study every detail of each step before you attemp to build your dream machine. Also important is to be connected to ground when handling computer componets.
:non:  If this is your first time? Take your new computer to a shop and have an experienced tech check your work. I am glad that I did this. The tech found three mistakes that could have fried my new machine.
Termaltake makes well built, solid cases.
Good Luck
themadking :bounce: 
February 19, 2011 7:20:57 AM

Are you still around outboxes? What did you end up doing?
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