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July 20, 2004 11:52:35 PM

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This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of you
who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy to
set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not finding
this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the start
manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I understand
it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
used during setup that was connecting the base station
and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be able
to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found my
network by name (and even one of my neighbor's networks).
I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable is
unplugged and I have not internet connection. I thought
I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
but to no avail. Please, can one of you very intelligent
and knowledgeable wireless network people out there help
me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for any
and all suggestions.

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Anonymous
July 21, 2004 3:15:35 AM

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Did you install the new firmware that was released today.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/d/5/8d5f3570-e...

--
Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP

Find out about the MS MVP Program -
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx

"Josh" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0ea601c46ecd$c692ff90$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of you
> who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
> to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
> wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
> the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy to
> set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not finding
> this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
> to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
> laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the start
> manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
> station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I understand
> it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
> used during setup that was connecting the base station
> and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
> the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
> turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be able
> to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found my
> network by name (and even one of my neighbor's networks).
> I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
> thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
> blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable is
> unplugged and I have not internet connection. I thought
> I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
> but to no avail. Please, can one of you very intelligent
> and knowledgeable wireless network people out there help
> me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for any
> and all suggestions.
July 21, 2004 3:15:36 AM

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No. Somehow since I can't get this thing to work in the
first place that upgrading the firmware won't solve my
basic problems.


>-----Original Message-----
>Did you install the new firmware that was released today.
>
>http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/d/5/8d5f3570-
e0aa-4ac4-8448-579870373a0f/MSBNDownload.exe
>
>--
>Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>
>Find out about the MS MVP Program -
>http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>
>"Josh" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>news:0ea601c46ecd$c692ff90$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>> This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of
you
>> who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
>> to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
>> wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
>> the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy
to
>> set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not
finding
>> this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
>> to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
>> laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the
start
>> manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
>> station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I
understand
>> it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
>> used during setup that was connecting the base station
>> and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
>> the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
>> turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be
able
>> to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found
my
>> network by name (and even one of my neighbor's
networks).
>> I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
>> thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
>> blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable
is
>> unplugged and I have not internet connection. I
thought
>> I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
>> but to no avail. Please, can one of you very
intelligent
>> and knowledgeable wireless network people out there
help
>> me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for
any
>> and all suggestions.
>
>
>.
>
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July 21, 2004 2:16:34 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Some other questions include.

What form of wireless security are you using if any?

Which OS are you running?

If you are running Windows XP did you install the 826942 update?

If you are running Windows XP do you have the following services startup
type set to automatic? (SSDP Discovery Service, Universal Plug and Play
Device Host, & Wireless Zero Configuration.)

Are you using any other 2.4 Ghz. equipment?

Is there anything between the MN-700 & the laptop?

Which version of the firmware are you running on the MN-700?

Josh wrote:

> This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of you
> who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
> to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
> wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
> the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy to
> set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not finding
> this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
> to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
> laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the start
> manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
> station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I understand
> it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
> used during setup that was connecting the base station
> and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
> the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
> turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be able
> to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found my
> network by name (and even one of my neighbor's networks).
> I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
> thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
> blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable is
> unplugged and I have not internet connection. I thought
> I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
> but to no avail. Please, can one of you very intelligent
> and knowledgeable wireless network people out there help
> me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for any
> and all suggestions.
Anonymous
July 21, 2004 3:44:27 PM

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"upgrading the firmware won't solve my basic problems"

That doesn't make any sense. You should be thinking "I've nothing to lose".


"Josh" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:106d01c46eda$781feaa0$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> No. Somehow since I can't get this thing to work in the
> first place that upgrading the firmware won't solve my
> basic problems.
>
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Did you install the new firmware that was released today.
> >
> >http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/d/5/8d5f3570-
> e0aa-4ac4-8448-579870373a0f/MSBNDownload.exe
> >
> >--
> >Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
> >
> >Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> >http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
> >
> >"Josh" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
> message
> >news:0ea601c46ecd$c692ff90$a401280a@phx.gbl...
> >> This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of
> you
> >> who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
> >> to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
> >> wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
> >> the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy
> to
> >> set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not
> finding
> >> this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
> >> to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
> >> laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the
> start
> >> manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
> >> station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I
> understand
> >> it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
> >> used during setup that was connecting the base station
> >> and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
> >> the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
> >> turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be
> able
> >> to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found
> my
> >> network by name (and even one of my neighbor's
> networks).
> >> I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
> >> thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
> >> blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable
> is
> >> unplugged and I have not internet connection. I
> thought
> >> I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
> >> but to no avail. Please, can one of you very
> intelligent
> >> and knowledgeable wireless network people out there
> help
> >> me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for
> any
> >> and all suggestions.
> >
> >
> >.
> >
Anonymous
July 21, 2004 8:38:27 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Josh wrote:
> This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of you
> who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
> to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
> wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
> the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy to
> set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not finding
> this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
> to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
> laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the start
> manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
> station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I understand
> it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
> used during setup that was connecting the base station
> and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
> the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
> turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be able
> to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found my
> network by name (and even one of my neighbor's networks).
> I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
> thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
> blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable is
> unplugged and I have not internet connection. I thought
> I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
> but to no avail. Please, can one of you very intelligent
> and knowledgeable wireless network people out there help
> me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for any
> and all suggestions.

In no particular order,

All the stuff in the above post by joker.

Are you running a firewall. Disable it.

Undo all your security until you get a network connection. This
includes WEP, WPA, MAC address filtering, not SSID broadcasting, etc.

Can you connect to the internet through the wired connection?

Does the base station see your Laptop, ie does it have a mac address for it?

If you run the Microsoft Broadband Utility with the blue wire unplugged, do
you have an IP Address?

If you open a dos window and run ipconfig do you have an IP Address?

If you go to Network Connections > Wireless Network(or whatever it is
called) > properties,
do you see your Wireless network card, TCP/IP,QoS, and Client for Microsoft
Networks?

Does your Wireless network card appear in Control Panel > System >device
manager > list of devices?

Is your Wireless network enabled?

Have you actually started your Browser? You may be connected and not know
it. If you haven't
removed your wired network card, you will have two screens with a red x on
them in the system
tray. And it will say you aren't connected. If you haven't checked the box
on the Wireless Network properties page, you won't get
an indication in the system tray that the wireless network is connected. If
the box is checked
and you still have the wired card in place you should have two indicators in
the system tray, one for
the wireless card and one for the wired.

Hope this helps.

Dick Kistler
July 22, 2004 12:11:44 AM

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Wow. A wealth of knowledge, and I thank you all for your
input. unfortunately, I'm not computer savvy enough to
even understand half the terms some of you guys are
throwing out there. Most people say this system is so
easy to set up, but I don't know enough about computers
to even find half the setting being referred to or feel
confident changing settings out of fear that I'll mess
something else up.


>-----Original Message-----
>Josh wrote:
>> This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of
you
>> who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
>> to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
>> wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
>> the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy
to
>> set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not
finding
>> this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
>> to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
>> laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the
start
>> manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
>> station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I
understand
>> it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
>> used during setup that was connecting the base station
>> and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
>> the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
>> turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be
able
>> to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found
my
>> network by name (and even one of my neighbor's
networks).
>> I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
>> thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
>> blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable
is
>> unplugged and I have not internet connection. I
thought
>> I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
>> but to no avail. Please, can one of you very
intelligent
>> and knowledgeable wireless network people out there
help
>> me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for
any
>> and all suggestions.
>
>In no particular order,
>
>All the stuff in the above post by joker.
>
>Are you running a firewall. Disable it.
>
>Undo all your security until you get a network
connection. This
>includes WEP, WPA, MAC address filtering, not SSID
broadcasting, etc.
>
>Can you connect to the internet through the wired
connection?
>
>Does the base station see your Laptop, ie does it have a
mac address for it?
>
>If you run the Microsoft Broadband Utility with the blue
wire unplugged, do
>you have an IP Address?
>
>If you open a dos window and run ipconfig do you have an
IP Address?
>
>If you go to Network Connections > Wireless Network(or
whatever it is
>called) > properties,
>do you see your Wireless network card, TCP/IP,QoS, and
Client for Microsoft
>Networks?
>
>Does your Wireless network card appear in Control Panel
> System >device
>manager > list of devices?
>
>Is your Wireless network enabled?
>
>Have you actually started your Browser? You may be
connected and not know
>it. If you haven't
>removed your wired network card, you will have two
screens with a red x on
>them in the system
>tray. And it will say you aren't connected. If you
haven't checked the box
>on the Wireless Network properties page, you won't get
>an indication in the system tray that the wireless
network is connected. If
>the box is checked
>and you still have the wired card in place you should
have two indicators in
>the system tray, one for
>the wireless card and one for the wired.
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>Dick Kistler
>
>
>
>.
>
July 22, 2004 3:51:10 PM

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Once your base station is ocnfigured, connect it to the
Modem only. I would uninstall the Broadband software so
that your laptop is not seen as a "wired" computer.
restart everything and click "Configure" when your laptop
says it detected your network.
>-----Original Message-----
>This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of
you
>who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
>to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
>wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
>the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy
to
>set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not finding
>this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
>to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
>laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the
start
>manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
>station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I
understand
>it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
>used during setup that was connecting the base station
>and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
>the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
>turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be able
>to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found my
>network by name (and even one of my neighbor's
networks).
>I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
>thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
>blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable is
>unplugged and I have not internet connection. I thought
>I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
>but to no avail. Please, can one of you very
intelligent
>and knowledgeable wireless network people out there help
>me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for any
>and all suggestions.
>.
>
July 22, 2004 3:59:22 PM

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Let me simplify the questions for you that I asked then.


What form of wireless security are you using if any (Are you using WEP,
WPA, &/or MAC filtering)?

Which OS are you running (which version of Windows are you running)?

If you are running Windows XP did you install the 826942 update (if you
go into add/remove programs do you see an update that mentions "826942"
in it's title)?

If you are running Windows XP do you have the following services startup
type set to automatic? (SSDP Discovery Service, Universal Plug and Play
Device Host, & Wireless Zero Configuration.)

Are you using any other 2.4 Ghz. equipment (This would be 2.4 Ghz.
phones, microwaves, & any other wireless device that uses the 2.4 Ghz.
frequency)?

Is there anything between the MN-700 & the laptop (is there anything
other then air between the MN-700 & your laptop)?

Which version of the firmware are you running on the MN-700 (Sign into
http://192.168.2.1 and you should be able to see what the firmware
version is)?

Another way to check is to download the following file and run it. That
will update you to the latest firmware for the MN-700 which is 2.01.02.0590.

MSBNDownload (This is the update package. It will update software
(including drivers) and firmware as needed)

http://download.microsoft.com/download/8/d/5/8d5f3570-e...

(note that this URL is very long and might get truncated)

One other note if you have questions about words used here you can
always enter the word at http://www.dictionary.com to get a definition
or http://www.google.com to learn more.

Josh wrote:

> Wow. A wealth of knowledge, and I thank you all for your
> input. unfortunately, I'm not computer savvy enough to
> even understand half the terms some of you guys are
> throwing out there. Most people say this system is so
> easy to set up, but I don't know enough about computers
> to even find half the setting being referred to or feel
> confident changing settings out of fear that I'll mess
> something else up.
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Josh wrote:
>>
>>>This thing is driving me crazy. I apppreciate all of
>
> you
>
>>>who gave me suggestions last time, but none have seemed
>>>to work. I have an HP laptop with an integrated b/g
>>>wireless card. I bought the MN-700, mostly because of
>>>the good reviews and how everyone said it was 'so easy
>
> to
>
>>>set up' out of the box. I have to say, I am not
>
> finding
>
>>>this to tbe the case. I do not have a desktop computer
>>>to set this up with; my only computer at home is this
>>>laptop. I set up the base station as stated in the
>
> start
>
>>>manual, and it connected just fine, found the base
>>>station, programmed just fine, etc. Now, as I
>
> understand
>
>>>it, I should be able to unplug the blue ethernet cable
>>>used during setup that was connecting the base station
>>>and my computer. After doing this and then turning on
>>>the wireless function (my HP has a dedicated button to
>>>turn the wireless on and off), I would expect to be
>
> able
>
>>>to connect to the internet. It tells me it has found
>
> my
>
>>>network by name (and even one of my neighbor's
>
> networks).
>
>>>I have no printers or other computers to connect to. I
>>>thought I did everything right, but when I unplug the
>>>blue ethernet cable, it tells me that a network cable
>
> is
>
>>>unplugged and I have not internet connection. I
>
> thought
>
>>>I had the problem licked when I cloned the MAC address,
>>>but to no avail. Please, can one of you very
>
> intelligent
>
>>>and knowledgeable wireless network people out there
>
> help
>
>>>me? It's driving me crazy!!! Thanks in advance for
>
> any
>
>>>and all suggestions.
>>
>>In no particular order,
>>
>>All the stuff in the above post by joker.
>>
>>Are you running a firewall. Disable it.
>>
>>Undo all your security until you get a network
>
> connection. This
>
>>includes WEP, WPA, MAC address filtering, not SSID
>
> broadcasting, etc.
>
>>Can you connect to the internet through the wired
>
> connection?
>
>>Does the base station see your Laptop, ie does it have a
>
> mac address for it?
>
>>If you run the Microsoft Broadband Utility with the blue
>
> wire unplugged, do
>
>>you have an IP Address?
>>
>>If you open a dos window and run ipconfig do you have an
>
> IP Address?
>
>>If you go to Network Connections > Wireless Network(or
>
> whatever it is
>
>>called) > properties,
>>do you see your Wireless network card, TCP/IP,QoS, and
>
> Client for Microsoft
>
>>Networks?
>>
>>Does your Wireless network card appear in Control Panel
>>System >device
>>manager > list of devices?
>>
>>Is your Wireless network enabled?
>>
>>Have you actually started your Browser? You may be
>
> connected and not know
>
>>it. If you haven't
>>removed your wired network card, you will have two
>
> screens with a red x on
>
>>them in the system
>>tray. And it will say you aren't connected. If you
>
> haven't checked the box
>
>>on the Wireless Network properties page, you won't get
>>an indication in the system tray that the wireless
>
> network is connected. If
>
>>the box is checked
>>and you still have the wired card in place you should
>
> have two indicators in
>
>>the system tray, one for
>>the wireless card and one for the wired.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Dick Kistler
>>
>>
>>
>>.
>>
!