SP2 RAM Requirements??

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I have a 96MB Dell Inspiron 7500 with XP Home and it works but it's sluggish
probably due to VM thrashing. My questions is whether SP2 will exacerbate
the RAM shortage, leave it the same or make it better.

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Fred;
Probably no change.
Is there a reason your computer is so deficient in RAM.
You really should triple or more your RAM.
You may be surprised at the performance boost assuming the rest of the
computer is OK.
The Memory Advisor on this sight can help determine type of RAM:
http://www.crucial.com/

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
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>I have a 96MB Dell Inspiron 7500 with XP Home and it works but it's
>sluggish probably due to VM thrashing. My questions is whether SP2 will
>exacerbate the RAM shortage, leave it the same or make it better.

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Forgot to add if windows xp crashes after editing the boot.ini file

F8 twice Reboot is safe mode and put it back like it was.


Greg Rozelle

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"Greg Ro" <webworm11@yes.lycos.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 01:54:56 GMT, "fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote:
>
>>I have a 96MB Dell Inspiron 7500 with XP Home and it works but it's
>>sluggish
>>probably due to VM thrashing. My questions is whether SP2 will exacerbate
>>the RAM shortage, leave it the same or make it better.
>>
> I notice some dells do that. I know at a work place, it takes
> forever for a Microsoft Office program to open up.
>
> If found out if you disable dep in boot.ini

What's "dep"?

> multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Home
> Edition" /fastdetect /NoExecute=AlwaysOff
>
> Just the last part after fastdetect /something=something to
> /NoExecute=AlwaysOff


A change in boot.ini settings greatly affects overall XP operation...please
explain.

> Then reboot.
>
> You may need remove the read only attribute from the boot.ini file
>
> Also real-one preinstalled player would also cause this.
>
> You can get real alternative from
> http://www.free-codecs.com/downloa [...] native.htm


OK so RealPlayer is there but it's the latest free one available form Real.
You're saying that has an overall effect on performance even while not
running??

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote:

>
>What's "dep"?

Data Execution Prevention, a facility that prevents the execution of
program code from memory areas that are designated as being for the
storage of data. This helps to combat one of the major methods that
parasites use to infest and take control of computers.

Disabling it would weaken your computer's security from these
infestantations.

Hope this explains the situation.

Good luck


Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
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"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
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> In article <QrhEe.24205$5N3.16032@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> fred@hotmaim.con says...
>> I have a 96MB Dell Inspiron 7500 with XP Home and it works but it's
>> sluggish
>> probably due to VM thrashing. My questions is whether SP2 will
>> exacerbate
>> the RAM shortage, leave it the same or make it better.
>
> Visit www.crucial.com and use their wizard to find more ram for your
> computer, it's cheap and with less than 256MB of RAM your machine is way
> under powered.
>
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It would depend on what you use your computer for, but you should really
upgrade to at least 256MB of RAM. If you are using it for more than just
basics, go for 512MB if your machine supports it.

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In article <kKjEe.196138$xm3.80361@attbi_s21>, Anonymous@none.com
says...
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1d4b771b3afee5b1989a38@news-server.columbus.rr.com...
> > In article <QrhEe.24205$5N3.16032@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
> > fred@hotmaim.con says...
> >> I have a 96MB Dell Inspiron 7500 with XP Home and it works but it's
> >> sluggish
> >> probably due to VM thrashing. My questions is whether SP2 will
> >> exacerbate
> >> the RAM shortage, leave it the same or make it better.
> >
> > Visit www.crucial.com and use their wizard to find more ram for your
> > computer, it's cheap and with less than 256MB of RAM your machine is way
> > under powered.
> >
> It would depend on what you use your computer for, but you should really
> upgrade to at least 256MB of RAM.

No, it doesn't depend on what the OP uses their computer for - anyone
that has XP knows that in a default state, without anything else
running, it will consume between 90~110MB of RAM just booting up and
logging in. When you add AV and then start running IE or FF or Word you
exceed the base 128MB of RAM in very short order. So, as I said before,
if the machine has less than 256MB of RAM it's under powered.

> If you are using it for more than just
> basics, go for 512MB if your machine supports it.

Anyone running a machine with 96MB of RAM is obviously not doing much
with it, and they were concerned about cost, so suggesting that they
moved to 512MB, while a good idea for many, is a waste for them. 256MB
of RAM would be an ideal amount for this users.

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In news:QrhEe.24205$5N3.16032@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
fred <fred@hotmaim.con> typed:

> I have a 96MB Dell Inspiron 7500 with XP Home and it works but
> it's
> sluggish probably due to VM thrashing.


Undoubtedly. 96MB is *way* too little for running XP, unless you
do nothing with it but play solitaire.

How much memory you need depends on what apps you run, but almost
everyone needs at least 256MB for decent performance. For some
people, for example those who edit large photographic images,
more than 256MB--even much more--can be required for good
performance.


> My questions is whether SP2
> will exacerbate the RAM shortage, leave it the same or make it
> better.


It certainly won't make it any better. It might make it slighly
worse, but my guess is that any difference would be small.


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At least 2 others answered, did you read them?

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
news:uHAEe.27298$5N3.23@bgtnsc05-> THANKS for a straight answer to the
question that this OP actually posed.
> It came at the 14th post to this thread. Others take a HINT.

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There is little need to read the entire thread since you received multiple
similar answers early as well as Ken's.
If a definitive Yes or "NO" is what you wanted, you never got it.
Or were you meaning you did not read the answers?
The answers seem to agree, minimal to no difference with SP-2 and
suggestions for more memory before you made clear you did not want to spend
the $.

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http://www.dts-l.org


"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
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> How about just NO.
>
> Reread the thread.
>
> The others didn't provide crisp and unclouded answer. You should take
> this as a learning experience about proper Usenet professionalism.

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"fred" <fred@hotmaim.con> wrote in message
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>
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
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>> Interesting answer since you clearly did not ignore the post.
>> Perhaps you should take the suggestion you gave earlier "...Usenet
>> professionalism.".
>
> Case proved.
>

I can almost see your lip quivering. Awwwww........