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P Bowles wrote:
>Also, at least the OK army list layout is reasonable. For whatever
reason, the
>new 40k Codici suffer from a layout that actually hides the unit
names...
Yes, that is annoying. What was wrong with the previous (Tau - WH)
layout? I presume OK follows the standard WFB army book layout.
> MORDHEIM
>
> Halfling Thief £5
>
> Okay, I like Hired Swords as much as anyone, but can we please have a
> moratorium on new Hired Swords and warbands for Mordheim?
Probably not likely to get this wish. Hired Swords are Mordheim Dogs
of War.
Granted, and they're good to have, but we have countless DoW that
exist in 'unofficial', non-finalised form without models: the Warrior
Priest, Duelist, Bard, Mule Skinner and others, the Witch is still
apparently being finalised ruleswise despite having a model, and the
'official' Imp Assassin and Tilean Marksman still have to use WFB
models, with none of their own in the range. Plus there are additions
to the basic warbands like the Priest of Morr and Wolf Priest.
>GW has decided that "blender" armies are their future, so this trend
will only
>accelerate. Witness DH, WH, OK -- all with the express ability to
blend across
>other armies, after the Kroot were reworked to be allies.
However, Dogs of War themselves are barely in evidence and there are
only, what, four RoRs with current models (Ruglud's Orcs, Cursed
Company, Mengil's Maneaters and Malakai Makaisson's Goblin Hewer).
Even the 6th Ed. Kislevites are MO only.
>> As for Haley himself, he starts by coming straight out and saying
>>that WD was a catalogue for too long, and that he wants it to
>> follow the recent trend of becoming more of a hobby mag.
>Time shall tell.
Well, this magazine has more typos in it than most recent ones, but
I'm not sure if that's directly his fault.
>> Finally, there are previews of the Epic Scorpion and Cobra
>Both in Mk.2 style?
Yes.
>> IT'S SHOWTIME
>> One not-very-prominent race that is mentioned is the Wood Elves,
>> who will get heavy cav (those blasted elk-riders, I suppose)
>I wonder how they will do this. I'd assume a Rare with a point less
armour
>than Silver Helms.
Maximum save 3+ seems reasonable. At a guess WE will get something
with the warboar/Cold One's armour rule to give them the extra save.
Since GRs are Core, the heavy cav will probably be Special like the
Orc, DE and Lizard equivalents.
>> I can't help feeling it's time the DoW had another
>> revision themselves, actually...
>Amen.
Well, since the list's last incarnation they've gained five units
(Gryphon Legion, Ogre Bulls, Ogre Ironguts, Ogre Leadbelchers and Ogre
Maneaters) and they've effectively lost one (DoW Ogres, which are no
longer useable with Ironguts and Bulls taking their place).
>> the new Ogre Bull is indisputably the best of them,
>Yes, but this says rather little.
True, but I thought it was even worse than that. It's true that GW's
Zombie Ogre skin tone doesn't do them any favours, though.
> We're shown some concept mock-ups made before the finished models,
> which is probably a mistake - the Great Taurus + Boar Chariot +
> Spear Chukka scraplauncher mock-up is better than the finished
> version, though looks perhaps a little too sophisticated.
Hmm... Now I'm curious to take a peek.
Well, it's a boar chariot pulled by a heavily greenstuffed horned
bull...
>> The Orc player continues last month's trend of wasting money on
>> pricey purchases at the expense of basic troops (his Black Orc
>> Champion is Borgut Facebeater). As such he still doesn't have a
>> basic, playable army.
>"I spoke at great length with Paul Sawyer about what my next
purchases ought to
>be, and I followed his sound recommendations to the letter."
"He told me that I needed some Orc plastics, but not for a while yet.
He urged me to make this point repeatedly in future articles."
> We're also given a list of victories by army
Awesome. I wonder how the DoW and CD did.
Dogs of War: 2,284 victories. Ranked 28 of 34, above Errantry War,
Clan Eshin, Hordes of Chaos (as opposed to Power-specific and
Undivided mortal armies, Archaon's Horde and Daemonic Legions), Chaos
Dwarfs, Cult of Ulric (as opposed to Army of Middenland) and Kislev.
Chaos Dwarfs: 992 victories. Ranked 32 of 34, above Cult of Ulric and
Kislev.
Philip Bowles
P Bowles wrote:
>Also, at least the OK army list layout is reasonable. For whatever
reason, the
>new 40k Codici suffer from a layout that actually hides the unit
names...
Yes, that is annoying. What was wrong with the previous (Tau - WH)
layout? I presume OK follows the standard WFB army book layout.
> MORDHEIM
>
> Halfling Thief £5
>
> Okay, I like Hired Swords as much as anyone, but can we please have a
> moratorium on new Hired Swords and warbands for Mordheim?
Probably not likely to get this wish. Hired Swords are Mordheim Dogs
of War.
Granted, and they're good to have, but we have countless DoW that
exist in 'unofficial', non-finalised form without models: the Warrior
Priest, Duelist, Bard, Mule Skinner and others, the Witch is still
apparently being finalised ruleswise despite having a model, and the
'official' Imp Assassin and Tilean Marksman still have to use WFB
models, with none of their own in the range. Plus there are additions
to the basic warbands like the Priest of Morr and Wolf Priest.
>GW has decided that "blender" armies are their future, so this trend
will only
>accelerate. Witness DH, WH, OK -- all with the express ability to
blend across
>other armies, after the Kroot were reworked to be allies.
However, Dogs of War themselves are barely in evidence and there are
only, what, four RoRs with current models (Ruglud's Orcs, Cursed
Company, Mengil's Maneaters and Malakai Makaisson's Goblin Hewer).
Even the 6th Ed. Kislevites are MO only.
>> As for Haley himself, he starts by coming straight out and saying
>>that WD was a catalogue for too long, and that he wants it to
>> follow the recent trend of becoming more of a hobby mag.
>Time shall tell.
Well, this magazine has more typos in it than most recent ones, but
I'm not sure if that's directly his fault.
>> Finally, there are previews of the Epic Scorpion and Cobra
>Both in Mk.2 style?
Yes.
>> IT'S SHOWTIME
>> One not-very-prominent race that is mentioned is the Wood Elves,
>> who will get heavy cav (those blasted elk-riders, I suppose)
>I wonder how they will do this. I'd assume a Rare with a point less
armour
>than Silver Helms.
Maximum save 3+ seems reasonable. At a guess WE will get something
with the warboar/Cold One's armour rule to give them the extra save.
Since GRs are Core, the heavy cav will probably be Special like the
Orc, DE and Lizard equivalents.
>> I can't help feeling it's time the DoW had another
>> revision themselves, actually...
>Amen.
Well, since the list's last incarnation they've gained five units
(Gryphon Legion, Ogre Bulls, Ogre Ironguts, Ogre Leadbelchers and Ogre
Maneaters) and they've effectively lost one (DoW Ogres, which are no
longer useable with Ironguts and Bulls taking their place).
>> the new Ogre Bull is indisputably the best of them,
>Yes, but this says rather little.
True, but I thought it was even worse than that. It's true that GW's
Zombie Ogre skin tone doesn't do them any favours, though.
> We're shown some concept mock-ups made before the finished models,
> which is probably a mistake - the Great Taurus + Boar Chariot +
> Spear Chukka scraplauncher mock-up is better than the finished
> version, though looks perhaps a little too sophisticated.
Hmm... Now I'm curious to take a peek.
Well, it's a boar chariot pulled by a heavily greenstuffed horned
bull...
>> The Orc player continues last month's trend of wasting money on
>> pricey purchases at the expense of basic troops (his Black Orc
>> Champion is Borgut Facebeater). As such he still doesn't have a
>> basic, playable army.
>"I spoke at great length with Paul Sawyer about what my next
purchases ought to
>be, and I followed his sound recommendations to the letter."
"He told me that I needed some Orc plastics, but not for a while yet.
He urged me to make this point repeatedly in future articles."
> We're also given a list of victories by army
Awesome. I wonder how the DoW and CD did.
Dogs of War: 2,284 victories. Ranked 28 of 34, above Errantry War,
Clan Eshin, Hordes of Chaos (as opposed to Power-specific and
Undivided mortal armies, Archaon's Horde and Daemonic Legions), Chaos
Dwarfs, Cult of Ulric (as opposed to Army of Middenland) and Kislev.
Chaos Dwarfs: 992 victories. Ranked 32 of 34, above Cult of Ulric and
Kislev.
Philip Bowles
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