memory speed a limit of cpu type ??

tdk

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Hello,

Im looking to build a new system - it seems that the cpus
on offer from amd only support ddr memory up to 400mhz (even
though they have a 2gig fsb) while the intel chips will
support up to 667 ddr2 memory (even though most intels only
support an 800mhz fsb).

Is the memory speed limited by the cpu arch, motherboards,?

Wont the slow ddr memory (3200) become a choke point
for the system?

cheers,
tdk
 

fishmahn

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Memory speed is limited by both, as well as the memory technology itself.

DDR memory specifications say DDR400 is the fastest DDR. Unofficially, there is DDR that has far exceeded that (500+), and with proper choice of mobo, you can utilize the memory at that speed.

Memory has been a choke point since the 80386 days.

AMD doubled memory bandwidth by going dual channel with socket 939. That doubling of memory bandwidth only increased performance about 5%, so I'd say you're not losing much if anything to that perceived (but not real) 'limitation'. AMD is much more latency-driven than bandwidth-driven, so they don't need DDR2 yet.

DDR2, because of its increased latencies, actually performs slower than DDR at the same speed. It takes DDR2-667 to get better performance than DDR400, and most of that performance increase is lost if the FSB isn't up there too.

Mike.
 

mozzartusm

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Ill take my nasty old DDR2 any day. Please check my sig[/pokes chest out, but gut falls over my belt] :eek:

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fishmahn

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:lol: I'd take your DDR2 also... but my system has trouble hitting 200fsb, let alone 500+ :eek: (mobo's fault)

Mike.

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This is very new to the market. It does some very strange things at certain settings. Im going to post about it later.

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Corsair XMS2 DDR2 8000UL @ DDR2 <font color=red>1068</font color=red> 5-3-2-9
SuperPI in 25 Seconds and a verified bandwidth of 9267 MB/s