I have two system, my fast one for running games, using win98. My other slower one for doing everything els, using WinXP.
Again I'm going to ask the question, which is the best OS for raw speed. Which one will play UT the best?
<b>I'm not talking about stability, I'm talking strictly for gaming speed.</b>
Both system are running well, doing what they do. And I hate to screw this up now, so I'm hesitant to give WinXP another shot with my GF4. Well
It's pretty obvious I'm talking between WinXP and Win98. Your reply with Unix is just silly.
I spent close to a month trying to get WinXP to dual boot with Win98 using my Gf4, and I wasn't very successful. It was a very frustrating time, and now that I have both of my system working well, I don't want to screw them up, unless it's worth it. For me to get my GF4 to work with WinXP I might have to change things in my BIOS that I never touch before, or hope they have a BIOS update out, or get another mobo and hope that one works.
I have to ask myself is it worth it, cause it could get complicated. My Win98 is paired with my GF4, and I just use it for gaming, and it does this very well. It plays all my games, fast and smooth. Now before I put a lot of time into saving my set up I have now, and more time into getting my GF4 to play well with WinXP I want to be 100% sure I'm making the right decision.
I know this question has been ask many times before, but I added my circumstances, even mentioned UT in hope to find some opinions, is this to much to ask?
P.S I already have your opinion, WinXP right! No need to reply again, thank you. ba bye
Hey Baby, want to play with my computer?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by jiffy on 08/05/02 07:33 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
Ditch that old pile of code 98 and go with Windows XP Pro full-time. Service Pack 1 will be out in weeks with DX9, and you'll have a nice stable gaming PC. I did the dual boot thing too and it's very trouble-some, you don't need the old OS. All current, most old, and all upcoming games support XP.
Well, just because you don't like Unix, doesn't mean it's not the answer.
But as far as msft goez, I'd dual boot Xp and Me. I use system commander, and it's completely headache free.
Addressing your stability problems with your GF4: were you loading the 4n1's under XP? And what detonator's were you trying?
For the longest time, I had lockups due to my video card. Actually, they weren't lockups; it would BSOD on me and flash something about VGA.vxd, then reboot. I also had IDE data corruption, but that was more the SB live's fault.
If you're gonna dual again don't use ME. You said duak-booting sucked and I agree it sucks since XP supports almost anything the old windows could. Millenium Ed is the worst OS ms has ever made. It's unreliable, prone to crashing itself and not very stable. It's 98SE with system restore and other components that it can't handle and causes it to crash. 98SE is far more stable.
Again, just my opinion, stay clear of the old, unstable windows 95-98-me kernel, keep it off yer machine and enjoy windows XP pro SP1. I have a G4 Ti and VIA 266A chipset, no troubles at all. DL the nvidia files from their site for XP/2000 and don't load the VIA 4in1's, they're not neccessary and if anything they cause issues.
I don't have anything against Unix, but it's not for me.
Why did you say, I'd dual boot XP and Me?
I tried with the 4-1, without the 4-1, I tried it before and after the driver, and as for the detonator, not sure now, but I tried many of them, and as soon as I loaded the driver is when the problem started, even without other PCI cards in. The bad part is a couple weeks after fooling around with it, I notice that my mouse was going on the bum. When I would turn it upside down the light would go off, and it was starting to make the computer freeze. Now I'm not 100% sure if this was or wasn't giving me any problem when I was trying to set up WinXP. Regardless, I never seen a system do so many weird things in all my time.
I don't have these problem with XP paired up with my Gf2 card, as long as I don't update the driver, because as soon as I do, then I can't play music videos at Launch. And that was before any updates or the 4-1, in fact I made all the updates, also the 4-1 in hopes to play the video, no luck, so I put the old driver back.
After having all that trouble, and now having both system running well, and knowing the trouble I could face again. That's why I post this beaten to death question. I want to be darn sure WinXP will be faster, also play my UT with the same smoothness as my 98. I do have my doubts, others have confirm the same, but I still keep hearing people say WinXP is faster. I don't know if they just say that because everybody els does, or what. I couldn't get the two side by side to test them, so yes, I would like some proof, the only test I seen say 98 if faster, if you tweak XP, then tweak 98 as well.
Hey Baby, want to play with my computer?<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by jiffy on 08/05/02 05:49 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
Okay for only speed here are two benchmarks. One is 98SE vs XP and Me vs XP.
Check out the reports, and if you want an OS that plays a game at about the same speed, but will probably crash at some point into the game stick with 98 or Me.
Thanks for the links, I already seen those. I think one state's that WinXP could be tweak, then it might be faster, but what if Win98 is tweak as well? Sure minus a few FPS is no sweat, if that was all it was.
Since nobody is going to step up and say WinXP blows Win98 away for gaming and give me some results to boot. I think I can conclude I will leave my system the way they are.
"Check out the reports, and if you want an OS that plays a game at about the same speed, but will probably crash at some point into the game stick with 98 or Me."
What do you think I just walk in off of the street? I been playing games with Win98 for over three years with good results. Sure I had games freeze, haven't you with WinXP? Mine has been mainly because the CPU got to hot. Since my PC is not overclock it is very stable in games. There's more to a game freezing then just the OS, your hardware, how you have it set up, and the game it self play an apart too, and I'm sure WinXP will freeze in games as well.
Thanks for your help. This is great I have my PC set up great, and for a change I'm not going to screw them up. Of coarse after writing this there going to fall all apart on me. hehe
If you don't really care for all of XP's features, and win98se doesn't crash too much, or to the extent that it bothers u, stick with it. Or until another os blows it out of the water for u. About games that crash, well...if it's the games code thats causing the error...not too much an os can do, tho with XP, in most cases, u won't have to reboot. I've tried NWN's on xp, crashed once in awhile, where it also just freezes and the only option is the reset button :S.
Sounds good to me, but don't get me wrong, I do like WinXP and use it every day. It's just I couldn't get it to work with my GF4, and now I'm not sure if my mouse played a part in that since it was going bad, but I have doubt that was causing all the problems. So if WinXP doesn't kick Win98 butt, chances are I would have still used Win98 for games in a dual boot if I was able to get it set up this time around. It's not to bad having two OS, cause all my hardware and software are sure to work on one of the OS.
Thanks everybody for your help, for the time being, I'm not going to change a thing.
Let's say you're processor locked. That is, you have a 733 celeron and a GF4 4600, trying to play Medal of Honor at max. Win9x will be choppy. WinXP will be choppy. But, you *will* pull more FPS under XP than under 9x.
8 fps vs. 13fps.
If you are vid card locked, then 9x will pull several more fps than XP. Even completely tricked out XP vs. tricked out 9x. So pair up a GTS with a 1.4ghz tbird, and 9x will beat out XP. But, only about 20% tops. So you'll pull 30 fps with XP, 36fps with 9x.
If you have a tbird (or any fully unlockable cpu) and a dual boot machine, you can easily test this out yourself.
For all the GF4`s running without problems under XP I would think your problem is one of a driver issue or hardware issue. I doubt XP in and of itself is the problem. Try all the XP GF4 type drivers. Oh...is your XP machine overclocked in any way?
I want to die like my Grandfather...in my sleep...not screaming in terror like his passengers.
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