[Painting] Smooth, solid yellow?

[mb]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

"MB" <not@available.com> wrote in message
news:upih01p8ko80lfo5trag7fs7jsf7gel0gu@4ax.com...
>I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
> primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
> was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
> paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
> any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?

Use non-GW paints, and always re-undercoat in white.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

"MB" <not@available.com> wrote in message
news:upih01p8ko80lfo5trag7fs7jsf7gel0gu@4ax.com...
> I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
> primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
> was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
> paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
> any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?

Recently I had to paint white shoulder pads on black-primed 40K Black
Templars. Using extra-thinned acrylic (Vallejo Game Color) paint, I applied
4 coats (letting them dry in between, of course) to get a nice, even coat.
This is actually a technique I use not infrequently on military models (you
know, plastic historical tanks and airplanes) to achieve even, airbrush-like
finish with brush painting.

In the future, I plan on priming it grey and painting black and white
separately (although for the Black Templars, using black primer has obvious
advantages). Or use an airbrush to do the white coat.

Ooops, I should perhaps say hello to all. My first post in the Warhammer
newsgroup here, although I've been lurking on and off for a long while. I
don't actually play the game (FB or 40K) yet, having been hooked into the
game/miniatures by model building/painting angle. I'm from 1/35th scale
modeling background.

Also have a bad habit to top-post, so gotta remember to observe the
netiqutte here.

Thank you,

Hyun Yu

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:05:17 -0500, "Craig Little"
<craig.little@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>"MB" <not@available.com> wrote in message
>news:upih01p8ko80lfo5trag7fs7jsf7gel0gu@4ax.com...
>>I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
>> primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
>> was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
>> paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
>> any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?
>
>Use non-GW paints, and always re-undercoat in white.

Bleached Bone also works pretty good.
-Erik
"There's a lot to be said for just letting go. It also helps to keep in mind that that bastard Grim Reaper is loose in the room and moving targets are harder to hit."
-Randy Wayne White

RGMW FAQ @ http://www.rgmw.org
Read it for your own good!

 

[SPAM]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

MB wrote:
> I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
> primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint
gold
> was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
> paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are
there
> any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?

Has anyone ever tried the trick shown in the Citadel Painting Guide?
Painting the model orange, thoroughly drybrushing it white, and then
coating it with a yellow glaze?

It looked easy, but I imagine you'd have to get the glaze the right
consistency to make sure it coated evenly. That's another way to do it
anyway, especially if you're working with Citadel Colour. The glaze
would also make it shiny (although matte varnish afterward might help
that if that wasn't a desired effect).

Still it's an idea.

Death Quaker

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

Out from under a rock popped MB and said
[snip]
> Are there
> any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?

Use nice thin coats of paint.

If you want to create shading paint it in successive coats of lighter
and lighter brown up to yellow, slowly covering less of the surface.
Then paint over four to six coats of very thin yellow paint.

Not GW yellow paint either. Check out the Paints section on our web site
for alternatives. link in my sig.

--
Rob Singers RGMW FAQ Maintainer. See it @ http://www.rgmw.org
Send submissions to submissions at rgmw dot org changing the obvious.
"I present to RGMW....the real life model for StrongBad." (c) Inc 2003
Credo Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

black is fine.............

NEVER NEVER NEVER paint red or yellow on white undercoats. That's basic art
class stuff......

Red and yellow are the weakest colours in any range and if you MUST use a
pale undercoat use grey. It's all down to return of light passing through
the pigment.

I suggest a sandy or russet basecoat (Humbrol matt acrylics are great for
this as they are dense) and I wouls suggest looking at Andreacolor which are
made by Vallejo for Andrea, the large scale figure makers and as such are
actually superior to most (even Vallejo's own) range. You can get them from
Historex Agents and I have been using them for magazine and TV work for 2
years now without complaint.

A touch and I mean TOUCH of white in the yellow can sometimes help too.

Hope this is of use

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

Well if it's gold and it's not NMM, then I'd say don't use yellow, use
brown. If it's a flat area you may want to add some green stuff to give
it some texture before you paint.

--Chris

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

MB wrote:
> I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
> primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
> was to give it a coat of yellow.

Are you trying to paint gold, or yellow?

If you're trying to paint gold, I'd start with tin bitz and work my way
up to gold / silver / white with a flesh wash finish.

If you're trying to paint yellow, I'd start with a light brown or tan
and work my up to yellow / white with a yellow wash finish.

Either way, smooth, solid color is built up with thin layers of paint
that is allowed to dry completely between layers.

--
--- John Hwang "JohnHwang...@cs.com.no.com"
\-|-/
| A.K.D. F.E.M.C.
| Horned Blood Cross Terror LED Speed Jagd Destiny

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:26:49 -0700, MB <not@available.com> wrote:

>I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
>primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
>was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
>paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
>any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?

I had a lot of problem with this back in the day, basically finding
nothing that worked. I eventually went into an art supply store and
picked up a tube of Liquitex Artist Color - Cadmium Yellow Deep, and
it was opaque enough for me to be satisfied with. Still needs some
thinning, but it does the job.

--sugarman--

 

[mb]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:26:49 -0700, MB <not@available.com> wrote:

>I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
>primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
>was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
>paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
>any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?

Thanks for the tips. I am trying to paint gold. I'll take a look at
some of the other brands of paints. I only buy GW paints because
they're easy to find (and it gives me an excuse to buy more minis). I
don't spend enough time painting to be an expert, I just paint in my
spare time. I do try to find tips that help me become better over
time, of course.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

The Andrea Colours work out at £1.15 per bottle


At least TRY a couple




"MB" <not@available.com> wrote in message
newsgkk01ltr8vflqagg6nm1u0dfatk9avdsq@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:26:49 -0700, MB <not@available.com> wrote:
>
>>I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
>>primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
>>was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
>>paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
>>any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?
>
> Thanks for the tips. I am trying to paint gold. I'll take a look at
> some of the other brands of paints. I only buy GW paints because
> they're easy to find (and it gives me an excuse to buy more minis). I
> don't spend enough time painting to be an expert, I just paint in my
> spare time. I do try to find tips that help me become better over
> time, of course.

 

[mb]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:59:57 GMT, "Snarfgargle the 43rd The
Condottiere" <snargargle@thepalace.com> wrote:

>The Andrea Colours work out at £1.15 per bottle
>
>
>At least TRY a couple
>
>
>
>

Ok, I guess it wouldn't hurt. Any US websites I can buy from?

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

In article <4jrm019isihsmdhus2kktr2dj195j8dveu@4ax.com>, MB,
not@available.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:59:57 GMT, "Snarfgargle the 43rd The
> Condottiere" <snargargle@thepalace.com> wrote:
>
> >The Andrea Colours work out at £1.15 per bottle
> >
> >
> >At least TRY a couple
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> Ok, I guess it wouldn't hurt. Any US websites I can buy from?
>
If you're in the US - let us know. I can recommend a number of
different Yellows ranging from inexpensive craft style acrylics you may
like the results of to more expensive artist grade acrylics with
stronger and brighter hues.

Myrmidon

--
"I'm already impoverished from buying wargames minis,
and I'm too knackered for riotous living..."

-- Moramarth

RGMW FAQ: http://www.rgmw.org

Or...

http://www.sheppard.demon.co.uk/rgmw_faq/rgmw_faq.htm

 

[mb]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:45:00 GMT, Myrmidon <ImNot@home.com> wrote:

>In article <4jrm019isihsmdhus2kktr2dj195j8dveu@4ax.com>, MB,
>not@available.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
>> On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:59:57 GMT, "Snarfgargle the 43rd The
>> Condottiere" <snargargle@thepalace.com> wrote:
>>
>> >The Andrea Colours work out at £1.15 per bottle
>> >
>> >
>> >At least TRY a couple
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Ok, I guess it wouldn't hurt. Any US websites I can buy from?
>>
> If you're in the US - let us know. I can recommend a number of
>different Yellows ranging from inexpensive craft style acrylics you may
>like the results of to more expensive artist grade acrylics with
>stronger and brighter hues.
>
> Myrmidon

I am in the US. Tucson doesn't seem to have much variety in the way
of hobby stores, but maybe I am just not looking enough. There is a
Michael's close by. Money for quality paints isn't an issue when
you're talking about an extra dollar or so.

 

[Guest]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

Myrmidon entered the world pub known as rec.games.miniatures.warhammer and
said...

> In article <4jrm019isihsmdhus2kktr2dj195j8dveu@4ax.com>, MB,
> not@available.com Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> > On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 21:59:57 GMT, "Snarfgargle the 43rd The
> > Condottiere" <snargargle@thepalace.com> wrote:
> >
> > >The Andrea Colours work out at £1.15 per bottle
> > >
> > >
> > >At least TRY a couple
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Ok, I guess it wouldn't hurt. Any US websites I can buy from?
> >
> If you're in the US - let us know. I can recommend a number of
> different Yellows ranging from inexpensive craft style acrylics you may
> like the results of to more expensive artist grade acrylics with
> stronger and brighter hues.
>

Amazingly enough I have found that the expensive artist grade acrylics
actually work out cheaper, as you use so little of it at a time on mini's....


--
Jim M
posted on this day, the 4,181st of September 1993

"Look alive. Here comes a buzzard." -- Walt Kelly (Pogo)
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I
go into the other room and read a book." -- Groucho Marx

http://jimac.tripod.com

 

[mb]

Archived from groups: rec.games.miniatures.warhammer (More info?)

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 11:16:56 -0700, MB <not@available.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 07:26:49 -0700, MB <not@available.com> wrote:
>
>>I am painting an old choas lord on steed, the one with the axe. I
>>primed him in black. Now I read some where the best way to paint gold
>>was to give it a coat of yellow. It seems no matter what color I
>>paint on top of, yellow goes on really uneven and splotchy. Are there
>>any secrets to painting a nice smooth yellow?
>
>Thanks for the tips. I am trying to paint gold. I'll take a look at
>some of the other brands of paints. I only buy GW paints because
>they're easy to find (and it gives me an excuse to buy more minis). I
>don't spend enough time painting to be an expert, I just paint in my
>spare time. I do try to find tips that help me become better over
>time, of course.

Wow! I am very impressed with Reaper's pro paints. I found them at a
local gaming store and picked up a few bottles. What a difference.