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Avatar DRM so bad it won't play on bluray players

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April 23, 2010 4:39:20 PM

Well this is just another example of drm gone wrong ,Avatar has so much drm it refuses to play on many bluray players now how do i get a refund store does not take back opened movies or software, will not play on 3 blu-ray players or the ps3, guess its class action lawsuit time from what i heard 100,000's people are having same problem on many forum sites.
April 29, 2010 4:52:05 PM

techguy911 said:
Well this is just another example of drm gone wrong ,Avatar has so much drm it refuses to play on many bluray players now how do i get a refund store does not take back opened movies or software, will not play on 3 blu-ray players or the ps3, guess its class action lawsuit time from what i heard 100,000's people are having same problem on many forum sites.

Locate the manufacturers website
write to manufacturer of the product, ask how they plan to resolve it.
April 29, 2010 6:23:51 PM

I had asked one of my co-workers, who bought the Blu-Ray version, if he had any problems. He stated that while it did take an extraordinary amount of time to actually load, once it did, there were no problems. I don't know what brand/model of Blu-Ray player he has, but he did mention that he did upgrade the firmware on the device not long after purchase.

I wonder how many of these people who are having issues would have them solved by updating firmware versions?

-Wolf sends
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April 30, 2010 6:12:52 PM

Wolfshadw said:
I had asked one of my co-workers, who bought the Blu-Ray version, if he had any problems. He stated that while it did take an extraordinary amount of time to actually load, once it did, there were no problems. I don't know what brand/model of Blu-Ray player he has, but he did mention that he did upgrade the firmware on the device not long after purchase.

I wonder how many of these people who are having issues would have them solved by updating firmware versions?

-Wolf sends


After reading this thread I went home last night & tried my Avatar BD in the old first-gen Sony standalone player, a new HP laptop with BD drive, and my Sony PS3 - took a long time to load in the standalone player, but pretty quickly (for BD anyway) on the laptop and PS3 - no playback problems and yes I routinely check for and update the firmware on all 3. Some of the newer BD features require a certain firmware level of support so that could hinder or prevent playback on older versions.
Anonymous
April 30, 2010 6:35:29 PM

For those interested, I found a home theater blog on the web that solved my problem. It may work for you or anyone who has a problem loading/watching the AVATAR bluray on their bluray player.

Check it out: http://www.totalcontrolremotes.com/blog

Pretty cool website too.

Good luck,
Jimmy Bellagio
April 30, 2010 9:14:34 PM

I wonder if Avatar requires HDMI 1.3 cables? I did notice playing it on my PS3 that it had 36-bit color space and Dolby TrueHD, both of which are HDMI 1.3 supported specs. From THIS site:

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HDMI 1.3. What you need to know
Background:
The inevitable rule in the information age is: “if it can be digitized, it will.”
The transition from analog to digital in the video world has been quick and a key enabler of this has been HDMI, High Definition Multimedia Interface. Virtually all HD equipment utilizes HDMI to transport audio/video from the sources to the display. The original rendition of HDMI, HDMI 1.0 was released back in 2002 and has been the de facto standard for HD Video transmission. As the digital revolution has continued, HDMI has also evolved from 1.0, 1.1, 1.2 and mostly recently HDMI 1.3.

Revision History:

HDMI 1.0 -Single-cable digital audio/video connection with a maximum bitrate of 4.9 Gbit/s. Supports up to 165Mpixels/s video (1080p60 Hz or UXGA) and 8-channel/192 kHz/24-bit audio.

HDMI 1.1 - Added support for DVD audio

HDMI 1.2 -Added support for One Bit Audio, used on Super Audio CDs, up to 8 channels. Ability for PC sources to use native RGB color-space while retaining the option to support the YCbCr CE color space.

HDMI 1.3- Increases single-link bandwidth to 340 MHz (10.2 Gbit/s)
-Optionally supports 30-bit, 36-bit, and 48-bit xvYCC with Deep Color or over one billion colors, up from 24-bit sRGB or YCbCr in previous versions.
-Incorporates automatic audio syncing (lip sync) capability.
-Supports output of Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio streams for external decoding by AV receivers.

-Availability of a new mini connector for devices such as camcorders.

Do I need HDMI 1.3:

You will still get incredible HD picture quality with HDMI 1.1 and 1.2 and all versions support 1080P. HDMI 1.3 is backwards compatible with previous versions of HDMI. Getting HDMI 1.3 display and HDMI sources will enable you to take advantage of the extra feature enhancements available. If you are in the market for a new HDTV, then it would be advisable to get one with HDMI 1.3 support. However, you should look for the specific features that is supported.

HDMI 1.3 – what is different:

On the physical layer level, all HDMI versions utilize Transmission Minimized Differential Signaling, TMDS and the physical connector looks identical. The major enhancements of HDMI 1.3 are:

Expanded Data Rate Support
HDMI 1.2 supports aggregate data rate of 4.95 Gbps.
In order to ensure that HDMI is the connectivity of the future, HDMI 1.3 has provisions to eventually double the bandwidth from 4.95 Gbps to 10.2 Gbps. For comparative purpose, USB 2.0 has a maximum data transfer rate of 480 Mbps, 1/20 of the data rate of HDMI 1.3.

Although, HDMI 1.3 has provision for up to 10.2Gbps, the transition will be gradual with the first devices available to achieve 6.75Gbps initially.

Deeper Color and higher resolution
The increased bandwidth in HDMI 1.3 enables higher display resolutions beyond the typical 1920x1080P resolution and improved color depth. For example, HDMI 1.2 allows 8 bits/ pixel to be allocated for color information. In version 1.3, HDMI has provisions to support 10, 12 and 16 bit color/ pixel thus allowing for even improvement in picture quality.

Lip Synch Correction
The modern HDTV performs complex digital processing to the incoming video signal such as de-interlacing, format conversion, noise reduction and etc. The digital video processing takes finite time to execute and must be synchronized with the audio portion of the incoming signal to ensure that both video and audio are synchronized and no delay is perceived. Most HDTV have compensation to ensure that the audio and video are properly synchronized However, many consumers will likely process the audio separately in a surround sound system. HDMI 1.3’s lip synch feature allows the audio and video signal to be synchronized to external HDMI devices.



May 1, 2010 8:45:25 AM

Yeah, this question has been asked in many forums these days. We have to wait for the update of firmware. Before the update come out, i think we could use this way to play Avatar on our player. Decrypt and rip the avatar movie off from the disc. Then we can get the m2ts files to play on our blu-ray player. And i just came accross a video tool release saying it can remove the protectioin of MKB V17 Avatar Blu-ray disc uses from prlog.com.
http://www.prlog.org/10632848-pavtube-blu-ray-ripper-36...
Hope this helps. :bounce: 
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