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Well, I accidentally found out from the FLGS that my aunt has picked up a
box of Thousand Sons minis for my birthday. This is fine by me: some of you
may remember that before I chose Word Bearers for my CSMs, I was looking
hard at a KSons army. I love the minis and am happy for an excuse to
acquire some, so I'm now looking at a new cash-cheap, incredibly
point-spendy army! However, while I was sitting around playing with the old
ideas I had for a very characterful KSons force, I came across what looks
like a big contradiction. On p. 49 of the CSM Codex there's a heading
entitled "Weaponry of the Followers of Tzeentch." Under the subheading
"Chaos Marines" it says:
"Apart from Aspiring Champions all models must use bolters as their standard
weaponry and cannot upgrade any weaponry...."
However, Possessed (the only other Chaos Marine unit that can take the Mark
of Tzeentch) carry bolt pistols and close combat weapons; they _do not_ have
the option to choose between BPs/CCWs and Bolters, or take
plasma/meltas/etc. My guess is that GW simply meant to require 'normal'
Chaos Marines with the MoT - that is to say, Thousand Sons - to use _only_
bolters, not BPs and not any of the other normal optional/special/heavy
weapons open to unMarked CSMs.
Under this interpretation, the Possessed, who have NO optional weapons other
than the BP/CCW combo should not be included under that rule. However, I've
gone wrong before trying to assume a "rational" interpretation of GW rules
as opposed to an apparently contradictory literalist reading. Surprising
no-one, the FAQ is silent on this point. Am I correct in assuming that
Possessed with the MoT can go on carrying their BP/CCWs? If so, they really
should have been listed with the Chosen subheading on p. 49 for the "No
Special Restrictions" comment, but that would have meant things would be
clear and easy to follow, so we all know that wasn't going to happen.
Has anyone seen KSon possessed at an "official" GW tourney? How were they
armed? This might wind up not mattering, as I'm seriously considering
giving them all Daemonic Talons, but I'd prefer to know what the official
stance on this is.
Thanks,
--
Ken Coble
That which does not kill us makes us stranger.
-Trevor Goodchild, _Aeon Flux_
Well, I accidentally found out from the FLGS that my aunt has picked up a
box of Thousand Sons minis for my birthday. This is fine by me: some of you
may remember that before I chose Word Bearers for my CSMs, I was looking
hard at a KSons army. I love the minis and am happy for an excuse to
acquire some, so I'm now looking at a new cash-cheap, incredibly
point-spendy army! However, while I was sitting around playing with the old
ideas I had for a very characterful KSons force, I came across what looks
like a big contradiction. On p. 49 of the CSM Codex there's a heading
entitled "Weaponry of the Followers of Tzeentch." Under the subheading
"Chaos Marines" it says:
"Apart from Aspiring Champions all models must use bolters as their standard
weaponry and cannot upgrade any weaponry...."
However, Possessed (the only other Chaos Marine unit that can take the Mark
of Tzeentch) carry bolt pistols and close combat weapons; they _do not_ have
the option to choose between BPs/CCWs and Bolters, or take
plasma/meltas/etc. My guess is that GW simply meant to require 'normal'
Chaos Marines with the MoT - that is to say, Thousand Sons - to use _only_
bolters, not BPs and not any of the other normal optional/special/heavy
weapons open to unMarked CSMs.
Under this interpretation, the Possessed, who have NO optional weapons other
than the BP/CCW combo should not be included under that rule. However, I've
gone wrong before trying to assume a "rational" interpretation of GW rules
as opposed to an apparently contradictory literalist reading. Surprising
no-one, the FAQ is silent on this point. Am I correct in assuming that
Possessed with the MoT can go on carrying their BP/CCWs? If so, they really
should have been listed with the Chosen subheading on p. 49 for the "No
Special Restrictions" comment, but that would have meant things would be
clear and easy to follow, so we all know that wasn't going to happen.
Has anyone seen KSon possessed at an "official" GW tourney? How were they
armed? This might wind up not mattering, as I'm seriously considering
giving them all Daemonic Talons, but I'd prefer to know what the official
stance on this is.
Thanks,
--
Ken Coble
That which does not kill us makes us stranger.
-Trevor Goodchild, _Aeon Flux_