[40K] What's the point?

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Of Combi weapons that is. 15pts to fire a specail weapon once?
Didn't lightning calws differ from Master Carfted power sword?

pretty weak, I know but it is September...

Joe

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In article <zKkZe.363713$_o.277275@attbi_s71>, Desert Lurker,
ironavengers@spamersdie.ridgenet.net Varfed out the following in Timo
speak...
> Of Combi weapons that is. 15pts to fire a specail weapon once?

One shot wargear kicks ass! (At least for marines it does.) I
seriously wish Nids had the biological equivolent. Honestly - how
likely are you going to be in position to fire a flamer for example more
than once in a game? Anwser - not very likely. Vet Sgt or character
with a combi flamer has the potential to line up one good shot, it's
just unlikely that they'll get *more than one* even in a 6 turn game.
As for a combi bolter/plasma gun - you do realize you can use this 'one
shot' weapon to fire multiple times in a single 'shot' don't you?
Double tapping it gets you 2 templates for a reasonable risk factor and
damn low points. With the decent BS skill and 3+ save of your typical
marine, it becomes seriously attractive. Again, using this at a
critical time can effectively swing the course of a combat or the whole
game.

(For the Nids, I would have liked to have seen 'one shot' biomorphs like
'Mono-adrenal glands' that allowed a monstrous creature an extra 6
inches of movement {in either movement phase or HTH phase} once per game
- could only be taken once per critter. Or a 'Pyro-acid' one shot
flamer template. That sort of thing...)


> Didn't lightning calws differ from Master Carfted power sword?
>
Yeah, and they still do.

> pretty weak, I know but it is September...

It's always September, sometimes it's just 'more September' than others.


Myrmidon

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"Myrmidon" wrote...
> Desert Lurker Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
>> Of Combi weapons that is. 15pts to fire a specail weapon once?

> As for a combi bolter/plasma gun - you do realize you can use this 'one
> shot' weapon to fire multiple times in a single 'shot' don't you?
> Double tapping it gets you 2 templates for a reasonable risk factor and
> damn low points.

Templates? Its a combi-plasma *gun*, not a plasma cannon!

I've noticed 40K wargear tends to have far fewer shooty items than close
combat items - combi weapons are one of the few ways a character can upgrade
his ranged attack, though I'm not 100% convinced they're worth the points.
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In article <yhCZe.3665$oc.707@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Ward
B., wardcb@NOSPAMearthlink.net Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> "Myrmidon" wrote...
> > Desert Lurker Varfed out the following in Timo speak...
> >> Of Combi weapons that is. 15pts to fire a specail weapon once?
>
> > As for a combi bolter/plasma gun - you do realize you can use this 'one
> > shot' weapon to fire multiple times in a single 'shot' don't you?
> > Double tapping it gets you 2 templates for a reasonable risk factor and
> > damn low points.
>
> Templates? Its a combi-plasma *gun*, not a plasma cannon!

Doh! (That's it - I'm 'souping' mine up. Of course the thing
would have to have wheels on the bottom of it to have an 'under-slung'
plasma-cannon on a bolter. But that's what bribery and the local tech
marine are for in the first place

>
> I've noticed 40K wargear tends to have far fewer shooty items than close
> combat items - combi weapons are one of the few ways a character can upgrade
> his ranged attack, though I'm not 100% convinced they're worth the points.

Points wise I'd rate - combi flamer #1, combi-plasma #2, and combi-melta
a distant 3rd in terms of value. If you're close enough to both need
and use a melta, you should have gotten a power fist or melta-bombs
instead.

Myrmidon

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Myrmidon wrote:
> In article <zKkZe.363713$_o.277275@attbi_s71>, Desert Lurker,
> ironavengers@spamersdie.ridgenet.net Varfed out the following in Timo
> speak...
>
>>Of Combi weapons that is. 15pts to fire a specail weapon once?
>
>
> One shot wargear kicks ass! (At least for marines it does.) I
> seriously wish Nids had the biological equivolent. Honestly - how
> likely are you going to be in position to fire a flamer for example more
> than once in a game? Anwser - not very likely. Vet Sgt or character
> with a combi flamer has the potential to line up one good shot, it's
> just unlikely that they'll get *more than one* even in a 6 turn game.
> As for a combi bolter/plasma gun - you do realize you can use this 'one
> shot' weapon to fire multiple times in a single 'shot' don't you?
> Double tapping it gets you 2 templates for a reasonable risk factor and
> damn low points. With the decent BS skill and 3+ save of your typical
> marine, it becomes seriously attractive. Again, using this at a
> critical time can effectively swing the course of a combat or the whole
> game.
>
> (For the Nids, I would have liked to have seen 'one shot' biomorphs like
> 'Mono-adrenal glands' that allowed a monstrous creature an extra 6
> inches of movement {in either movement phase or HTH phase} once per game
> - could only be taken once per critter. Or a 'Pyro-acid' one shot
> flamer template. That sort of thing...)
>
>
>
>>Didn't lightning calws differ from Master Carfted power sword?
>>
>
> Yeah, and they still do.
>
>
>>pretty weak, I know but it is September...
>
>
> It's always September, sometimes it's just 'more September' than others.
>
>
> Myrmidon
>
CombiFlamer doesn't come on the Commander Sprue, and I'm too lazy/inept
to make one myself.
as said why not use a PP. Unless you need the 1 24" shot or that rapid
fire shot while moving. I *suppose* I could use it just cause I like the
look of the gun but I like the look of the melta better. Ho-hum.

I had a feeling MC was only 1 re-roll. But Never let research get in the
way of a good, or not so good, question.