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Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

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My 8300 is going on 8 months old and doesn't exhibit this problem.

<who@whatandwhere.com> wrote in message
news:000u60ddu1fi782d6kl4glp08grcer0cqj@4ax.com...
> Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
> warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
> happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
> it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
> older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
> suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
> answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
> deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
> not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
> suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
> with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
> the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
> the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
> and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
> brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
> solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
> all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
> replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
> the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
> figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
> solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
> try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
> time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
> one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

Reply to Larry

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A friend has the exact same problem with his 8300. Dell suggested replacing
the battery but he hasn't tried that yet.

<who@whatandwhere.com> wrote in message
news:000u60ddu1fi782d6kl4glp08grcer0cqj@4ax.com...
> Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
> warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
> happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
> it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
> older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
> suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
> answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
> deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
> not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
> suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
> with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
> the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
> the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
> and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
> brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
> solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
> all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
> replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
> the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
> figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
> solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
> try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
> time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
> one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

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on 03-04-2004 20:53 who@whatandwhere.com said the following:

> Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
> warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system?

Yep, I had this problem also, I just pressed on the battery inside and
rebooted the PC, and since then the problem has gone.
Maybe you can try this also.

Patrick

Reply to Anonymous

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In New Mexico, another fix seems to hinge upon performing a
rain dance if computer is placed center of a dance circle.

Surge protector solution is classic urban myth. Protector
remains inert - does absolutely nothing - until AC mains
voltage exceeds a threshold or let-through voltage. That
voltage is even printed on every box - typically 330 volts.
Funny thing about numbers. Numbers are avoided to promote
urban myths. Surge protector does nothing until 120 VAC
exceed 300+ volts. Where, pray tell, does a plug-in protector
have anything to do with a low voltage battery recharge?
Rain dance has been proven repeatedly to be a more reliable
solution - if research was performed in real world forums.

If surge protector did not permit battery to recharge, then
surge protector also did not permit computer to power on.
Posted by who@whatandwhere.com is classic urban myth promoted
by junk science reasoning. There also was no looting in Iraq
because Rumsfeld said so. A quote from Rumsfeld is sufficient
to be called proof? Another technically naive poster in some
newsgroup says surge protectors can cause batteries to not
recharge? No wonder some corporate executives must go
overseas to find competent employees. Some Americans, because
they never learned concepts even taught in Junior High School
science, will believe almost anything posted.

who@whatandwhere.com wrote:
> Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
> warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
> happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
> it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
> older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
> suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
> answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
> deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
> not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
> suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
> with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
> the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
> the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
> and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
> brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
> solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
> all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
> replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
> the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
> figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
> solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
> try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
> time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
> one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

Reply to Anonymous

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Thanks w_ tom for your thesis on surge protectors, Dah... I'm not a
believer of Dell's mish mash, I'm just passing on the Dell Forum
discussion results. You might want to also try reading some of those
solutions, including the surge protector solution, explainable or not
as they may seem @
http://forums.us.dell.com/supportf [...] e.id=22620
before engaging your brain again.

Another technically naive poster, Hah...........

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 15:20:11 -0400, w_tom <w_tom1@hotmail.com> wrote:

> In New Mexico, another fix seems to hinge upon performing a
>rain dance if computer is placed center of a dance circle.
>
> Surge protector solution is classic urban myth. Protector
>remains inert - does absolutely nothing - until AC mains
>voltage exceeds a threshold or let-through voltage. That
>voltage is even printed on every box - typically 330 volts.
>Funny thing about numbers. Numbers are avoided to promote
>urban myths. Surge protector does nothing until 120 VAC
>exceed 300+ volts. Where, pray tell, does a plug-in protector
>have anything to do with a low voltage battery recharge?
>Rain dance has been proven repeatedly to be a more reliable
>solution - if research was performed in real world forums.
>
> If surge protector did not permit battery to recharge, then
>surge protector also did not permit computer to power on.
>Posted by who@whatandwhere.com is classic urban myth promoted
>by junk science reasoning. There also was no looting in Iraq
>because Rumsfeld said so. A quote from Rumsfeld is sufficient
>to be called proof? Another technically naive poster in some
>newsgroup says surge protectors can cause batteries to not
>recharge? No wonder some corporate executives must go
>overseas to find competent employees. Some Americans, because
>they never learned concepts even taught in Junior High School
>science, will believe almost anything posted.
>
>who@whatandwhere.com wrote:
>> Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
>> warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
>> happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
>> it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
>> older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
>> suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
>> answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
>> deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
>> not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
>> suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
>> with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
>> the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
>> the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
>> and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
>> brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
>> solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
>> all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
>> replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
>> the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
>> figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
>> solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
>> try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
>> time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
>> one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

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>
> Yep, I had this problem also, I just pressed on the battery inside and
> rebooted the PC, and since then the problem has gone.
> Maybe you can try this also.
>

Same here on my 8250. The message appeared in first few weeks, I pressed
down on the battery, no message for about a year now.

Reply to Ron

Cornputer: Dell Dimension 8300
Problema: Low battery warning...press F1 at bootup.

It's 3 years later..... The fellow with the problem has long since moved on to a healthful and full life...or else gave into his problem and became a hopeless drunk.
After suffering from the same debilitating computer condition for a few weeks and doing much research, finally having said oh to heck and blazes...with my flashlight at the ready, prepared to open the case and seek the bios battery info before taking the lonely ride to Radiddio Shack for a replacement, I tried the humble solution from Dell...and it worked!
I use a Belkin surge protector. Dell says it's some kinda wacky grounding problem. I personally think it's just corrosion, producing voltage funnies that the computer reads as a low battery problem.
So, what the heck. I unplugged my Dell 8300 from one socket and plugged it into another, and several boots later...NO problems!
I'm writing this so that if you happen to have a computer that is acting funny, it absolutely CAN NOT hurt to simply unplug the thing and plug it back in...maybe two or three times. Grounding problems can and does play havoc with sensitive electronic components... A leeeetle bit goes a long way. It's a good lesson for us all!


Message edited by Ralph Thorndyke on 07-14-2007 at 10:49:31 PM
Reply to Ralph Thorndyke

Hiya, If you purchased the goods with a credit card the simple way to sting a big company like Dell is to claim on the credit card insurance. That way you bypass all the gits who once they have your money dont give a hoot! The card company require details of the faulty goods and will refund you with the full amount, then just sit back and wait for Dell to call you.

Good luck

:)

Reply to Anonymous

And to cover people who do that, there is another small cost built into the price of the products and passed on to the thousands or millions of customers, including those using more reasonable methods of problem resolution.

Reply to rockyjohn

[quotemsg=369543,8,288677]Cornputer: Dell Dimension 8300
Problema: Low battery warning...press F1 at bootup.

I just started having this same problem this week. I also have the Dell Dimension 8300 (I'm so glad i thought to type in my problem for a potential solution; you gotta love these forums!).
I don't have an answer yet but i will start by unplugging/replugging.
If that doesn't work, then maybe i'll have to 'press' the battery inside (whatever that even looks like i have no idea).
Thank you so much for all the great feedback and solution ideas!!!
kmfourmy@hotmail.com

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