Dell 8300 Desktops - Anyone getting a system battery volta..

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Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

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A friend has the exact same problem with his 8300. Dell suggested replacing
the battery but he hasn't tried that yet.

<who@whatandwhere.com> wrote in message
news:000u60ddu1fi782d6kl4glp08grcer0cqj@4ax.com...
> Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
> warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
> happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
> it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
> older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
> suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
> answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
> deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
> not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
> suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
> with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
> the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
> the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
> and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
> brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
> solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
> all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
> replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
> the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
> figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
> solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
> try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
> time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
> one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

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In New Mexico, another fix seems to hinge upon performing a
rain dance if computer is placed center of a dance circle.

Surge protector solution is classic urban myth. Protector
remains inert - does absolutely nothing - until AC mains
voltage exceeds a threshold or let-through voltage. That
voltage is even printed on every box - typically 330 volts.
Funny thing about numbers. Numbers are avoided to promote
urban myths. Surge protector does nothing until 120 VAC
exceed 300+ volts. Where, pray tell, does a plug-in protector
have anything to do with a low voltage battery recharge?
Rain dance has been proven repeatedly to be a more reliable
solution - if research was performed in real world forums.

If surge protector did not permit battery to recharge, then
surge protector also did not permit computer to power on.
Posted by who@whatandwhere.com is classic urban myth promoted
by junk science reasoning. There also was no looting in Iraq
because Rumsfeld said so. A quote from Rumsfeld is sufficient
to be called proof? Another technically naive poster in some
newsgroup says surge protectors can cause batteries to not
recharge? No wonder some corporate executives must go
overseas to find competent employees. Some Americans, because
they never learned concepts even taught in Junior High School
science, will believe almost anything posted.

who@whatandwhere.com wrote:
> Is anyone wrestling like I am with a system battery voltage low
> warning at boot from my 4 month old Dell 8300 system? It just started
> happening the other day. From my research in the various Dell forums
> it appears to be a common problem with these systems and even some
> older 8200 systems that Dell won't fully acknowledge. Dell's
> suggestions range from the normal tech support lame bios tweaking
> answers of clearing nvram and system event log , resetting factory
> deafults to even reseating/replacing the system battery. Believe or
> not another fix seems to hinge upon the use of certain surge
> suppressors, including the Belkin ones that Dell sells to you on-line
> with their systems. Apparently certain surge suppressors don't allow
> the system battery to recharge so they suggest connecting directly to
> the wall outlet to correct the problem (What about surge protection
> and warranty then Dell?) or trying a more expensive suppressor (What
> brand and/or what specifications, Dell?). None of the proposed
> solutions works consistently on every system all the time or even at
> all. In some instances the warning just may even go away. The battery
> replacement/reseating and surge suppressor use solutions seem to get
> the most votes of confidence or at least some limited success. Go
> figure...My question to Dell is What gives?. How about a real
> solution, on-site support or a replacement system instead. Dell will
> try anything so they don't have to honor a valid warranty with real
> time service. A new computer shouldn't experience problems like this
> one, especially the new expensive one I purchased from Dell.

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>
> Yep, I had this problem also, I just pressed on the battery inside and
> rebooted the PC, and since then the problem has gone.
> Maybe you can try this also.
>

Same here on my 8250. The message appeared in first few weeks, I pressed
down on the battery, no message for about a year now.

Hiya, If you purchased the goods with a credit card the simple way to sting a big company like Dell is to claim on the credit card insurance. That way you bypass all the gits who once they have your money dont give a hoot! The card company require details of the faulty goods and will refund you with the full amount, then just sit back and wait for Dell to call you.

Good luck

[quotemsg=369543,8,288677]Cornputer: Dell Dimension 8300
Problema: Low battery warning...press F1 at bootup.

I just started having this same problem this week. I also have the Dell Dimension 8300 (I'm so glad i thought to type in my problem for a potential solution; you gotta love these forums!).
I don't have an answer yet but i will start by unplugging/replugging.
If that doesn't work, then maybe i'll have to 'press' the battery inside (whatever that even looks like i have no idea).
Thank you so much for all the great feedback and solution ideas!!!
kmfourmy@hotmail.com

Let's see. Anonymous pulls up an archived thread with a common computer complaint but aimed at Dell. The thread has had no complaints in over 5 years and whose only activity since then is a 2 year old suggestion on how to simply and easil fix the issue yourself because it may not be a Dell issue but a common electrical problem. Oh yes, and that guy 5 years ago fixed the problem by simply pressing on his battery.

Anonymous then describes how the best method for dealing with such issues is to "sting" deal by taking a credit card adjustment instead of just simply fixing it. Does that make sense? Nevermind that battery issues normally arise long after credit card insurance applies. Nevermind that you will still have a paperwork to fill out with you credit card company. And nevermind that any charger or costs you put back on Dell are just charged back out to all us buyers. And never mind that the last two posters fixed their issue simply by pressing on the battery and by changing the power cord to another socket.

So I disagree with rushing to costly alternative suggested by Anonymous.

Then along comes bodigital launching into a patronizing attack on me while making ludicrous statements like there is no such thing as corn syrup. Well bo - you are flat wrong and just showing your own foolishness on both items.

And I know reasonable has more than one meaning - but that has nothing to do with Dell practices but simple language usuage. Linking the two again just shows a bogus argument trying to support your flawed premise. And then you continue with more patronizing - learn learn learn - how childish and lame.

The you ask - "What is the purpose of insurance if not to protect you from being ripped off? " Another misleading item. Well lets see, some insurance is to give family money if you die. Some indurance helps pay for health care costs. Gee you keep making these general statements. So not all insurance is for the purpose you state. I guess you just like whipping off general statements without concern for truth. And while credit card companies do provide one form of insurance against getting ripped off online - that is certianly not an excuse for misusing it. Just like with Dell, the insurance companies have a cost factor built in to reimburse them for their costs, so the misuse you encourage costs us all.

Its not nice to be patronizing. You start by showing you are uncivil and like to put others down. But it only makes you look like a fool when you do it and are wrong, too.