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lhgpoobaa   01-07-2003 at 12:22:04 AM

Seems someone has finally invented one.
Most interesting piece of technology.
Availability limited at the moment.

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slickstaa   01-07-2003 at 03:51:14 AM
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hmm, thats probably a good idea. I've never cracked a core myself through several installations, but I know several people who have and I can see how it would be easy to do so. I wonder how it will effect heat dissapation.

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eden   01-07-2003 at 03:53:47 AM
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Well it does raise temps, however they are sweet little gadgets, I love the hold plated Athlon, so sexy!
However I think it can be improved. P4's HS is able to only raise temps by 1ºC only, all the while protecting. I wish it weren't called HS yet, it's an outright lie really.

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Matisaro   01-13-2003 at 09:57:53 AM
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Heat spreaders suck, core protection is only a valid concern imo for people who have no technical skill, learn to mount a hsf properly damnit! A raise in temp is unacceptable to those who would even consider buying one(ie enthusiasts)

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eden   01-13-2003 at 01:50:35 PM
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You better be returning!

Congrats on the little bundle of joy, you should share the news at the OTHERS forum as well!

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MeTaLrOcKeR   01-13-2003 at 07:43:47 PM
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Welcome back old buddy!

Glad to hear ur ok and congratz on the new child!

As for the IHS......i think there for idiots (no offence) but really...there not needed if u know what ur doing....

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eden   01-13-2003 at 10:54:20 PM
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If the AMD system used Intel's retention mechanism, I'd say off with any IHS, as the HSF will sit tightly and straight, you don't stand a chance to put it the wrong angle. But it'll probably need less pressure than Intel's version.

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Matisaro   01-14-2003 at 08:36:16 AM
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I dunno, ive never had any trouble, I think it takes a sad person to crush a core, just follow the directions it isnt hard people!

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eden   01-14-2003 at 01:47:56 PM
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True enough though, I wonder why some beginners don't at least READ the manual before putting the HSF in a very wrong angle like 45º.

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dweilbacher   01-14-2003 at 09:56:08 PM
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Yes, if you know what you are doing, damaging the CPU should be unlikely.
However, we have moved the CPU from the 500Mhz to 3Gig, but still use a screw driver to mount the HSF. IMO, it is time for an innovated improvement.

Introducting Dr. Thermal HSFs........ Their special clip makes
it impossible to damage the cpu or motherboard. I put mine on with my fingers.
IMO, all HSF should use the Dr. Thermal mounting clip or the 4 holes mounts.

... it's time to put the flat head screw driver away.

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Lonemagi   01-15-2003 at 03:42:42 PM
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I kninda like the swiftech spring / screw mount.. its hard to screw that up

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slvr_phoenix   01-15-2003 at 04:40:46 PM
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While I agree with Matisaro and MeTaLrOcKeR that heat spreaders/IHSs are just for protection of the core from the mindless machinations of the unskilled or ill-fated (sometimes bad luck or temporary carelessness just happens), I cannot say that I have a problem with such devices becoming a permanent part of the CPU.

If used correctly, their actual impact on the thermics is minimal at best at approx. 1 degree C. Compared to that, the number of cores saved from accidents and the inexperienced is priceless. That's my two pence anyway.


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eden   01-15-2003 at 10:25:16 PM
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Yes I do agree on that. In fact IMO, if an IHS is really well made, it would LOWER temps because it is helping to spread heat! Logically the very small Athlon core would benefit, but it isn't currently.

Until then, please improve them before putting them and making our overclock dreams stray gently away!

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roncarney   01-15-2003 at 10:36:43 PM
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Hmmm wonder how much one of those made out of silver would cost....if copper causes only a 1 degree C increase, silver should not cause any discernible increase. I'm sure sucha big chunk of silver would be too $$$ though....

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Lamoni   01-15-2003 at 11:53:08 PM
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Hmmm wonder how much one of those made out of silver would cost....if copper causes only a 1 degree C increase, silver should not cause any discernible increase. I'm sure sucha big chunk of silver would be too $$$ though....


That would be fun to see though. Although I think that moving to Silver would be a bad move even if it was cheaper. The difference in conductivity between silver and copper is very small while the difference in density is significant. instead of copper's 9g/cc, silver weighs 10.5/cc. Copper is heavy enough.

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lhgpoobaa   01-16-2003 at 03:10:26 AM
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We covered this in another forum. replacing the MCX-462+ copper base with silver would look fantastic LOL

Seriously though, I think the heatspreader is a good idea for fumbling numbwhits who cannot follow instructions.


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eden   01-16-2003 at 03:41:47 AM
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When seeing that armor around the core, I have to ask myself, how is it protecting the core! It is still visible, and it is not covered, so how exactly can an HSF be guaranteed not to crush it!
Intel's IHS is still the only one I can clearly deduct it is protected.

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Spitfire_x86   01-16-2003 at 04:52:20 AM
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This thing is heat spreader, not core protector. Intel uses core protector. It will spread heat all over the cpu so that the cpu catches fire.

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