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Anonymous
July 30, 2004 6:44:21 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

A recent reply indicated that this update can only be
installed using a direct Ethernet cable connection. This
is extremely impractical since neither of my computers are
even in the same room as my MN-700 Base Station. What is
the purpose of a critical update if it's virtually
impossible to use? Secondly, I now get a pop-up screen
about the critical update everytime I turn on my computer
even though I can't use it. How do I get rid of this
annoyance? When will there be a critical update that can
be used wirelessly?
July 31, 2004 12:06:31 AM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

The reason you don't want to install a firmware update via wireless is
because sometimes the signal will drop. This can kill the basestation.

A wired connection doesn't have this problem. THat is why you have to
install the firmware on a wired connection.

You can just temporarily move the MN-700 next to one of the computers
after downloading the update & install it that way.

Coloradken wrote:

> A recent reply indicated that this update can only be
> installed using a direct Ethernet cable connection. This
> is extremely impractical since neither of my computers are
> even in the same room as my MN-700 Base Station. What is
> the purpose of a critical update if it's virtually
> impossible to use? Secondly, I now get a pop-up screen
> about the critical update everytime I turn on my computer
> even though I can't use it. How do I get rid of this
> annoyance? When will there be a critical update that can
> be used wirelessly?
July 31, 2004 3:34:16 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

Again, Microsoft if you're listening -- would it be so
hard to tell me this before I start updating? Why can
this not be expressed on the
http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/BroadbandNetworking/A...
Update2/CheckUpdates.asp page?


>-----Original Message-----
>The reason you don't want to install a firmware update
via wireless is
>because sometimes the signal will drop. This can kill
the basestation.
>
>A wired connection doesn't have this problem. THat is
why you have to
>install the firmware on a wired connection.
>
>You can just temporarily move the MN-700 next to one of
the computers
>after downloading the update & install it that way.
>
>Coloradken wrote:
>
>> A recent reply indicated that this update can only be
>> installed using a direct Ethernet cable connection.
This
>> is extremely impractical since neither of my computers
are
>> even in the same room as my MN-700 Base Station. What
is
>> the purpose of a critical update if it's virtually
>> impossible to use? Secondly, I now get a pop-up screen
>> about the critical update everytime I turn on my
computer
>> even though I can't use it. How do I get rid of this
>> annoyance? When will there be a critical update that
can
>> be used wirelessly?
>
>.
>
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July 31, 2004 9:37:00 PM

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So you want Microsoft to post all 5 million different possible causes of
problems with a wireless connection in the update page.

I may be exaggerating a bit, but that sounds like the only thing that
would make you happy.

That places to much information on one page & the vast majority of
people will ignore it.

Jay wrote:

> Again, Microsoft if you're listening -- would it be so
> hard to tell me this before I start updating? Why can
> this not be expressed on the
> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/BroadbandNetworking/A...
> Update2/CheckUpdates.asp page?
>
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>The reason you don't want to install a firmware update
>
> via wireless is
>
>>because sometimes the signal will drop. This can kill
>
> the basestation.
>
>>A wired connection doesn't have this problem. THat is
>
> why you have to
>
>>install the firmware on a wired connection.
>>
>>You can just temporarily move the MN-700 next to one of
>
> the computers
>
>>after downloading the update & install it that way.
>>
>>Coloradken wrote:
>>
>>
>>>A recent reply indicated that this update can only be
>>>installed using a direct Ethernet cable connection.
>
> This
>
>>>is extremely impractical since neither of my computers
>
> are
>
>>>even in the same room as my MN-700 Base Station. What
>
> is
>
>>>the purpose of a critical update if it's virtually
>>>impossible to use? Secondly, I now get a pop-up screen
>>>about the critical update everytime I turn on my
>
> computer
>
>>>even though I can't use it. How do I get rid of this
>>>annoyance? When will there be a critical update that
>
> can
>
>>>be used wirelessly?
>>
>>.
>>
Anonymous
August 1, 2004 4:10:24 PM

Archived from groups: microsoft.public.broadbandnet.hardware (More info?)

joker wrote:
> The reason you don't want to install a firmware update via wireless is
> because sometimes the signal will drop. This can kill the
> basestation.
>
> A wired connection doesn't have this problem. THat is why you have to
> install the firmware on a wired connection.
>
> You can just temporarily move the MN-700 next to one of the computers
> after downloading the update & install it that way.
>
> Coloradken wrote:
>
>> A recent reply indicated that this update can only be
>> installed using a direct Ethernet cable connection. This
>> is extremely impractical since neither of my computers are
>> even in the same room as my MN-700 Base Station. What is
>> the purpose of a critical update if it's virtually
>> impossible to use? Secondly, I now get a pop-up screen
>> about the critical update everytime I turn on my computer
>> even though I can't use it. How do I get rid of this
>> annoyance? When will there be a critical update that can
>> be used wirelessly?

Unplug your MN-700(from wall, from cable modem, etc.), carry it to
one of your computers, install wired NIC, hook up MN-700, update MN-700. Put
system
back the way it was. Reconfigure if necessary.

By the way, if you are networking desktops, you should be using
wired connections. Wired connections are superior in almost every way
(security, speed, reliability, etc.) except for portability. Desktops
normally don't
need to be portable. The only thing you save with wireless connections is
setup trouble and cost, which is usually insignificant in the long run.

Also: When will there be a critical update that can be installed
wirelessly?

The smart money is on never.

1. We will probably never see another firmware update for the MN-700, since
Microsoft doesn't make or sell them any more.

2. Microsoft would be nuts to write an update so that you could install it
that way. The wireless connection is too unreliable for such administrative
tasks.
This is in addition to any real, technical reasons that you wouldn't
want to do it that way. Like that you couldn't update the firmware without
dropping
the wireless connection at some point any way.

Hope this helps.

Dick Kistler
Anonymous
August 1, 2004 4:14:25 PM

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Jay wrote:
> Again, Microsoft if you're listening -- would it be so
> hard to tell me this before I start updating? Why can
> this not be expressed on the
> http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/BroadbandNetworking/A...
> Update2/CheckUpdates.asp page?
>

Be honest, would Microsoft telling you ahead of time have made any
difference?

Nothing otherwise would have changed, and you have found out anyway.

Maybe you would not have tried without installing a NIC, but the basestation
was working anyhow, so you are no worse off.

Dick
August 1, 2004 8:54:12 PM

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Dick Kistler wrote:

> joker wrote:
>
>>The reason you don't want to install a firmware update via wireless is
>>because sometimes the signal will drop. This can kill the
>>basestation.
>>
>>A wired connection doesn't have this problem. THat is why you have to
>>install the firmware on a wired connection.
>>
>>You can just temporarily move the MN-700 next to one of the computers
>>after downloading the update & install it that way.
>>
>>Coloradken wrote:
>>
>>
>>>A recent reply indicated that this update can only be
>>>installed using a direct Ethernet cable connection. This
>>>is extremely impractical since neither of my computers are
>>>even in the same room as my MN-700 Base Station. What is
>>>the purpose of a critical update if it's virtually
>>>impossible to use? Secondly, I now get a pop-up screen
>>>about the critical update everytime I turn on my computer
>>>even though I can't use it. How do I get rid of this
>>>annoyance? When will there be a critical update that can
>>>be used wirelessly?
>
>
> Unplug your MN-700(from wall, from cable modem, etc.), carry it to
> one of your computers, install wired NIC, hook up MN-700, update MN-700. Put
> system
> back the way it was. Reconfigure if necessary.
>
> By the way, if you are networking desktops, you should be using
> wired connections. Wired connections are superior in almost every way
> (security, speed, reliability, etc.) except for portability. Desktops
> normally don't
> need to be portable. The only thing you save with wireless connections is
> setup trouble and cost, which is usually insignificant in the long run.
>
> Also: When will there be a critical update that can be installed
> wirelessly?
>
> The smart money is on never.

You can install the manual update on the MN-500 via wireless at least on
the 1.8.003 firmware & earlier. Once again Microsoft took the option
away because they had units damaged by doing that. Thus they made the
router more ID10T resistant, as you can never make a product 100% ID10T
proof.

>
> 1. We will probably never see another firmware update for the MN-700, since
> Microsoft doesn't make or sell them any more.
>
> 2. Microsoft would be nuts to write an update so that you could install it
> that way. The wireless connection is too unreliable for such administrative
> tasks.
> This is in addition to any real, technical reasons that you wouldn't
> want to do it that way. Like that you couldn't update the firmware without
> dropping
> the wireless connection at some point any way.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Dick Kistler
>
>
Anonymous
August 2, 2004 1:02:28 AM

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>
> You can install the manual update on the MN-500 via wireless at least
> on the 1.8.003 firmware & earlier. Once again Microsoft took the
> option away because they had units damaged by doing that. Thus they
> made the router more ID10T resistant, as you can never make a
> product 100% ID10T proof.
>
Amen to that.

Dick
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