Odd, odd problem

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Ok, XPSP2 here, Athlon2400, 1GB memory, all the hardware checks out.

Two problems:

1. About a week ago, my computer started having a strange issue where
the CPU would peg at 100% on a program launch and drag the machine to a
halt. Once the program was up and running, everything was back to
normal. Keep in mind that this is NOT just a "slow computer" - it was
brand-new behavior that started for no reason I could discern (I didn't
make any hardware or software changes before the problem cropped up).
I've run a couple of antivirus programs and adware cleaners and they've
found nothing. I've used utilities from sysinternals.com to look at
what's going on and I can't see anything strange. But this is
history...

2. A couple of days ago, the problem mutated. Now, I'm having
problems simply launching applications. If I attempt to launch an
application, it will show up in Task Manager (but not in the UI), but
will almost always stop loading at ~5MB in memory (usually from about
4.7 to 5.7MB). Every once in a while, the program will start without a
hitch, but it's rare. The one somewhat (but not entirely) consistent
thing I've been able to find is that if I kill another program, I can
then start the program I was trying to start (again, I have 1GB of RAM
in this machine and plenty free, so it's not a memory problem).
Additionally, I can "run as" and successfully start a program using
another account, though this is obviously not an ideal solution.
Finally, I've tried everything from logging in under a clean account to
killing off all but system processes, and the issue still crops up. I
can't say that this problem is tied to the launch-lock problem
described in (1) above, but it would be a coincidence if it was
entirely separate.

This is a strange problem, because the .exe files are obviously still
executing (I've tried the .exe reg patch), but they're getting hung up
on launch.

Appreciate any guidance.
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  1. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    <crawford.long@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1123177524.008991.9420@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > Ok, XPSP2 here, Athlon2400, 1GB memory, all the hardware checks out.
    >
    > Two problems:
    >
    > 1. About a week ago, my computer started having a strange issue where
    > the CPU would peg at 100% on a program launch and drag the machine to a
    > halt. Once the program was up and running, everything was back to
    > normal. Keep in mind that this is NOT just a "slow computer" - it was
    > brand-new behavior that started for no reason I could discern (I didn't
    > make any hardware or software changes before the problem cropped up).
    > I've run a couple of antivirus programs and adware cleaners and they've
    > found nothing. I've used utilities from sysinternals.com to look at
    > what's going on and I can't see anything strange. But this is
    > history...
    >
    > 2. A couple of days ago, the problem mutated. Now, I'm having
    > problems simply launching applications. If I attempt to launch an
    > application, it will show up in Task Manager (but not in the UI), but
    > will almost always stop loading at ~5MB in memory (usually from about
    > 4.7 to 5.7MB). Every once in a while, the program will start without a
    > hitch, but it's rare. The one somewhat (but not entirely) consistent
    > thing I've been able to find is that if I kill another program, I can
    > then start the program I was trying to start (again, I have 1GB of RAM
    > in this machine and plenty free, so it's not a memory problem).
    > Additionally, I can "run as" and successfully start a program using
    > another account, though this is obviously not an ideal solution.
    > Finally, I've tried everything from logging in under a clean account to
    > killing off all but system processes, and the issue still crops up. I
    > can't say that this problem is tied to the launch-lock problem
    > described in (1) above, but it would be a coincidence if it was
    > entirely separate.
    >
    > This is a strange problem, because the .exe files are obviously still
    > executing (I've tried the .exe reg patch), but they're getting hung up
    > on launch.
    >
    > Appreciate any guidance.

    You don't happen to use Panda anti-virus do you?

    Regardless, reboot then disable your real-time virus scanner and try
    launching your problem applications. I have seen this problem once before,
    but it was not persistent.

    Good Luck,

    Carl
  2. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    I don't. I've tried rebooting with all AV (and personal firewalls,
    etc.) uninstalled. No dice.

    I thought it might be Kerio Personal Firewall's malware execution thing
    (sorry, not looking at the computer right now, but apparently Kerio
    "checks out" executables before they run), but I uninstalled KPF and
    the problem persisted.

    I've fixed more computer problems from the simple to the truly complex,
    but this one has be befuddled. :)
  3. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    I've run four different spyware checkers.
  4. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    For some strange reason, I had my pagefile set at 768MB rather than
    system managed. I thought that might be the issue (though, good god,
    768MB should be plenty), so I set it back to system-managed *after* the
    problem arose.

    As far as I can tell, it didn't make a difference (though my pagefile
    is now 1.5GB, which seems excessive to me).
  5. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    You need to run several different spyware checkers. Not everyone finds
    everything! There are even some spyware checkers that are spyware
    themselves (ie." eAcceleration).

    Use:

    AD Aware SE
    Spybot: Search and Destroy
    CWShredder
    Microsoft AntiSpyware Beta

    CA Pest Patrol
    Webroot Spy Sweeprer -- These last two you need to buy!


    <crawford.long@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1123184346.652106.257080@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    >I don't. I've tried rebooting with all AV (and personal firewalls,
    > etc.) uninstalled. No dice.
    >
    > I thought it might be Kerio Personal Firewall's malware execution thing
    > (sorry, not looking at the computer right now, but apparently Kerio
    > "checks out" executables before they run), but I uninstalled KPF and
    > the problem persisted.
    >
    > I've fixed more computer problems from the simple to the truly complex,
    > but this one has be befuddled. :)
    >
  6. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Pagefile?
    <crawford.long@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1123177524.008991.9420@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > Ok, XPSP2 here, Athlon2400, 1GB memory, all the hardware checks out.
    >
    > Two problems:
    >
    > 1. About a week ago, my computer started having a strange issue where
    > the CPU would peg at 100% on a program launch and drag the machine to a
    > halt. Once the program was up and running, everything was back to
    > normal. Keep in mind that this is NOT just a "slow computer" - it was
    > brand-new behavior that started for no reason I could discern (I didn't
    > make any hardware or software changes before the problem cropped up).
    > I've run a couple of antivirus programs and adware cleaners and they've
    > found nothing. I've used utilities from sysinternals.com to look at
    > what's going on and I can't see anything strange. But this is
    > history...
    >
    > 2. A couple of days ago, the problem mutated. Now, I'm having
    > problems simply launching applications. If I attempt to launch an
    > application, it will show up in Task Manager (but not in the UI), but
    > will almost always stop loading at ~5MB in memory (usually from about
    > 4.7 to 5.7MB). Every once in a while, the program will start without a
    > hitch, but it's rare. The one somewhat (but not entirely) consistent
    > thing I've been able to find is that if I kill another program, I can
    > then start the program I was trying to start (again, I have 1GB of RAM
    > in this machine and plenty free, so it's not a memory problem).
    > Additionally, I can "run as" and successfully start a program using
    > another account, though this is obviously not an ideal solution.
    > Finally, I've tried everything from logging in under a clean account to
    > killing off all but system processes, and the issue still crops up. I
    > can't say that this problem is tied to the launch-lock problem
    > described in (1) above, but it would be a coincidence if it was
    > entirely separate.
    >
    > This is a strange problem, because the .exe files are obviously still
    > executing (I've tried the .exe reg patch), but they're getting hung up
    > on launch.
    >
    > Appreciate any guidance.
    >
  7. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    As an aside, this article is interesting and explains virtual memory in
    Windows. http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpvm.php
    Doesn't solve your problem though.

    <crawford.long@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1123193964.299231.203410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > For some strange reason, I had my pagefile set at 768MB rather than
    > system managed. I thought that might be the issue (though, good god,
    > 768MB should be plenty), so I set it back to system-managed *after* the
    > problem arose.
    >
    > As far as I can tell, it didn't make a difference (though my pagefile
    > is now 1.5GB, which seems excessive to me).
    >
  8. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    No mapped drives.

    I thought it might be some weird network issue, but now I'm not so
    sure. There's no CPU activity, no drive activity, nothing (other than
    whatever else is going on at the time), after the app gets to ~5MB in
    memory. It just stops loading.

    I can load Notepad, PSPad, and Thunderbird consistently. MS Word has
    come up every time I've tried. Firefox, anything with an installer,
    Opera, IE, iTunes, 7-zip, BeyondTV (PVR app), ObjectDock, and mmc.exe
    (for example; this is just a short list of what I've tried) all fail
    consistently.
  9. Archived from groups: microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (More info?)

    Do you have any mapped drives that are offline?

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    <crawford.long@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1123177524.008991.9420@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
    > Ok, XPSP2 here, Athlon2400, 1GB memory, all the hardware checks out.
    >
    > Two problems:
    >
    > 1. About a week ago, my computer started having a strange issue where
    > the CPU would peg at 100% on a program launch and drag the machine to a
    > halt. Once the program was up and running, everything was back to
    > normal. Keep in mind that this is NOT just a "slow computer" - it was
    > brand-new behavior that started for no reason I could discern (I didn't
    > make any hardware or software changes before the problem cropped up).
    > I've run a couple of antivirus programs and adware cleaners and they've
    > found nothing. I've used utilities from sysinternals.com to look at
    > what's going on and I can't see anything strange. But this is
    > history...
    >
    > 2. A couple of days ago, the problem mutated. Now, I'm having
    > problems simply launching applications. If I attempt to launch an
    > application, it will show up in Task Manager (but not in the UI), but
    > will almost always stop loading at ~5MB in memory (usually from about
    > 4.7 to 5.7MB). Every once in a while, the program will start without a
    > hitch, but it's rare. The one somewhat (but not entirely) consistent
    > thing I've been able to find is that if I kill another program, I can
    > then start the program I was trying to start (again, I have 1GB of RAM
    > in this machine and plenty free, so it's not a memory problem).
    > Additionally, I can "run as" and successfully start a program using
    > another account, though this is obviously not an ideal solution.
    > Finally, I've tried everything from logging in under a clean account to
    > killing off all but system processes, and the issue still crops up. I
    > can't say that this problem is tied to the launch-lock problem
    > described in (1) above, but it would be a coincidence if it was
    > entirely separate.
    >
    > This is a strange problem, because the .exe files are obviously still
    > executing (I've tried the .exe reg patch), but they're getting hung up
    > on launch.
    >
    > Appreciate any guidance.
    >
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