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January 21, 2003 1:15:03 AM

I pieced together my own computer a few years back and have been upgrading over time, joined the Air Force in June just now getting a chance to get back on my computer and I have no idea whats going on with hardware now. Currently got an Abit BH6 with a 633 celeron at 950, I think my CPU might be getting toasted because my computers been acting really funky(likes to just shutdown or reboot), so I thought hey a 2ghz would be nice, then I saw the bus speeds and thought my PC100 ram probably wouldnt work, then someome else mentioned that Id need a new motherboard too, can anyone help me with what to get? Not sure what motherboard to get, CPU is the easiest part, but whats up with pricewatch listing a socket 478 and others dont? whats up with the ram now? I see up to PC150 then big numbers like 1600, 2400, etc... I think Id like to go Intel, price is also important, just an E-3 with a family too.

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January 21, 2003 1:50:49 AM

AMD is the way to go for you. Prices listed are Newegg price

CPU: Athlon XP 2100+ (retail) ~$100
Mobo: ASUS A7N8X Deluxe/ASUS A7N8X/MSI K7N2-L $148/$125/$105
RAM: 2 stick x 256 MB ingston PC2700 CL2.5 $128

You are getting a killer combo for this ammount of money. With Intel, it's impossible.

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January 21, 2003 1:53:19 AM

LOL, I think it's in the Memory forum, but anyway, current boards use DDR SDRAM and RAMBUS. Both are Double Data Rate.

PC800= Rambus 400MHz*2
PC1066= Rambus 533MHz*2
PC1600= DDR200= 100MHz*2
PC2100= DDR266= 133MHz*2
PC2400= DDR300= 150MHz*2
PC2700= DDR333= 166MHz*2
PC3000= DDR366= 183MHz*2
PC3200= DDR400= 200MHz*2
PC3500= DDR433= 216MHz*2
RIMM4200= 1 pair PC1066 on a double wide module

Whew. OK, DDR memory went to bandwidth for the model numbers, hence the huge numbers. Only a few of these are "standard"
PC1600=outdated
PC2100=cheap
PC2700=midpriced
PC3200=top end

The fastest Intel board still use the i850E chipet and RAMBUS. AMD boards have used DDR for a long time, and most midpriced Intel boards do too.

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January 21, 2003 5:40:15 AM

Thank you for your service in the armed forces.

Just one GI Brat's opinion. And yes, we have a BH6 in the family. Dad was an E5 and E6.

IF I were you, I would wait another payday or two so that you can invest a bit more now to be able to expand at will later. You message shows a desire to overclock. That was considered in my reply. IMO. Gigabyte has taken the lead away from Abit. Others will suggest ASUS and do so with justification.

Look at the <A HREF="http://www.giga-byte.com/products/8pe667ultra.htm" target="_new"> Gigabyte GA-8PE668 Ultra</A>. I just got another one which is a revised board. It now has plug-in slots for more USB 2.0 ports ... potentially 10 USB2 connections without a hub. The board has built into it many features that PCI slots handle in your current motherboard and do it reasonablly well. I only use the Video Card of choice and a 56k Faxmodem. The other PCI slots are unused. There are no ISA slots.
You will not be able to use your current video card unless it is a PCI sloted card. The AGP 4x is a different standard than the AGP 2x on your current motherboard. Do NOT place your current AGP video card in this mother board. It will be damaged.
The board has a cap of PC2700 memory -- 133FSB in your terms. There is a multiplier setting 2.5 which makes the memory 333 FSB operationally. The board has potential for future gowth when you are ready.

Get the P4 2.4gig 533 CPU. It is socket 478. This will drive the motherboard to a faster -- FSB 133 instead of FSB 100 set by the P4 2.0. Relatively speaking ... It's well worth the extra money. I started with a P4 1.8 and now use the P4 2.4 533. 533 is determined by a multiplier of 4.

<A HREF="http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/messageview.cfm?catid=1..." target="_new">Check here for an education on PC memory and a way to get PC2700 memory for a PC2100 price.</A> This link has links in the first message worth studying.

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Your monitor, floppy drive and CDROM / CDRW / DVD will be useable.

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January 21, 2003 7:46:54 PM

I'd been overclocking since the beginning with my computer but I dont think Id really bother doing that with a new one, maybe a little but not really push it. I bought a GeForce3 last year thats AGP and I definetly want to keep that, Ill check that link, still not understanding bus speeds and what not with the current cpu/ram
January 22, 2003 2:28:49 AM

Double check the AGP specs of the GeForce3 card. Many P4 boards will not work with AGP2X including the board that I recommended. I had to replace my AGP2X board when I upgraded last yesr. There is a difference in voltages between AGP2X and AGP4X

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