P4 or AMD?

qpbt · Jan 22, 2003

Intel pentium - stability, and quality
AMD - perf and overclock

tell me more

i might go for AMD 2200++ or p42.4 533mhz -bad mistake

MMmmmmmmm, this is my pc quote

p4 2.4 533mhz
ati radeon 9500pro 128mb - ok?
ddr ram 512mb pc2700 - still thinkin' on brand and of coz' noway Corsair unless in my budget range $$$$?
asus p4s8x but crash with ati - dang - comment? and recommen?
Edited by qpbt on 01/21/03 10:24 PM.

scamtrOn · Jan 22, 2003

AMD offers equal quality…. The features on the cpu are not the same, but there is no quality problems with an AMD possessor. If you want to overclock you should go for intel tho. And its 533 MHz. both cpus are stable in right conditions… if you are worried about stability, you should look into the chipset more carefully and the amount of ram and brand. Also how many sticks of ram you use will make a difference in the stability.

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scamtrOn · Jan 22, 2003

btw i'm talking about high speed ddr ram. i'm not sure about rdram tho...

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vegandago · Jan 22, 2003

who told you that amd overclocks better than intel??? that simply isn't true... possibly the other way around.

anyway, if you want stability you cannot beat an Intel/Intel chipset combo... they are usually lacking in performance by a marginal amount but like i said... if you want stability there is no better option.

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LancerEvolution7 · Jan 22, 2003

1) Intel and AMD chips are both VERY stable and there is no quality issues with either of them.
2) AMD has value, most of their chips give a better performance/price ratio. They overclock, but not as well as Intel's P4
3) Intel chips offer better overclocking
4) Motherboards using Intel's newest ddr chipset are generally more expensive than Nforce2 boards

Edited by lancerevolution7 on 01/22/03 00:08 AM.

scamtrOn · Jan 22, 2003

umm.... at first i thought this is a joke, i then i realized you are serious. Well… dood… read my post a bit more carefully and you might find something like “if you want to overclock you should go for intel tho”…. i think its in English... if not let me know so i can edit my post

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qpbt · Jan 22, 2003

i am lazy to re-edit all my post all over again

i am asking for opinion on my new quote pc

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scamtrOn · Jan 22, 2003

dood... you know... if you tell us how much you want to spend, we can give you some awesome system configurations for your price. i think it works best that way and you can edit the stuff you want. that way you have some thing to go by

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qpbt · Jan 22, 2003

mmmmmmm

something like USD800 for vga card, processor and mboard

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Spitfire_x86 · Jan 22, 2003

Get these components:

Athlon XP 2600+ (333 MHz FSB) or Athlon XP 2400+
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe
Radeon 9500 Pro BBA

AXP 2400+ will be as fast as P4 2.53 GHz paired with PC2700 DDR.

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gazzrawly · Jan 22, 2003

Most AMD, especially the new AMD chips r poop for overclocking but r much better than P4 for games. Take this.... A 2200XP performs better than a P4 2.4ghz on 3d mark with every 3d card on the market atm. The price/performance is insainly different...For the price of a P4 2.4ghz, u can buy close to 2 Athlon 2200XP CPU's!! Y GO FOR INTEL? Sure the Pentium's can overclock by as much as 45~% their stock speed, but y overclock when u have a cheap AMD anyway? Ur budget is also kept lower allowing u to maybe get that ram u wanted

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Civilized · Jan 22, 2003

A Simple statement would be get either and you will be happy...a noticable performance difference will not be present....I would say if you get an nforce make sure you get a tbred B so you can change mult etc if you plan to overclock...you cant beat the nforce2 combo for the money

jammydodger · Jan 22, 2003

How about:

P4 2.4 (533)
Gigabyte GA-8INXP(Intel E7205)
2x256 PC2700 DDR
Radeon 9500/Ge-Force4 Ti4200

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jammydodger · Jan 22, 2003

Any AMD CPUs based on the Tbred B core are much better overclockers than those with the Tbred A or palomino cores. Id def go 4 a P4 if you plan to overclock tho, I got my P4 2.4 to 2.7Ghz with the retail HSF no prob and i think the limiting factor is my northbridge at the mo not the CPU. I dont think athlons overclock this far.

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qpbt · Jan 23, 2003

Athlon XP 2600+ (333 MHz FSB) price?
or Athlon XP 2400+ price?
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe <-- i am buyin this one thou
Radeon 9500 Pro Evil Commando 2 or Gigabyte <-- brand i have here!

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scamtrOn · Jan 23, 2003

2400+ is about $175 USD OEM
2600+ is about $270 USD OEM

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noko · Jan 23, 2003

I bought a XP1700 which turned out to be a TBred B core. Default of 1.43ghz(XP1700) overclocks to 2.15ghz (XP2700+), ahmmm a 50% overclock. Not bad because I only paid $51

. For low end cpu's I would say AMD has it in the bag for overclockability.

Flipphone · Jan 23, 2003

spits right that would be a great comp at a good price point.

Stormfury · Jan 23, 2003

If you go for AMD wait till the Barton comes out so the other cpu's will drop a bit. The same for graphics cards. When does the Barton/FX come out? I can never remember. Can't wait till the FX comes out so the 9700 will drop a bit in price.

qpbt · Jan 23, 2003

i am waiting for ndivia nv dx9.0 to come out and barton..i am not buying now thou till those new tech make old prod drop

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qpbt · Jan 23, 2003

btw what is the reasonable celcius for an overclocked cpu with some additional fans (volcano 7+) goes?

35-45*c?

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LtBlue14 · Jan 23, 2003

or up to 55*C, which is still not too high but probably a good ceiling to set (because, well, who wants to get to TOO high?)
an athlon is gonna run hotter than a P4

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noko · Jan 23, 2003

My TBred is running at 33C full load at 1.94ghz. Thermaltake 7cu+

phial · Jan 23, 2003

if your going to spend the extra $$$ for a 2.53ghz P4, then use that money to get a athlonXP 2600 running a 333 FSB.
the performance increase from this is definately noticable, and worth it. but considerably more expensive for AMD. comparable to INTEL prices

personally i would go with AMD. for less money, you can get a VERY comparable processor (faster than a same speed P4 in some areas, not quite so in others). pair that with 333mhz DDR ram at CAS2 (cheaper than RDRam, and not quite as fast, but negligible performance difference) and a nForce2 mobo, and you got a platform that a P4 will be hard pressed to beat

and uyoull have a couple hundred extra dollars to spend on extra ram, or a better video card =D

P4 or AMD?

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