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January 22, 2003 1:03:12 AM

Intel pentium - stability, and quality
AMD - perf and overclock


tell me more

i might go for AMD 2200++ or p42.4 533mhz -bad mistake


MMmmmmmmm, this is my pc quote


p4 2.4 533mhz
ati radeon 9500pro 128mb - ok?
ddr ram 512mb pc2700 - still thinkin' on brand and of coz' noway Corsair unless in my budget range $$$$?
asus p4s8x but crash with ati - dang - comment? and recommen?
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by qpbt on 01/21/03 10:24 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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January 22, 2003 1:20:05 AM

AMD offers equal quality…. The features on the cpu are not the same, but there is no quality problems with an AMD possessor. If you want to overclock you should go for intel tho. And its 533 MHz. both cpus are stable in right conditions… if you are worried about stability, you should look into the chipset more carefully and the amount of ram and brand. Also how many sticks of ram you use will make a difference in the stability.

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January 22, 2003 1:22:26 AM

btw i'm talking about high speed ddr ram. i'm not sure about rdram tho...

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January 22, 2003 1:30:04 AM

who told you that amd overclocks better than intel??? that simply isn't true... possibly the other way around.

anyway, if you want stability you cannot beat an Intel/Intel chipset combo... they are usually lacking in performance by a marginal amount but like i said... if you want stability there is no better option.

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January 22, 2003 1:40:51 AM

1) Intel and AMD chips are both VERY stable and there is no quality issues with either of them.
2) AMD has value, most of their chips give a better performance/price ratio. They overclock, but not as well as Intel's P4
3) Intel chips offer better overclocking
4) Motherboards using Intel's newest ddr chipset are generally more expensive than Nforce2 boards

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by lancerevolution7 on 01/22/03 00:08 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
January 22, 2003 1:44:54 AM

umm.... at first i thought this is a joke, i then i realized you are serious. Well… dood… read my post a bit more carefully and you might find something like “if you want to overclock you should go for intel tho”…. i think its in English... if not let me know so i can edit my post

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January 22, 2003 2:01:14 AM

i am lazy to re-edit all my post all over again

i am asking for opinion on my new quote pc


The Myth Has Fall and The Evil Just Arrise
January 22, 2003 2:18:21 AM

dood... you know... if you tell us how much you want to spend, we can give you some awesome system configurations for your price. i think it works best that way and you can edit the stuff you want. that way you have some thing to go by

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January 22, 2003 6:41:52 AM

mmmmmmm

something like USD800 for vga card, processor and mboard


The Myth Has Fall and The Evil Just Arrise
January 22, 2003 6:15:22 PM

Most AMD, especially the new AMD chips r poop for overclocking but r much better than P4 for games. Take this.... A 2200XP performs better than a P4 2.4ghz on 3d mark with every 3d card on the market atm. The price/performance is insainly different...For the price of a P4 2.4ghz, u can buy close to 2 Athlon 2200XP CPU's!! Y GO FOR INTEL? Sure the Pentium's can overclock by as much as 45~% their stock speed, but y overclock when u have a cheap AMD anyway? Ur budget is also kept lower allowing u to maybe get that ram u wanted ;) 

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January 22, 2003 7:22:34 PM

A Simple statement would be get either and you will be happy...a noticable performance difference will not be present....I would say if you get an nforce make sure you get a tbred B so you can change mult etc if you plan to overclock...you cant beat the nforce2 combo for the money
January 22, 2003 8:29:00 PM

How about:

P4 2.4 (533)
Gigabyte GA-8INXP(Intel E7205)
2x256 PC2700 DDR
Radeon 9500/Ge-Force4 Ti4200


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January 22, 2003 8:34:54 PM

Any AMD CPUs based on the Tbred B core are much better overclockers than those with the Tbred A or palomino cores. Id def go 4 a P4 if you plan to overclock tho, I got my P4 2.4 to 2.7Ghz with the retail HSF no prob and i think the limiting factor is my northbridge at the mo not the CPU. I dont think athlons overclock this far.

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January 22, 2003 10:14:40 PM

Athlon XP 2600+ (333 MHz FSB) price?
or Athlon XP 2400+ price?
ASUS A7N8X Deluxe <-- i am buyin this one thou
Radeon 9500 Pro Evil Commando 2 or Gigabyte <-- brand i have here!




The Myth Has Fall and The Evil Just Arrise
January 22, 2003 10:21:05 PM

2400+ is about $175 USD OEM
2600+ is about $270 USD OEM

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January 22, 2003 11:24:34 PM

I bought a XP1700 which turned out to be a TBred B core. Default of 1.43ghz(XP1700) overclocks to 2.15ghz (XP2700+), ahmmm a 50% overclock. Not bad because I only paid $51 :smile: . For low end cpu's I would say AMD has it in the bag for overclockability.
January 22, 2003 11:41:13 PM

spits right that would be a great comp at a good price point.
January 22, 2003 11:55:33 PM

If you go for AMD wait till the Barton comes out so the other cpu's will drop a bit. The same for graphics cards. When does the Barton/FX come out? I can never remember. Can't wait till the FX comes out so the 9700 will drop a bit in price.
January 23, 2003 1:09:45 AM

i am waiting for ndivia nv dx9.0 to come out and barton..i am not buying now thou till those new tech make old prod drop


The Myth Has Fall and The Evil Just Arrise
January 23, 2003 1:32:33 AM

btw what is the reasonable celcius for an overclocked cpu with some additional fans (volcano 7+) goes?

35-45*c?


The Myth Has Fall and The Evil Just Arrise
January 23, 2003 2:02:33 AM

or up to 55*C, which is still not too high but probably a good ceiling to set (because, well, who wants to get to TOO high?)
an athlon is gonna run hotter than a P4

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January 23, 2003 2:22:25 AM

My TBred is running at 33C full load at 1.94ghz. Thermaltake 7cu+
January 23, 2003 2:34:36 PM

if your going to spend the extra $$$ for a 2.53ghz P4, then use that money to get a athlonXP 2600 running a 333 FSB.
the performance increase from this is definately noticable, and worth it. but considerably more expensive for AMD. comparable to INTEL prices

personally i would go with AMD. for less money, you can get a VERY comparable processor (faster than a same speed P4 in some areas, not quite so in others). pair that with 333mhz DDR ram at CAS2 (cheaper than RDRam, and not quite as fast, but negligible performance difference) and a nForce2 mobo, and you got a platform that a P4 will be hard pressed to beat

and uyoull have a couple hundred extra dollars to spend on extra ram, or a better video card =D
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