Thunderbird, Thoroughbred & Palamino

[frewOFstew]

Can anyone explain some of the differences among these 3 socket A processors; as well as some of the major restrictions (if any)...regarding motherboards (older and current), OS type, etc?

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by frewOFstew on 01/24/03 03:26 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[GearJammer2513]

Well, as I know them, the Thunderbird is a type of Amd Duron processor, and Thoroughbred and Palamino refer to the type of core on the Atholon XP xxxx+ models. Thoroughbred (aka T-bred) is the new .13 micron process (smaller die) and allows the newer AXP cpu's to go faster due to shorter paths in the cpu.

I'm sure someone here with more knowledge than I can go into better detail.

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[Gangster]

The Thunderbird has nothing to do with the AMD Duron. The first models of the Thunderbird supported 100MHz FSB, and the "new" models supported 133MHz FSB. Durons only support 100MHz FSB. Thunderbird also has a larger cache than the Duron, and the top model runs at 1,4GHz instead of the 1,3GHz of the Duron family.

The Palomino (Early models of Athlon XP) are like upgraded versions of the Thunderbird, still on 133MHz FSB, but with improved specs.

The T-Bred is a completely new processor, able to run at higher FSB and overall speed, than the Palomino.

 

[GearJammer2513]

Like I said: Someone here has more knowledge than I. Thanks for the clarification.

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[lhgpoobaa]

OS type: doesnt matter, whatever goes
Mobo Type: depends on the maker. If in doubt, check the makers website for details as to what is supported with which mobo.

OK. Here goes. may be slightly wrong. feel free to correct.

Initial TBirds went from 650Mhz to 950Mhz, 100Mhz bus, 1.7 to 1.75v.
TBird B's are 1000, 1100, 1200, 1300, 1400, 100Mhz bus, 1.75v.
Tbird C's are 1000, 1133, 1200, 1333, 1400, 133Mhz bus 1.75v.
Palomino's are XP1500+ (1333), XP1600+ (1400), XP1700+ (1466), XP1800+ (1533), XP1900+ (1600), XP2000+ (1666), XP2100+ (1733), 133Mhz bus, 1.75v.
Tbred A's are XP1700+ (1466@1.5v), XP1800+ (1533@1.5v), XP1900+ (1600@1.5v), XP2000+ (1666@1.6v), XP2100+ (1733@1.65v), XP2200+ (1833@1.65v).
Tbred B's (133Mhz bus) are XP2400+ (2000@1.6v?), XP2600+ (2133@1.65v)
Tbred B's (166Mhz bus) are XP2600+ (2083@1.65v),
XP2700+ (2166@1.65v), XP2800+ (2250@1.65v)

Also due to be released soon are the Barton CPU's with an extra 256Kb of L2 cache at XP2500, 2700 and 3000+ speeds.


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[frewOFstew]

Just got back...but need to do some errands...just want to thank posters...would like to add to or ask more questions, in regards to this post, later when I have more time to read and ingest the replies.

 

[franker45]

The first T-bred was no more than a .13 micron version of the .18 micron Palomino, not a completely new core. In the "b" version, they rearranged some stuff and added new layers but that was it.