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veryweezy wrote:
> "Michael P Gabriel" <axipolti@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a20043.0404081541.f991548@posting.google.com...
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>>"veryweezy" <weez@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> news:<xuidnQEMB4IVAOjdRVn-jA@comcast.com>...
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>>>Dell's Net Income:
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>>>2004 $2,645,000,000
>>>2003 $2,122,000,000
>>>2002 $1,246,000,000
>>>2001 $2,177,000,000
>>>2000 $1,666,000,000
>>>
>>>Check out page 25 of 43:
>>>http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/corporate/sec/proxy03.pdf
>>>to see what the execs make and how many stock options they're given.
>>>
>>>
>>>Certainly doesn't look like Dell is going out of business! And the new
>>>Executive Annual Incentive Bonus Plan will I'm sure mean more U.S. Dell
>>>employees being axed so that the stock price is driven up in order for
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>>>Execs to maximize the value of their stock options.
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>>>I also like the statement in one of their SEC filings about them
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> possibly
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>>>paying less taxes if their operations shift overseas or to lower tax
>>>environments. All while around 70% of their sales is coming from the
>>>Americas. Corporate greed at its best.
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>>>>>>Spoken by a true blue socialist! Businesses exist to make jobs!
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>>Right? Whatabout the stockholders and the profit motive, prevalent in
>>every country; except, that is, except North Korea, North Vietnam,
>>Cuba and some remaining commie lovers in Russia. Big Bonuses....?
>>Corporate Greed? Sure, the government should run every business. How
>>great would that be? One gives his socialogic and political views
>>away without even realizing it. If I were you, I'd try to hide it! Oh,
>>and vote for GWB!! Forget your upbringing and think for yourself for a
>>change.
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> well, now that you've had your little breakdown do you feel better? good,
> now let's get some things straight. i am a capitalist and have even owned
> my own business. you seem to think (ill give you a little credit) there is
> nothing in between communism and a corporately run capitalist system. there
> is. it is called responsible capitalism. it involves treating your
> employees properly, respecting and protecting the environment, returning a
> fair return to investors. investors should not have the expectation that
> their investment will be used to the detriment of all else to fill their
> pockets. much of this runs against human nature for too many people and
> that is the sad part. it shouldn't be how high you can float your own boat
> at the expense of others (exec incentive plans). it should be able floating
> the boat that contains everybody that helps the company succeed (employees).
> and don't steal from your customers by substituting substandard support for
> competent support just so execs can pocket millions in bonuses.
This sounds like what was called "being a good corporate citizen" back
in the 70's. That went into the toilet when RR was elected and the
neo-cons got into power, leading to the "greed is good" mentality,
corporate raiders, raped pension plans, etc.